Applications crashes without any known reason

Hi there,

on my Netbook i run Opensuse 11.4, it works fine until a couple Days.
Since there more and more Apps wont start anymore.
For example Dolphin, Yast, Ocular and so on… so better say´d, only Thunderbird and Firefox still running.
I dont get any Error Messages or something like this, when i start a Application there just pop´s the Program Bar in the Start Menu and then after that (normally the Window of the Program would be shown) it just disappears.
Dumb on that is, that i even cant backup my Data, because Dolphin dont show up anymore.

Cant someone help please? It get´s kinda urgent for me

Thanks in Advance

Andy

Try to start any of the “broken” apps from the command line in a konsole window and report the error messages if any.

Dumb on that is, that i even cant backup my Data, because Dolphin dont show up anymore.

Dolphin is not the preferred backup tool. The command line is your friend. Try:

cp -a /path/to/source/* /path/to/destination/

This will recursively copy everything under the …/source/ directory to …/destination/

You may have to be root to do this, depending on the permissions of the stuff you want to copy. Be aware that this method is easy but not complete. It will omit hidden files. Even better is to use rsync (check the manual with ‘man rsync’).

Just an idea that I got reading your problem description. Are you sure none of your file systems is full? That would let crash almost any program.
use:

df -h

Anything above 94% full will kill you.

Sorry to answer that late……

well im a Terminal Noob (almost do anything with MacOSX)
But im astounded now, even the Terminal will start…… wow that seems heavy to me……

@hcvv :wink: no there is really enough place over (im using a 100GB Drive and maybe 4GB are in use)

What to do now? Is there a possibility to first backup data (i dont know even the Path, when i stick in my USB Drive) and afterwords is there something like in OSX to Repair the System (without new installation) )

Thanks in Advance and best wishes from Germany

That is not an answer to my question. But when you want toleave it at that, that is OK with me.

On 2011-07-13 10:36, Triggertrix wrote:
>
> Hi there,
>
> on my Netbook i run Opensuse 11.4, it works fine until a couple Days.

What did you change? Updates?

> Since there more and more Apps wont start anymore.

Try with a new user.


Cheers / Saludos,

Carlos E. R.
(from 11.4 x86_64 “Celadon” at Telcontar)

On 07/14/2011 09:06 PM, Triggertrix wrote:
>
> Thanks in Advance and best wishes from Germany

maybe you would have better luck in our forum for German speakers (not
that you are unwelcome here…you may use either or both):

go here http://forums.opensuse.org/ and scroll down to the section
“Deutsch (German)” and find links to

Hilfe und Helfen: Installation/Administration, Anwendungen, Desktop,
Hardware, Netzwerk

Community/Talk: Lob & Kritik, Ankündigungen und Neues, Allgemeines
Gequatsche


DD
Caveat-Hardware-Software
openSUSE®, the BMW® of operating systems!

uhm, i guess i dont get the point,

Are you sure none of your file systems is full?
That means to me that i dont have enough Harddisc Space, right? If taht means anything else, please let me know, im just a normal User and not that much in it, sorry.

The Command “df -h” i cant fire up, because my Terminal will not start… i dont know if there is any other option to do that, i just know Start Menu>Applications>Terminal or Alt+F2>Terminal>Enter

What did you change? Updates?

I really dont know, my Girlfriend was on it, surfed around with Firefox and told me afterwords that the hole Computer was freezed for a couple Sec´s, after she could not do anything to fix it, she do a warm Restart. After this the Problems are. Thats all i could figure out from here.
.

Try with a new user.

I cant, everything is crashing, just Thunderbird and Firefox are still running. (Wonder why, but im glad)

On 07/15/2011 09:36 AM, Triggertrix wrote:
>
> The Command “df -h” i cant fire up, because my Terminal will not
> start… i dont know if there is any other option to do that

boot, and at the first green screen (where you pick default or fail
safe) type the number 3 and hit enter

you will land at a full screen terminal with a log in prompt…log in as
yourself and then do


df -h

when you have seen the output (and copied it, if you need–you don’t if
none of the percent used is over 90%) then just do this:


su -
init 5

and, you should then get a GUI log in prompt…

or


sudo shutdown -h now

to shutdown…


DD
Caveat-Hardware-Software
openSUSE®, the BMW® of operating systems!

When I ask you to do* df -h* (and of course post the output here without altering anything and between CODE tags) and you are not able to do that, then please tell so, then we can help you to do this. When you only say “I have enough space”, then that is your conclusion, but I (and many of us) are not interested in your conclusion, but in facts (output by the computer) to give us a change to come to our own conclusion.

Thus when you are realy stuck like this then use DenverD’s method. But when it is that bad, I offer a somewhat different version of his path. When you have booted in runlevel 3 and thus see the login prompt, login directly as root (that is normaly NOT recommened, but in this case it might be the only thing possible) and do the

df -h

Explanation: when your root file system is up to 95% full, a normal user can not create any file anymore and thus almost every program started will fail. But the remaining 5% can be used by root. This 5% leeway is exactly for this case, such that root can still login and start some programs.

To save time (and posting), when the / file system is at 95%, clean /tmp by doing


cd /tmp
rm -rf *

BUT BE CAREFULL, te second statement will remove everything from the place you are, thus doublecheck if you are in /tmp!!!
Check with a new df -h if you fare better now. When not report back from this stage.
When better, then reboot (this is easier then doing the* init 5* where DenverD has a typo!):


shutdown -r now

Report back, when you /tmp was the culprit we ill give you a way to avoid this in the future.

On 07/15/2011 10:36 AM, hcvv wrote:
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> the- init 5- where DenverD has a typo!):

oops, if you would, when you find a chance, please remove the wrongly
typed d in what should have been “init”…thanks!


DD
Caveat-Hardware-Software
openSUSE®, the BMW® of operating systems!

On Fri, 15 Jul 2011 08:36:03 GMT, hcvv <hcvv@no-mx.forums.opensuse.org>
wrote:

>Explanation: when your root file system is up to 95% full, a normal
>user can not create any file anymore and thus almost every program
>started will fail. But the remaining 5% can be used by root. This 5%
>leeway is exactly for this case, such that root can still login and
>start some programs.
>
>To save time (and posting), when the / file system is at 95%, clean
>-/tmp- by doing
>
>Code:
>--------------------
>
> cd /tmp
> rm -rf *
>
>--------------------
>
>BUT BE CAREFULL, te second statement will remove everything from the
>place you are, thus doublecheck if you are in -/tmp-!!!

This is precisely i prefer using the guidance of:

As root (or from su - )
Code:

cd /
rm -rf /tmp/.
rm -rf /tmp/.*
rm -rf /tmp/*

instead.

In fact, for my own use, i prefer booting from a live disk, going root,
remounting RW and then doing the cleanup. But that is a bit more
complicated and requires a live disk to boot with.

>Check with a new df -h if you fare better now. When not report back
>from this stage.
>When better, then reboot (this is easier then doing the- init 5- where
>DenverD has a typo!):
>

What does rm -rf /tmp/* leave behind that one needs to use* rm -rf /tmp/. also?
What is the use of
cd / *when you use absolute pathes anyway?

On Mon, 18 Jul 2011 16:36:02 GMT, hcvv <hcvv@no-mx.forums.opensuse.org>
wrote:

>
>What does -rm -rf /tmp/- leave behind that one needs to use- rm -rf
>/tmp/
.* -also?

I wish i could remember the exact circumstances, but it only happened once
and the order may have been different.

>What is the use of- cd / -when you use absolute pathes anyway?

Good point. It is unnecessary.