I configured Apper to not alert me of new updates (both settings are set to Never) , I also disabled Apper in Service Manager.
That all worked fine for let’s say 48 hours, then it started again to check for updates.
I checked the settings and they are still on Never , in Service Manager it’s also uncheked.
Tried to enable it again and then turn it off, it didn’t help.
What am I missing ? How can I disable it ?
Deinstall it. I also deinstalled PackageManger (in fact I did not install them at system installation).
Or at least disable the “Software Updates” applet in the System Tray Settings (right-click on the small up-arrow just left of the clock to reach them, f.e.)
AFAIK, this will still check for updates on login, even when checking is disabled.
You mean packagekit ?
No, apper should suffice.
On KDE you should be able to uninstall PackageKit, but if you have GNOME installed as well you can’t. Some packages necessary for GNOME depend on it.
sudo zypper rm PackageKit
...
The following 23 packages are going to be REMOVED:
apper apper-lang gdm gdm-branding-openSUSE gdm-lang gnome-color-manager
gnome-color-manager-lang gnome-control-center gnome-control-center-lang
gnome-session gnome-session-default-session gnome-session-lang gnome-shell
gnome-shell-browser-plugin gnome-shell-lang
gnome-shell-search-provider-contacts gnome-shell-search-provider-nautilus
gnome-tweak-tool gnome-tweak-tool-lang PackageKit PackageKit-backend-zypp
PackageKit-branding-openSUSE PackageKit-lang
Sorry confusing you. Yes, that is what I mean. But when you like packagekit, you can keep it, it is Apper that annoys you, thus removing apper will be sufficient. That is when you also think like me that software that is not installed can not annoy you. 
Yes, people refuse to tell what they have. We do not even know what version of openSUSE he has. If it is openSUSE and not SLES/SLED (again a few today >:)).
Removing Apper did it, thanks 
It wasn’t confusing but there wasn’t packagemanger or packagemanager, the only thing I could think of was packagekit , I left it , for now
I’m on OpenSuse 13.1 x86-x64 , KDE
If you are using KDE (and I think you are), then what you are seeing is probably the software updater in the tray.
Right click on the tray, select “tray settings”. Then uncheck the box for software updater.
And for those who like the applet – in my opinion, it is best to turn off Apper in “Startup & Shutdown”, and rely on the try software updater.
Yeah I said it later, I’m using KDE , btw is Apper shipped with Gnome or other DE’s too ? I thought it was KDE exclusive.
Like I said, “Startup & Shutdown” doesn’t work.
Anyhow, I removed packagekit as well, no problems
I think Gnome uses a different, but more annoying applet – more annoying because it isn’t obvious how to turn it off.
GNOME has the update applet integrated in gnome-settings-daemon AFAIK, so you cannot even uninstall that.
And by default it even downloads the updates in the background without asking…
This is only configurable by using “dconf-editor”.
On 2014-04-11 00:06, nrickert wrote:
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> gzenum;2636258 Wrote:
>> btw is Apper shipped with Gnome or other DE’s too ?
>
> I think Gnome uses a different, but more annoying applet – more
> annoying because it isn’t obvious how to turn it off.
AND, the gnome applet also downloads the updates even if you close the
applet without choosing anything to update. That is, even if you refuse
to update anything, it downloads everything. Fortunately, it doesn’t
install them, just downloads them.
This can impact your network usage, and your disk storage, if the
proposed update is large…
The setting to configure this is not reachable on any config dialog. It
is hidden, and you need to know where, and how to access it, if you want
to change it.
–
Cheers / Saludos,
Carlos E. R.
(from 13.1 x86_64 “Bottle” at Telcontar)
Yes, I have run into that.
I occasionally boot to Gnome, to try things out. I usually do this as the test-user account that I setup for testing stuff.
When I see the notification that there are updates, I ignore them.
Later, while running KDE in my usual account, I do updates. And they go very fast, because apparently nothing has to be downloaded.
It’s not really a big deal here, though a minor annoyance.
I tried to change that using dconf-editor, but I could not work out which obscure setting I had to change.
This, of course, is why I don’t like Gnome 3. The attitude of the Gnome 3 developers seems to be “we know what’s best for you, and we are going to make it ****ed hard to do things differently from the way we think it should be done.” If I had wanted that kind of attitude, I would probably have been an Apple fan boy.
The setting is in org.gnome.settings-daemon.plugins.updates and is called “auto-download-updates”.
You can also disable the updates plugin completely there, or change the time intervals for checking for updates or refreshing the metadata cache.
Ah, so this unsolicited downloading of updates is a Gnome 3 issue, as I don’t see it with Evergreen’s Gnome 2 update applet which still works well. I was about to ask the question, but then saw your post.
On 2014-04-11 11:16, wolfi323 wrote:
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> nrickert;2636261 Wrote:
>> I think Gnome uses a different, but more annoying applet – more
>> annoying because it isn’t obvious how to turn it off.
> GNOME has the update applet integrated in gnome-settings-daemon AFAIK,
> so you cannot even uninstall that.
You can uninstall the applet. As I don’t have it installed, I can’t
check the name, but it is either pk-update-icon or gpk-update-icon.
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Cheers / Saludos,
Carlos E. R.
(from 13.1 x86_64 “Bottle” at Telcontar)
On 2014-04-11 16:16, consused wrote:
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> nrickert;2636355 Wrote:
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>> This, of course, is why I don’t like Gnome 3…
> Ah, so this unsolicited downloading of updates is a Gnome 3 issue, as I
> don’t see it with Evergreen’s Gnome 2 update applet which still works
> well. I was about to ask the question, but then saw your post.
I don’t use Gnome 3, but I use XFCE and it uses the same package kit
applet… so it is affected.
There is a visible setting to disable auto-check while on mobile network
- fine, but… on my setup it does not detect my current mobile network,
as I do it using my android phone as a WiFi er… how is it called…
hot spot?
So it is better to remove the thing completely.
–
Cheers / Saludos,
Carlos E. R.
(from 13.1 x86_64 “Bottle” at Telcontar)
Thanks. I’ll check that when I next login to Gnome. Or maybe I’ll go with Carlos and uninstall the applet.
I seem to recall an XFCE setting, to not run the updater. But I don’t login to XFCE often enough to know if that works.