Another hardware question - What would you use ?

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I have the QW 8600 workstation but I also have an ML30 Gen 9 , The ML 30 only has 8Gb Ram (its sooo ********** expensive) and a single cpu, built in graphics - What would folks use given the choice ?

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Hi
The ML 30 for sure… faster ram :wink: It just takes standard DDR4 RAM, should be able to shop around?

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DDR4 PC-2133 UDIMM = mega expensive :frowning:

8Gb should be enough for now ? (I can keep a lookout for deals that may crop up)

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What do you call “mega expensive”

I think waiting will (in the sort term) not give you cheaper modules:

https://www.pcgamer.com/ddr4-memory-is-becoming-more-expensive-ahead-of-the-ddr5-era/

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1 x 4Gb = UKP 40 +

The prices vary wildly unfortunately but appreciate that this is a sign of the times.

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Hi
Check out ebay?

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  • Memory Up to 128 GB DDR2-667 ECC; 8 DIMM slots …
  • Memory DDR4 Unbuffered (UDIMM); DIMM Slots Available 4 – Maximum Capacity (UDIMM) 64GB(4 x 16GB UDIMM @2133MHz) – ECC …

First up – DDR2 is currently not so common – one of my local suppliers offers it; the other doesn’t …

  • 4 GB DDR2-RAM ECC 667 MHz – 135 € …

DDR4 ECC RAM gives you “better value for your money” …

  • 16 GB – 1 x 16 GB DDR4-RAM ECC 2133 MHz – 135 €

If the motherboard allows the use of non-ECC memory then, you’ll be able to purchase at a lower price but, for the best price advantage the motherboard will have to support “under clocking” – 3000 MHz / 3200 MHz RAM currently tends to be cheaper than 2133 MHz RAM – about 90 € / 100 € for 16 GB …

  • For example – 3200 MHz RAM running at 2133 MT/s (Mega Transfers per second) «effective MHz» –

 # inxi --admin --memory
Memory:    RAM: total: 13.57 GiB used: 3.81 GiB (28.1%) 
           Array-1: capacity: 128 GiB slots: 4 EC: None max module size: 32 GiB note: est. 
           Device-1: DIMM_A1 size: No Module Installed 
           Device-2: DIMM_A2 size: 8 GiB speed: 2133 MT/s type: DDR4 detail: synchronous unbuffered (unregistered) 
           bus width: 64 bits total: 64 bits manufacturer: G-Skill part-no: F4-3200C16-8GIS serial: N/A 
           Device-3: DIMM_B1 size: No Module Installed 
           Device-4: DIMM_B2 size: 8 GiB speed: 2133 MT/s type: DDR4 detail: synchronous unbuffered (unregistered) 
           bus width: 64 bits total: 64 bits manufacturer: G-Skill part-no: F4-3200C16-8GIS serial: N/A 
 #

Yes, the DIMM A2 / B2 slots are correct – the 3rd and 4th modules have to be inserted in the A4 / B1 slots – at least for the mainboard I’m using …

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**@GOKIWI:
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Further to Memory ECC –

Bottom line for non-critical server systems – Memory ECC – especially the implementation in the Mainboards and CPUs – may well be not really worth the effort – AFAICS …:wink:

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Hi
All good here at the moment…


inxi --admin --memory -z
Memory:    RAM: total: 31.26 GiB used: 3.38 GiB (10.8%) 
           Array-1: capacity: 512 GiB note: check slots: 8 EC: Multi-bit ECC max-module-size: 64 GiB note: est. 
           Device-1: CPU0-DIMM1 size: 8 GiB speed: 2133 MT/s type: DDR4 detail: synchronous registered (buffered) 
           bus-width: 64 bits total: 72 bits manufacturer: Samsung part-no: M393A1G40EB1-CPB serial: <filter> 
           Device-2: CPU0-DIMM2 size: No Module Installed 
           Device-3: CPU0-DIMM3 size: 8 GiB speed: 2133 MT/s type: DDR4 detail: synchronous registered (buffered) 
           bus-width: 64 bits total: 72 bits manufacturer: Samsung part-no: M393A1G40EB1-CPB serial: <filter> 
           Device-4: CPU0-DIMM4 size: No Module Installed 
           Device-5: CPU0-DIMM5 size: No Module Installed 
           Device-6: CPU0-DIMM6 size: 8 GiB speed: 2133 MT/s type: DDR4 detail: synchronous registered (buffered) 
           bus-width: 64 bits total: 72 bits manufacturer: Samsung part-no: M393A1G40EB1-CPB serial: <filter> 
           Device-7: CPU0-DIMM7 size: No Module Installed 
           Device-8: CPU0-DIMM8 size: 8 GiB speed: 2133 MT/s type: DDR4 detail: synchronous registered (buffered) 
           bus-width: 64 bits total: 72 bits manufacturer: Samsung part-no: M393A1G40EB1-CPB serial: <filter>
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Am now confused as to what I want to do :frowning:

I have the XW8600 with 32Gb ram, dual xeon’s , fx 4800 graphics card and 4 x 500Gb disks and I have the ML 30 with 8 Gb ram , single xeon , radeon R7 250 graphics card, 4 x 500Gb and 2 x NVMe 256 Gb .

I think I might scrap the XW and save for some more ram for the ML, I need something with a lot of storage capability as I have around 250Gb of data that needs backing up but also want something I can learn on and use daily.

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Hi
Offload the XW8600 to purchase ML30 RAM and bigger disks?

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Street (local businesses) price here for a 3½" internal HDD begin at about 40 € – smallest available: 1 TB.A suitable (metal) Case with USB 3.0 starts at less than 20 €.

Buy 2 or 3 of the things – throw a single XFS partition on each of them – mount to a sub-directory below /mnt/ – write a script which calls “rsync” – safe backup of XXX terabytes for systems @home done …

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eSATA (External SATA) is much better than USB 3.0 - if you can find such case.

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Hi All,

Thanks for all the replies - I have now decided to use the ML30 , I have now increased the ram to 16 Gb, found an RX550 graphics card and at work we were scrapping some old servers so managed to get 5 x 1.0Tb SATA drives and 4 x 2.0Tb SATA drives and more by fluke (okay absolute luck) I found 2 x 256Gb NVMe.2 SSD’s .

I have now got a beast that flies , The XW is sitting rather forlorn in the corner and the Samsung T.V is now a T.V as I’m using a monitor from work.

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Hi
Good deal :slight_smile: I have a RX550 works great…