Am I the only one who can’t use GIMP or Krita because they do things in
completely unlogical way, becuse they are so user-unfriendly?
OMG, why can’t someone make clone of Photoshop?! At least some version
from 10 years ago, like v 5.5 or something? Just clone… without
inventing the hot water, just clone it?
For me it is absolutely impossible to use this applications. For
someone who used photoshop a lot in the past, everything looks upside
down.
beli0135;1904263 Wrote:
> Am I the only one who can’t use GIMP or Krita because they do things in
> completely unlogical way, becuse they are so user-unfriendly?
>
> OMG, why can’t someone make clone of Photoshop?! At least some version
> from 10 years ago, like v 5.5 or something? Just clone… without
> inventing the hot water, just clone it?
>
> For me it is absolutely impossible to use this applications. For
> someone who used photoshop a lot in the past, everything looks upside
> down.
>
> Am I the only one?
It does work. though it is not as powerful as photoshop. The impression
that it is not friendly is not too acceptable. It is by the user who
uses the app.
If you start working in gimp and think it as gimp not photoshop and
disregard
all photoshop thinking while using it you will be able to start
adopting to this new gimp environment. This is speaking through
experience. Before I was used to making architectural 3d in acad and
when I tried sketchup I found it hard at first because I always think of
using the acad commands.
Just my sincere 2-cents
– People who do not break things first will never learn to create
anything
Yes, I know this. It was the same when I passed from Win to Suse…
however, it is DIFFICULT. To make some simple operations like pasting to
layer from clipboard, creates some “floating” layer which I cant do much
unless I make 20 clicks over the menu… I mean, spending 2 hours just
trying to make a “tab” look like in Flock…
Some things are driving me crazy… if I make selection, shouldn’t one
click on image deselect it? It is like this in all graphics applications
made on this planet, except in GIMP…
In my opinon, GIMP should serve as an example HOW NOT to make program.
It is powerful, but that is no use if you need to forget everything you
knew before, and learn how to use same tools on different way.
Looks like if you design a hammer that can strike the nail only
upwards.
Hi
As a novice GIMP user (Had to make a photo mosaic for the desktop). If
I cut and paste a photo as a layer and then give the layer a name
then all is calm in gimp land. You can then click on the layer and
do anything you want to it.
Maybe they could make a Xmas video how the gimp stole photoshop?
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> Yes, I know this. It was the same when I passed from Win to Suse…
> however, it is DIFFICULT. To make some simple operations like pasting to
> layer from clipboard, creates some “floating” layer which I cant do much
> unless I make 20 clicks over the menu… I mean, spending 2 hours just
> trying to make a “tab” look like in Flock…
Not sure what you want to do with the layer, but I usually use the merge
down. You could always open a new window and edit what you want the layer
to look like and then copy it into the other project as a new layer, then
merge the two. It’s not that hard, just different.
I never used Photoshop before, and now after 1.5 years webdesiging I see
that Gimp is a great tool.
User-unfriendly? I don’t think so, it was a completely new application
for me, the GUI the Effects, Layers, everything.
Do not blame this application, read some ‘tutorials’
(http://www.gimp.org/tutorials/).
beli0135;1904268 Wrote:
>
> In my opinon, GIMP should serve as an example HOW NOT to make program.
Yes, this is true. The reason is that Gimp, in my opinion, never went
through the hands of critically-minded developer, who would improve the
user interface.
In fact, there were no significant developments in user interface since
years. There was some additional package to improve the interface, but I
don’t know what happened to it.
Somebody needs to listen to the voice of unhappy users, and improve the
interface. The ignorance of this side, embedded in the application by
authors, was never corrected.
beli0135;1904263 Wrote:
> Am I the only one who can’t use GIMP or Krita because they do things in
> completely unlogical way, becuse they are so user-unfriendly?
>
> OMG, why can’t someone make clone of Photoshop?!
Did you try gimpshop (a gimp interface clone of photoshop, and a fork
of gimp) ?
‘PackMan :: Package details for gimpshop’
(http://packman.links2linux.org/package/gimpshop)
I prefer gimp myself but you may find gimpshop is a friendly transition
into gimp from photoshop.
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Thanks, oldcpu, I didn’t know about that. I will see if this improves my
handling.
The way GIMP is, for me it is simply wrong. I agree with malcolmlewis,
he never used photoshop and learned gimp. But I used photoshop and a lot
of other apps in late 90-ties. All of them have the same way of doing
things. I find Gimp and Krita doing it other way around… No necessary.
They are good programs, just to change interface.
beli0135;1904321 Wrote:
> I didn’t know about that. I will see if this improves my handling.
In case you did not google on this, there is a good description on the
gimpshop home page:
‘GIMPshop.com - A GIMP hack by Scott Moschella’
(http://www.gimpshop.com/)
Again, I now like the gimp interface, and find the photoshop counter
intutive. But I’m not an advanced user, a lot boils down to what one is
used to.
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well, Gimpshop, on the image, has menus similar to photoshop, though
shortcuts are not the same. Most of the things are done gimp way, but
ultimately, far more friendly then standard gimp.
Hmm… I think I will have to investigate. There must be some
software… or run photoshop from WINE
Remember, if you do not like GIMP the way it is you are FREE to fork it and make
it exactly the way YOU want it–try that with Photoshop.
Free and open are a big words. (It can even be used to say: If you do not like
the open framework of GIMP you are free to use Photoshop…but, you have to PAY
to use it.)
beli0135;1904268 Wrote:
>
> Looks like if you design a hammer that can strike the nail only
> upwards.
Thats exactly what photoshop and other proprietary programs are,
hammers that can only be swung one way. One Way and one way only.
The Gimp on the other hand being open source can be swung up, down,
sideways…
Really sucks when those proprietary application/software companies
achieve their goal of locking you into “one way” of doing things to the
point that you will never conceive that their are other and better ways
to do things.
For instance why can’t photoshop be changed to behave like other
applications, because I don’t like the photoshop way of doing things.
The Gimp on the other hand can be made into whatever you want if you
wish to change it. For instance gimpshop. ‘PackMan :: Package details
for gimpshop’ (http://packman.links2linux.org/package/gimpshop)
Biased Observer;1904570 Wrote:
> Read “Linux is not Windows” <http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm> and
> think
> about where you are (and how much you PAY to be here).
First… this thread has nothing to do with Windows vs Linux. It’s a
question into the UI of the Gimp, and Photoshop happens to be a
comparison. Just because it happens to be a windows app, does not
warrant the knee-jerk Windows-Vs-*nix debate.
> Remember, if you do not like GIMP the way it is you are FREE to fork it
> and make
> it exactly the way YOU want it–try that with Photoshop.
>
You hear this misguided line of thinking thrown around a lot. It’s
probably the least meaningful argument you can use. Not every person is
a developer, whereas the majority are simply the end-users. Telling
the typical user “Go write your own” is just plain dumb.
Many many projects do well because they design based on the end-user’s
needs. And many more fail because they don’t.
> Free and open are a big words. (It can even be used to say: If you do
> not like
> the open framework of GIMP you are free to use Photoshop…but, you
> have to PAY
> to use it.)
Just because a project is free and open does not necessarily mean the
project devs can’t listen to requests from their userbase. The Gimp UI
debate has been loud for quite some time. And it’s only happened
recently that the Gimp team has finally come to accept that perhaps
their UI isn’t all that intuitive or easy to use, and has actually taken
steps to form a team devoted exclusively to redesigning the UI.
My intention was not to create flame, I am sorry if there are some
people that look on the topic like that.
Simply, I thought I was out of the picture, but I am, fortunately,
not.
Well, as I said, I will try to find some alternatives. If someone
remembers one, please post
