alternative to SJW Linux?

Was reading how Linus has fallen & SJWs have captured the Linux Kernel. What alternatives are out there?

Linus has decided to take a break. As far as I know, most of the kernel developer team is still intact.

I don’t think you need to look for an alternative. But I guess Windows still exists for people who don’t like linux.

I hope hes ok. I’m just preparing. I’d like to see a merit-fork

I have no idea what you have been reading and on which platforum, but no way a group is capturing the kernel. Yes, Linus is taking a break. And? The man has been working enough hours in his life that retirement would be acceptable :). And I certainly do not see the a fork of the linux kernel happening. Tens of thouseands of developers, often company paid, all the involved hardware and software companies… Nah.

As I commented, at another site, Linus has reached a stage of his life where diplomatic skills are as important as technical skills. So he is taking a break to work on those diplomatic skills.

I think it’s a good move. I have no concerns that this will affect the future of linux.

On Wed, 10 Oct 2018 22:26:03 +0000, nrickert wrote:

> As I commented, at another site, Linus has reached a stage of his life
> where diplomatic skills are as important as technical skills. So he is
> taking a break to work on those diplomatic skills.
>
> I think it’s a good move. I have no concerns that this will affect the
> future of linux.

Agreed.


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it already has.

I agree it already affected Linux but in my opinion in a positive way :slight_smile: For alternatives I guess there is no better way for free os than some BSD variant. No idea which one is best cause I only tried FreeNAS. I’m personally staying with Linux as the future looks only brighter.

I’ve been looking at FreeBSD myself as an alternative to Linux in case the ultra-leftist “You can’t say bad words!” -people aren’t kicked out or then the alternative is the sane people fork the Linux kernel.

I hope you are right :slight_smile:

Seems that these things, diabolically, are used to persecute and intimidate members of a community, even as they ‘protect’ some others. I’m checking out BSD though.

Really? Do you know of anyone that was prosecuted as a result of Linux implementing code of conduct?

Writing as someone who strongly supports democracy, is averse to anarchy and, has a strong belief that, a strong and effective democracy should neither support nor allow monopolies, I have the following current issue with respect to computing:

  1. Commercial computing began with a monopoly: IBM.
  2. OK, after a while there was a little bit of main-frame competition – such as Elliott, English Electric, ICL, Amdahl – mostly all defunct …
  3. Then, along came the Mini-Computer “revolution” with a plethora of operating systems and system architectures: Data General, DEC, Wang, Nixdorf, Fujitsu …
  4. Then, there was “small computer” (inventor) market: Radio Shack, Commodore PET, BBC Micro, Apple …
  5. Then, IBM announced the “Personal Computer”.
  6. For a while there was a little bit of PC operating system competition – DR-DOS and MS-DOS – but, no hardware architecture competition.
  7. With the increased interest in GUI, a little bit of PC OS competition arose: IBM OS/2 versus Microsoft Windows …
  8. Parallel to all this, there is UNIX® …

Looking at the current computing world, there’s basically, AFAICS, 3 major players:

  1. IBM, still, even if their main-frame operating systems are currently, mostly, UNIX® …
  2. Microsoft …
  3. UNIX® – including, Apple, BSD, Linux, Android, Sun, Raspberry Pi, Fujitsu …

We shouldn’t forget, that as fas as embedded systems are concerned, there is a plethora of embedded real-time operating systems, but, unfortunately, a large number are influenced by UNIX® …
[HR][/HR]The democratic issue that I have is, AFAICS within the current computing world there isn’t any “real” competition …

And, if we look at programming languages, most of the current bunch is C/C++ based (including script languages such as Perl & Co. … ) – languages such as Fortran, COBOL, and Pascal have almost disappeared into history – which leaves yet another monopoly (YAM) …
[HR][/HR]Bottom line, computing, currently, is suffering from a lack of “real” competition and, from a democratic view point, that stinks …

How do you put Sun on the list here when it’s long time dead? :slight_smile: If anything it should be Oracle but I don’t think they play a major role in Unix progress.

According to the Oracle SPARC Solaris Roadmap, Solaris 11.4 is current and development at least up to 2022 is indicated …

Yes Solaris definately seems to be alive but Sun is definately not.

Acording to wikipedia Sun was defunct in January 2010
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sun_Microsystems

It’s now part of Oracle …

To be precise: No, it’s ceased to exist as Sun, but - at the completion of the sale to Oracle - a huge part was renamed/rebranded to Oracle America Inc, the rest integrated in Oracle divisions / daughter companies. A good friend was involved and quit Sun at the time he began to see what was going to happen.

But, this is going off-topic. Incl. me :).

And, to close the thread : https://www.zdnet.com/article/linus-torvalds-is-back-in-charge-of-linux/