Alienware M17 with SSD cannot install with Windows dual boot system goes to Win 7

I have tried every-way to install on my complicated system with this:

Win 7 Program C: SSD
DVD D:
Vista Program E: HD
Vista Data F: HD
Win 7 Data G: SSD

Install just works never shows anything then boots to windows dual boot scree and I usually boot c: Win 7

Suggestions I’m getting old and tired had Suse 9.1 Professional and it installed years ago. :’(

Ok you say it installs but does not boot to openSUSE right??

Are you installing/booting in EFI mode or legacy? With Win 7 and Vista I assume you use legacy mode so Install in legacy mode. All must be installed and booted in the same mode or they won’t see each other.

BTW wee need the true partition layout not obscuring Windows drive letters

[QUOTE=gogalthorp;2777375]Ok you say it installs but does not boot to openSUSE right??

I thought about my term there it just thrashes ( acts like it is working,) drive light on DVD off on on

Are you installing/booting in EFI mode or legacy? With Win 7 and Vista I assume you use legacy mode so Install in legacy mode. All must be installed and booted in the same mode or they won’t see each other.

Don’t quite understand EFI and Legacy how and what do I do. Do I do something from Windows? I am just FIRST and only trying to get screen off CD to load such install screen goes to Windows dual boot screen, instead.

BTW we need the true partition layout not obscuring Windows drive letters

**Don’t get what you mean there either, C: and G: are boot and partition of SSD 500 Gig. E: and F: are partitions of Vista hard drive 250 Gig

THANKS for the help. Getting tired of Windows game and decided to tackle Linix again… being I knew it was off Unix I keep wanting to call it LinUX. BTW am I being helped by a REAR Flux Capacitor Penguin, I am 65 year old out of date my major was EE came back to farm. Been online since 300 baud and terminal mode so…I know just enough to hurt myself …changes to fast. Hopefully I got the correct distro took me all day and 1/2 my monthly data max to get it, do NOT have any Linix installed at all or partitions figured boot disk would do all that, at least it did in 9.1.**

OK Window’s wrong terminology first. Windows calls partition on the disk drive drives and assigns letters to them but that tells us almost nothing, only the number of partitions. This is bad terminology and leads to confusion. This is a holdover from the old CPM/DOS days when there was only one partition on a drive

So did you resize and possibly move the Windows partitions to allow free space to install into?

Do you pay attention and understand each and every install screen. Don’t just press OK unless you understand the consequences. If unsure ask here before proceeding

At what point does this " thrashing " happen? It maybe trying to resize things to give itself space to install. But that is uncertain at this time since we can not look over your shoulder. Stopping a complex operation like resizing may damage the partition it is resizing.

Since it would appear that you use the older DOS partitioning setup rather then the newer GPT you can have at most 4 primary partitions but one can be what is called an extended partition and you may place logical partitions. And this is why we need more then just drive letters. We need to see what is in the extended and how much free space is available for the install

Since Vista is no longer supported by MS is there a reason to keep it? Or do you just want to collect OS’s

OK Window’s wrong terminology first. Windows calls partition on the disk drive drives and assigns letters to them but that tells us almost nothing, only the number of partitions. This is bad terminology and leads to confusion. This is a holdover from the old CPM/DOS days when there was only one partition on a drive

You didn’t answer ANY of MY questions where I could help you but only criticized me. I am not trying to be combative I appreciate the help. You never answered is this the correct distro I think it is what is Tumblewheed 64?

I thought I explained it well… was going to post a snapshot of all of drive. I have NO idea why you call it bad terminology just different it IS STILL correct

So did you resize and possibly move the Windows partitions to allow free space to install into?

I am having trouble putting a Linix partition on a Windows drive.

Do you pay attention and understand each and every install screen. Don’t just press OK unless you understand the consequences. If unsure ask here before proceeding

**I’ve told you FORM THE BEGINNING there is NO install SCREEN about SUSe Linix at all. Zipz zap NOTHING. Newbie a misnomer for me, if I can get to a Suse install screen instead of it automatically booting to windows I’ll be FINE. I just need some guidance been doing this for 25+ years previously had Linix installed on another machine.

On this forum can you tell me how I can change the setup to post files I’ve tried to look for more permissions can’t find it anywhere, in profile or Settings. Thanks.
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At what point does this " thrashing " happen? It maybe trying to resize things to give itself space to install. But that is uncertain at this time since we can not look over your shoulder. Stopping a complex operation like resizing may damage the partition it is resizing.

THe DVD install drive is thrashing it is NOT re-sizing the SSD where I want to install.

Since it would appear that you use the older DOS partitioning setup rather then the newer GPT you can have at most 4 primary partitions but one can be what is called an extended partition and you may place logical partitions. And this is why we need more then just drive letters. We need to see what is in the extended and how much free space is available for the install

No they are NOT they are all primary and all NTFS NO extended…

Since Vista is no longer supported by MS is there a reason to keep it? Or do you just want to collect OS’s
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Really is this necessary I am a VERY busy person and this no longer is my primary job… I had data on it and haven’t had time I know it is older etc. that is why I rarly boot to it. Yes I like collecting OS’s…**

OK Window’s wrong terminology first. Windows calls partition on the disk drive drives and assigns letters to them but that tells us almost nothing, only the number of partitions. This is bad terminology and leads to confusion. This is a holdover from the old CPM/DOS days when there was only one partition on a drive

You didn’t answer ANY of MY questions where I could help you but only criticized me. I am not trying to be combative I appreciate the help. You never answered is this the correct distro I think it is. What is Tumbleweed 64? All I am trying to do is to boot from the D: DVD drive with a burned ISO on it, maybe I have errors on it and burned it at too fast of speed. Also maybe I posted this to the wrong forum or topic. Typical geek speak difference in terminology.

I thought I explained it well… was going to post a snapshot of all of drive. I have NO idea why you call it bad terminology just different it IS STILL correct.

So did you resize and possibly move the Windows partitions to allow free space to install into?

I am having trouble putting a Linix partition on a Windows drive.

Do you pay attention and understand each and every install screen. Don’t just press OK unless you understand the consequences. If unsure ask here before proceeding

**I’ve told you FORM THE BEGINNING there is NO install SCREEN about SUSe Linix at all. Zip zap NOTHING. Newbie a misnomer for me, if I can get to a Suse install screen instead of it automatically booting to windows I’ll be FINE. I just need some guidance been doing this for 25+ years previously had Linix installed on another machine.

On this forum can you tell me how I can change the setup to post files I’ve tried to look for more permissions can’t find it anywhere, in profile or Settings. Thanks.
**
At what point does this " thrashing " happen? It maybe trying to resize things to give itself space to install. But that is uncertain at this time since we can not look over your shoulder. Stopping a complex operation like resizing may damage the partition it is resizing.

THe DVD install drive is thrashing it is NOT re-sizing the SSD where I want to install.

Since it would appear that you use the older DOS partitioning setup rather then the newer GPT you can have at most 4 primary partitions but one can be what is called an extended partition and you may place logical partitions. And this is why we need more then just drive letters. We need to see what is in the extended and how much free space is available for the install

No, they are NOT DOS they are all primary and all NTFS and NO extended…

Since Vista is no longer supported by MS is there a reason to keep it? Or do you just want to collect OS’s
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Really is this necessary I am a VERY busy person and this no longer is my primary job… I had data on it and haven’t had time I know it is older etc. that is why I rarely boot to it. Yes I like collecting OS’s…:wink:
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This is a complicated forum no edit posted, delete etc. how do I contact the admin to give me more privileges like attaching a file, is the thread the top “initial post” and posts are subs of that thread I was going to add an attachment but said I had to start new thread?

A partition is not a drive even if Windows calls it that. In Linux we work with partitions NOT drives. Using the wrong words make it difficult to help and we have to guess.

You should have FREE space to install the new OS. It has to have unformatted continues free space to put it’s partitions. So have you provide the free space if so how much? And on which hard drive?

If all primary do you have 4 partition. That is the max number of primary partitions allowed on a DOS partitioned drive?? If you want more then 4 one must be an extended. Note Windows often hides partitions from you in it’s “drive” management program so use another program if you really want to know what’s on the drive.

Note that any time you fool around with partitions in any way you should have a backup of your important data.

Since you appear to use a DVD to install

  1. did you check the checksums of the iso image? Your burn software should have the option.
  2. did you burn the DVD as an ISO not just copy the ISO file to the DVD? If you used the Windows internal to copy the ISO I don’t think it supports a ISO image burn. It simply copies the file which will not work.
  3. are you sure the BIOS is set to boot to the DVD?

I have AMOI Windows partition software I [HR][/HR]
I downloaded the ISO with BitTorrent with SHA hashcheck

  1. did you burn the DVD as an ISO not just copy the ISO file to the DVD? If you used the Windows internal to copy the ISO I don’t think it supports a ISO image burn. It simply copies the file which will not work.
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    I downloded the freeware SUSE recommended and burned it the way they said to I had it on max it may be I should not burn it that fast**

  2. are you sure the BIOS is set to boot to the DVD?[/QUOTE]

Of course I am… Thanks

It sounds like you did not burn with the right options. You must use the ISO image burn not just copy. What burn software do you use?

To SamSpade,

I read over this just out of curiosity.  Please do not get upset with  		gogalthorp, he is very knowledgeable and has helped me a lot.  I to am old, almost 70 and I have worked in this industry for over 30 years.  However, I do NOT know everything.  No one is trying to belittle you or question your knowledge.  The terminology and concepts and thoughts between the two OS's are slightly different.  Therefore, in order to help the GuRu's on here need to get as much info as possible.

They have helped me set up two HP i7’s with openSuSE 13.2 and Windows 8 on one, with Windows 10 on the other. Prior to that we got Windows XP and openSuSE 12.3. At this time … again with info from these fine people I have 4 PC systems all Networked together and talking to one another. The gentleman you are dealing with at this time was one of the main ones that helped me.

Please don’t take offence and don’t get angry… we, they are trying to help -but- it is rather a big task to help trouble shoot a System that you can not see.

Thanks,
-Chuck