Airplane - cheap gets expensive

Hi,
i just recently ordered my ticket to fly to germany and wow, there are so many upgrades now that my once cheap ticket got more expensive.
Normally i sit in the last row. Just me, but i like to be as far away from the crowed as i can and in the back you have not many people sitting with you.
This time there was no free seat anymore and before booking in the middle of a row, i made the decision to sit on the door. That cost a hundred mulas more. Not sure, at least i can’t remember, but i thought it was economy before. Now its called economy plus. So now we are really in 3 classes in a plane.
This will be the first time too, that i stop in London. Wow this is exciting. London… So sad, i never made it to the UK to make a vacation there.
I just hope my baggage doesn’t get lost.
Which brings me to my question. I plan to take 3 bottle of beer with me, but i am not sure if they survive, even if they are in a protective tube, the flight.
Did anyone of you carried something fluid in you baggage? In the cargo of course.
I want to bring my dad the taste of good american beer :slight_smile:

Properly packed, there should be no problems. I have a few friends that routinely bring wine from France or Chile without issues.

Just note that it will be chilled in a non conditioned cargo bay, but with regards to beer that won’t be a problem. :slight_smile:

On 02/13/2011 10:06 PM, JoergJaeger wrote:
>
> I want to bring my dad the taste of good american beer :slight_smile:

taking american beer to germany may be against the law :wink: but
wrapped in bubble wrap and taped, it will be fine in cargo…

may i please ask what brand(s) of beer you will bring your dad?


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It will be Samuel Adams. One i like and may be acceptable to my dad :slight_smile:
I don’t think you get it there, so my plan was to take some as a demo with me. I already seen some of the Styrofoam rappers in the store, just need to fine bigger bottles.

You want to bring American beer… to Germany… as a present. That is quite interesting. How long haven’t you been in Germany? :slight_smile:

Anyway, you may save yourself the hassle, as this specific brand is available in Germany via mailorder, see (for example) →here.

Prost!

On 02/14/2011 05:06 AM, JoergJaeger wrote:
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> It will be Samuel Adams.

i’ve never taste tested one of those, and it might be fun to bring to
dad…but, you may find it on the shelf of the grocery nearest
him…i don’t know…

in denmark we have had a variety of beers from all over on grocery
shelves for about four or five years…


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You better call the airlines or TSA I don’t think they allow you to carry on liquids. I’d try packing them in your checked luggage, water proofed in case the temp or pressure changes cracks a bottle.
The airlines will hit you with an extra for reserving, changing, extra carry on, etc. Every other business is charging fees for almost any service. Use to be you got a discount for online ticketing but some airlines tacked on a fee, so you pay when using an airline ticket agent on a phone or you pay for self ticketing online.

That is an alternative… Mm… i only stay a week and this is in Koeln where i am in Frankfurt.
Maybe i just check on the airport.

Its true that it can be a hassle. Flights used to be so easy and, i don’t fly that often really. So everytime i do, something changed from the previous experience.
The main reason why i want to take it with me is more to show that you get a little more in the US of A than a budwiser or coors.

Anyway, thanks for the link. Might be useful. :slight_smile:

(minor adjustment for good taste)

On 02/14/2011 10:36 PM, JoergJaeger wrote:
> a budwiser or coors.

ah, yes you name the two most prominent beer-like bitter fizzy pops
assembly line manufactured (excuse me) ‘brewed’ in the The Land Of…

if you ever get to Texas, give Shiner a try… http://www.shiner.com/
its made in Texas by German-Texans, for all Texans…i’ve never seen
it outside of the state (unless someone carried it out)

Sam Adams, i don’t know…it may also be good…
fly safe yester :slight_smile:

by the way, you said you like to sit at the back, me too because if i
can’t be in control i wanna be back at that part which is always NOT
the first part to hit the mountain! (also, you get to watch the stews
more)


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On Mon, 14 Feb 2011 22:25:18 +0000, DenverD wrote:

> Sam Adams, i don’t know…it may also be good…

Sam Adams is good, American Bud, Coors, Schlitz, and Miller don’t really
count as beer IMHO.

Sam Adams is a mass-marketed microbrew (I think) - I do prefer microbrews
myself, actually, Utah’s got some pretty good microbreweries at that.
Squatters’ IPA, for example, has won top honours at the British Beer
Festival in the past (possibly multiple years running).

Always fun to hear of my British friends going to the BBF and having
something made in Utah. :slight_smile:

Jim


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Couldn’t you just take a European beer and dilute it with water? lol!

Ah, Sam Adams is good, that’s ok then. :slight_smile:

On Tue, 15 Feb 2011 01:36:01 +0000, ken yap wrote:

> Couldn’t you just take a European beer and dilute it with water? lol!

Well, for American Bud, Coors, etc, there’s another description I’m fond
of, but it’s not suitable for this forum. :wink:

> Ah, Sam Adams is good, that’s ok then. :slight_smile:

Yes, that is a good one, absolutely.

Though I have to say the brew pub they operate at Boston Logan Airport
wasn’t a good experience when I visited there some years ago - took
forever to get service, and I was there for 6 hours…(Well, that
wasn’t their fault, that was because I missed the 10 AM-ish flight and
had to wait for the 6 PM-ish flight back to SLC, and I’d already turned
in the rental car.

Jim

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I think Monty Python used that joke.

On Tue, 15 Feb 2011 03:36:02 +0000, ken yap wrote:

> hendersj;2290159 Wrote:
>> > Couldn’t you just take a European beer and dilute it with water? lol!
>>
>> Well, for American Bud, Coors, etc, there’s another description I’m
>> fond
>> of, but it’s not suitable for this forum. :wink:
>
> I think Monty Python used that joke.

It wouldn’t surprise me. :wink:

Jim


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Beer should be ok, as at worst it will freeze, and then thaw out. But it really depends on the type of fluid.

I recall before I was married and I brought my girlfriend (now my wife) to Canada for the first time, and she packaged “Thai Fish sauce” in her luggage (as she really really likes it as a food ingredient). I wish she had told me (as I would have told her not to pack it). Well, this bottle was NOT packaged for Canadian weather, and the freezing cold Canadian temperatures in the aircraft’s luggage compartment cracked the bottle, and she had fish sauce all over her packed clothes, her luggage … What a lovely smell (NOT) rotfl!

Now I see the post.
In my opinion the best airline company is olympiac airline(Ολυμπιακές Αερογραμμές). It is expencive but perfect.;):slight_smile:

On 02/15/2011 12:15 AM, Jim Henderson wrote:
> American Bud, Coors, Schlitz, and Miller don’t really
> count as beer IMHO.

we absolutely agree on that!


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On 02/15/2011 10:36 AM, oldcpu wrote:
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> bottle was NOT packaged for Canadian weather, and the freezing cold
> Canadian temperatures in the aircraft’s luggage compartment

it is always -55 C at commercial cruise altitude and though most cargo
areas are heated, they can (and do) get very cold sometimes…

and, of course a bottle cold soaked to near or below freezing during
flight may quickly plunge when the cargo door is opened after
landing…not mention time in the trolley…


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Hmm… interesting … although I wonder if that applies to the sort of small aircraft we flew on from Vancouver to the small city of Penticton (in Canada) ? I think it was an old Dash-8 and had something like 3 dozen seats (or maybe it was a small Fokker F27 or Fokker 50). I wonder if its luggage compartment was fully pressurized with heaters ? … but definitely when on the cargo/trolly there would have been freezing temperatures, and due to the inclimate weather the flight was delayed with the cargo/trolly spending more time outside than would be normal and that would have been enough to cause the compression/expansion needed to shatter the bottle of Thai Fish Sauce inside my girlfriend’s (now wife’s) luggage.