I have English (US) as my primary language in both YAST-language and KDE desktop configurations.
But my system is mainly displayed in secondary language, while only some are in English.
Funny too that I have two volume controls in two languages reside in the system tray.
How do I make English the main display language for all again?
use YaST… not know if in leap changed but in system > lenguage?
basically yast touch this file:
/etc/sysconfig/language
take a look at it if you found domething funny…
Make sure that the primary language is on top of the list (on the right) in KDE’s language settings.
But my system is mainly displayed in secondary language, while only some are in English.
Could you list some examples what is displayed in secondary language?
Funny too that I have two volume controls in two languages reside in the system tray.
One is KMix, the other one is the new Plasma “Volume Control” applet (plasma5-pa).
If you want to get rid of one:
Just quit kmix (right-click on the icon), and it shouldn’t be started any more, unless you manually enabled “Autostart” in its settings.
Or disable the “Volume Control” applet in the “System Tray Settings”.
You can of course also just uninstall the one you don’t want.
How do I make English the main display language for all again?
Well, what should work in any case is to remove the secondary language in the settings.
It’s probably not much use anyway, as practically everything should have an english “translation”, so there’s no need for a fallback.
Thank you, wolfi. I tried to change the language in yast etc/sysconfig to en_US. Now what was shown in secondary language changed to “?”
Then I tried to revert back those settings I changed in Yast, delete all other languages except English, and reboot but still I got many “???”. Most applications display fine, it seems plasma is having this problem.
Some serious plasma bug I would say. All I need is pure English for now…
Hm, I have never seen anything like this.
Try rebuilding the .desktop file cache, the system settings entries are stored there:
kbuildsycoca5 --noincremental
(run that as user)
Do you have the package desktop-translations installed?
I know it is broken for some languages (swedish at least), so try to uninstall it.
i got a case when after reboot openSUSE 42.2 Leap KDE system language was other then primarily language specified in the yast settings list
check a value of two system variables: LANG and LANGUAGE. in my case first was ‘en’ and second ‘ru’
those those variables are set in ~/.config/plasma-locale-settings.sh so change LANGUAGE to en and log out
does not looks like YaST updates those values when a primarily language is set
I had a similar issue with 42.2 rc2 and stable
https://forums.opensuse.org/showthread.php/520802-Discussion-thread-for-42-2-Release-Candidate-2-(RC2)?p=2799560#post2799560
the only way around it was to remove the 2nd language
I’ll try intord’s suggestion
this seams to be a kde bug as I tested it in several languages and in happened in 2 out of 3 languages I tested (2 of those wore the same language different country)
I think this should be reported upstream to kde
about the ??? it seams etc->sysconfig editor selected a bad font ie a nonunicode one a font that doesn’t have the 2nd language gliphs
can somebody with a different distro using plasma 5.8 confirm this happens so we can rule out opensuse’s build as the culprit? as it didn’t happen with plasma 5.7 (down to 5.4) on 42.1 or 13.2
No, it doesn’t, and it cannot change the user’s settings anyway as it runs as root.
YaST does set the system’s default language.
$LANG is then set accordingly by the generic X startup scripts when the user logs in.
But the desktop’s user settings override this.
That’s not a bug, but a feature.
Regading $LANGUAGE: yes, this overrides $LANG, and is not set by the standard scripts. If $LANGUAGE is not set, $LANG is used though.
That’s a standard feature too, not specific to KDE.
And Plasma does (only) set $LANGUAGE, only this makes it possible to configure more than one language, i.e. a primary language and some fallbacks.
You can change Plasma’s language setting in systemsettings5 (“Configure Desktop”) though, you don’t have to edit ~/.config/plasma-locale-settings.sh by hand.
Well, I already pointed you to an upstream bug report (about KDE4) in the other thread…
about the ??? it seams etc->sysconfig editor selected a bad font ie a nonunicode one a font that doesn’t have the 2nd language gliphs
Well, the ??? are indeed likely to be a font problem, but then that’s completely unrelated to Plasma.
And the language in the picture is set to “American English” only, which characters should be available in any normal font.
So for some reason it seems a wrong language is being used for those texts, and that may be caused by an outdated/invalid KDE cache (the cache contains the translated strings for .desktop files), or by wrong translation strings in the translation files (as I wrote this is a known problem in the package desktop-translations for some languages, I don’t know if it is fixed already but even if the cache still may contain the old/wrong translations).
On 42.2, there is also unexpected language output on the command line and in YaST when entering “preferred languages”. This suggests the problem is more low level than KDE. Also note that the behaviour is different when a language setting is made more specific such as in “en_US” vs. plain “en”. This can be easily replicated by setting the environment variables discussed above, for example
for LANG in '' en en_GB en_IE en_XX de de_DE fr ; do
for LANGUAGE in en_GB:en_US:fr:de en:fr:de de:fr:en en_IE:fr:de ; do
echo -e $LANG ' ' $LANGUAGE ' ' `LANG=$LANG LANGUAGE=$LANGUAGE df | head -1 | cut -c-15`
done
echo
done
en_GB:en_US:fr:de Filesystem
en:fr:de Filesystem
de:fr:en Filesystem
en_IE:fr:de Filesystem
en en_GB:en_US:fr:de Filesystem
en en:fr:de Filesystem
en de:fr:en Filesystem
en en_IE:fr:de Filesystem
en_GB en_GB:en_US:fr:de Sys. de fichier
en_GB en:fr:de Sys. de fichier
en_GB de:fr:en Dateisystem
en_GB en_IE:fr:de Sys. de fichier
en_IE en_GB:en_US:fr:de Sys. de fichier
en_IE en:fr:de Sys. de fichier
en_IE de:fr:en Dateisystem
en_IE en_IE:fr:de Sys. de fichier
en_XX en_GB:en_US:fr:de Filesystem
en_XX en:fr:de Filesystem
en_XX de:fr:en Filesystem
en_XX en_IE:fr:de Filesystem
de en_GB:en_US:fr:de Filesystem
de en:fr:de Filesystem
de de:fr:en Filesystem
de en_IE:fr:de Filesystem
de_DE en_GB:en_US:fr:de Sys. de fichier
de_DE en:fr:de Sys. de fichier
de_DE de:fr:en Dateisystem
de_DE en_IE:fr:de Sys. de fichier
fr en_GB:en_US:fr:de Filesystem
fr en:fr:de Filesystem
fr de:fr:en Filesystem
fr en_IE:fr:de Filesystem
(“Dateisystem” is German (de) and “syst`eme de fichier” is French (fr).)