Adobe pulls Flash Player support for Android 4.1

malcolmlewis · June 30, 2012, 1:13am

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-501465_162-57464022-501465/adobe-pulls-flash-player-support-for-android-4.1/?tag=cbsnewsSectionContent.10

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deano_ferrari · June 30, 2012, 1:37am

Thanks for posting that Malcolm. I was wondering about this, given the recent discussion about flash-player, HAL, and DRM content, we’ve had here:

http://forums.opensuse.org/english/get-technical-help-here/applications/476328-flash-player-requires-hal-drm-content.html

Interesting comments:

(CBS News) Let’s be clear, Flash is not dead. Nor is Adobe Systems planning to kill Flash anytime soon. However, the company announced Thursday that the Flash Player web browser plug-in will no longer be supported for Android 4.1 - also known as Jelly Bean. Adobe encourages anyone who wants to access Flash Player on their Android 4.0 on smartphones or tablets, should do so on certified devices that have Flash Player pre-installed from the manufacturer.

This will surely blow up in their face, and kill flash. They deserve it, with their backwards thinking. The only reason for its widespread use is for free client-side access. Removing this, effectively shuts out a large proportion of web users. Developers will be forced to move away from this.

“Flash is nowhere near being dead,” Rich Lee, product marketing manager for Adobe Flash Professional told CBS News. Adobe is still developing Flash for creative professionals and focusing on use cases for high-definition video and gaming.

Yeah, right. Sounds like spin.

deano_ferrari · June 30, 2012, 1:41am

A slightly different take on it:

No Jelly Bean For Flash, HTML5 The Merciless | CrazyEngineers

Looks more like they’ve had to respond to the growing popularity of HTML5

deano_ferrari · June 30, 2012, 1:45am

This HTML5 test may be of interest to others:

The HTML5 test - How well does your browser support HTML5?

malcolmlewis · June 30, 2012, 2:19am

Hi
Sounds like a spin on the ‘surface’

Currently SLE still has hal available, however if I go to site that
won’t work for what I want to view, I generally don’t visit there
anymore…

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robin_listas · June 30, 2012, 3:25am

On 2012-06-30 01:46, deano ferrari wrote:
>
> This HTML5 test may be of interest to others:
>
> ‘The HTML5 test - How well does your browser support HTML5?’
> (http://html5test.com/)

330/500 - not very good, no?

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deano_ferrari · June 30, 2012, 3:33am

330/500 - not very good, no?

Not comparatively. That is the result I obatined with Firefox 12.0. So, room for improvement yet.

deano_ferrari · June 30, 2012, 3:34am

Currently SLE still has hal available, however if I go to site that
won’t work for what I want to view, I generally don’t visit there
anymore…

Yes, I’m the same, and I’m sure the growing number of smart phone users will be the same.

deano_ferrari · June 30, 2012, 4:20am

Some discussion on HTML5 and proposed video copy protection:

Standards leader blasts HTML5 video copy protection | Deep Tech - CNET News

Proposal to add DRM to HTML5 meets resistence - The H Open: News and Features

caf4926 · June 30, 2012, 4:48am

You bet your life: The root of all this is Money and Corruption.

user · June 30, 2012, 9:05am

On 06/30/2012 01:46 AM, deano ferrari wrote:
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> (http://html5test.com/)

THANKS for posting that!!

results here on 11.4/32/KDE4:

427 + 13 bonus: Chrome (Unstable 21.0.1180.0-142910)
381 + 2 bonus: Chromium (17.0.945.0-7.1)
338 + 2 bonus: Opera (11.62-16.1 build 1347)
330 + 9 bonus: Firefox (13.0-0.25.2)
96 + 6 bonus: Konqueror (4.6.0-6.17.1)

see a trend?

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user · June 30, 2012, 9:07am

On 06/30/2012 04:56 AM, caf4926 wrote:
> You bet your life

zero doubt!

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deano_ferrari · June 30, 2012, 11:23am

THANKS for posting that!!

results here on 11.4/32/KDE4:

427 + 13 bonus: Chrome (Unstable 21.0.1180.0-142910)
381 + 2 bonus: Chromium (17.0.945.0-7.1)
338 + 2 bonus: Opera (11.62-16.1 build 1347)
330 + 9 bonus: Firefox (13.0-0.25.2)
96 + 6 bonus: Konqueror (4.6.0-6.17.1)

see a trend?

I didn’t see your IE result posted

67GTA · July 1, 2012, 1:36am

I got 345/500 and 9 bonus points with firefox 13.0.1. According to the stats on that site, IE9 is at 138.

user · July 1, 2012, 10:57am

On 06/30/2012 11:26 AM, deano ferrari wrote:
> I didn’t see your IE result posted

no thanks!

but, i see a 138 has been posted for IE9!

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robin_listas · July 1, 2012, 1:53pm

On 2012-07-01 10:57, dd@home.dk wrote:
> On 06/30/2012 11:26 AM, deano ferrari wrote:
>> I didn’t see your IE result posted
>
> no thanks!
>
> but, i see a 138 has been posted for IE9!

Confirmed, that’s what I get in my laptop.

And it is nothing to be happy about, because html5 will not take over
unless IE fully supports it

By the way.

Recently I had to use a site done in Flash - not the typical video
rendering, but actual interactive coding. Typing things, reacting, etc, the
code was done in flash. But I don’t remember where it was

Ah, I do! The new TomTom 1000 series web application for updates and
management. A very closed gadget, the last I buy from tomtom if I can help it.

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robin_listas · July 1, 2012, 3:18pm

On 2012-06-30 03:25, Carlos E. R. wrote:
> On 2012-06-30 01:46, deano ferrari wrote:
>>
>> This HTML5 test may be of interest to others:
>>
>> ‘The HTML5 test - How well does your browser support HTML5?’
>> (http://html5test.com/)
>
> 330/500 - not very good, no?

On my laptop I get 330 as well, but 345 under Windows - what a shame

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martin_helm · July 1, 2012, 3:40pm

Am 01.07.2012 15:18, schrieb Carlos E. R.:
> On my laptop I get 330 as well, but 345 under Windows - what a shame
>
I get 345 + 9 bonus points on openSUSE 12.1 with FF 13.
Does your Linux version of FF differ from what you have on Windows?

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martin_helm · July 1, 2012, 3:42pm

Am 01.07.2012 15:40, schrieb Martin Helm:
> Am 01.07.2012 15:18, schrieb Carlos E. R.:
>> On my laptop I get 330 as well, but 345 under Windows - what a shame
>>
> I get 345 + 9 bonus points on openSUSE 12.1 with FF 13.
> Does your Linux version of FF differ from what you have on Windows?
>
Btw with Chromium 21 I get 436 + 13 bonus points on the same system.

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robin_listas · July 1, 2012, 3:58pm

On 2012-07-01 15:40, Martin Helm wrote:
> Am 01.07.2012 15:18, schrieb Carlos E. R.:
>> On my laptop I get 330 as well, but 345 under Windows - what a shame
>>
> I get 345 + 9 bonus points on openSUSE 12.1 with FF 13.
> Does your Linux version of FF differ from what you have on Windows?

Version 13 on both, oS 11.4 and W7. It is the same score I get on the
desktop (Linux only).

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