Think this subject was brought up before -but- once again in my searches I am not finding any satisfactory answers. Maybe I’m using the wrong words in my searches.
Anyway, why when I log on to my System do I get notice of, say 41 UpDates from apper, -but- when I go to the OnLine UpDater in YaST2 there are none??? This doesn’t make sense. I haven’t used apper for a long time. Last time I used it… it made a mess of my System. No, I did not report it I just used the OnLine UpDater which always works… Except… for possibley now??
A further comment that may be of use to someone else. Credit for this goes to James and Henk… at least the background info.
I plan on allowing ‘apper’ to let me know about updates and then using ‘YaST2 OnLine’ to do the updates. James’s trick of “All Packages” and “Update if Newer” did the trick. Got the same 41 that apper was yelling about. (haven’t tried the Vendor part yet) I already have the ‘other’ REPOs in my list.
So, we have an “announcer” and a “doer”. Could be the same -but- we are still not comfortable with 'apper’s operation.
We tell you the facts. You have to take any decissions on how you want to use the tools and if and how to keep your system up-to-date.
Personaly I would like to have an anouncer of updates in the Update repos (Patches). We had one in earlier openSUSE versions, but Apper is not able to split between Patches and Updates. Thus I do not install Apper, nor packagekit. About once a week I start YaST > Software > Online Update and check what is there. Mostly I do then continue installing them.
For eventual updates in the non-standrad repos, I usualy check them (Packman also every week, some only every half year or so) one by one and install after a short inspection.
But again, that is my personal way of life in this subject.
Just set the option “HidePackages=true” in /etc/PackageKit/ZYpp.conf and it will only show official patches in the Update repos (like YaST->Online Update).
> Personaly I would like to have an anouncer of updates in the Update
> repos (Patches). We had one in earlier openSUSE versions, but Apper is
> not able to split between Patches and Updates. Thus I do not install
> Apper, nor packagekit. About once a week I start YaST > Software >
> Online Update and check what is there. Mostly I do then continue
> installing them.
There is a RO mail list that announces the updates.
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Cheers / Saludos,
Carlos E. R.
(from 12.3 x86_64 “Dartmouth” at Telcontar)
On 2013-11-18 16:06, wolfi323 wrote:
>
> anika200;2598554 Wrote:
>> Well would it not be of interest to give some more details here? :
> See here: ‘openSUSE Mailinglist Archive: opensuse-updates’
> (http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-updates/)
Actually, it is “opensuse-security-announce at opensuse.org”. The other
one has all the updates.
To subscribe:
> List-Post: <mailto:opensuse-security-announce at opensuse.org>
> List-Help: <mailto:opensuse-security-announce+help at opensuse.org>
> List-Subscribe: <mailto:opensuse-security-announce+subscribe at opensuse.org>
> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:opensuse-security-announce+unsubscribe at opensuse.org>
> List-Owner: <mailto:opensuse-security-announce+owner at opensuse.org>
> List-Archive: <http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-security-announce/>
On 2013-11-18 17:26, hcvv wrote:
>
> There is a sub-forums for it here: http://tinyurl.com/cdgus6e
> And you can of course subscribe your RSS feeder to it.
But the forum doesn’t carry the entire information, the emails do.
You have to click on “more…”, which takes you to the mail list web
archive… rather roundabout route, I think.
Those posts are for several openSUSE releases, and SUSE releases as
well. The subject title tells the package that gets an update, but the
affected product paragraph is not included in the brief text the forum
post shows, you have to click on the link to learn that information.
That is several clicks from the start.
IMHO, the forum post should include the full “header”, that is included
between lines. Like this:
openSUSE Security Update: openssh: security fix for remote code
execution with AES-GCM
______________________________________________________________________________
Announcement ID: openSUSE-SU-2013:1726-1
Rating: important
References: #849536
Cross-References: CVE-2013-4548
Affected Products:
openSUSE 13.1
______________________________________________________________________________
An update that fixes one vulnerability is now available.
Description:
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Cheers / Saludos,
Carlos E. R.
(from 12.3 x86_64 “Dartmouth” at Telcontar)
On 2013-11-18 18:36, hcvv wrote:
>
> I only offer another way of getting the Security anouncements anounced.
> I am nnot counting clicks.
>
> In any case, this is only about security anouncements, not about Patches
> in the Update repos, which is what were talkingg about.
The security announcements are precisely the patches. Traditionally we
only got security updates, but since Novel entered on the pictures we
also get some other updates besides security ones on the same channel.
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Cheers / Saludos,
Carlos E. R.
(from 12.3 x86_64 “Dartmouth” at Telcontar)
