You may not edit your posts
–
So, will this be a permanent thing?
I often like to edit my my posts as new information arises or to fix obvious spelling mistakes or change something obviously not suitable.
I’ll find out; have to kick it up to an Amin.
Just a recall of a discussion before going Live. The ability to edit in vBulletin could be either turned on or off, but not have a time limit. Our previous Forums would allow a Time for individual edits of a day. Afterwards it would be looked to prevent changes that could destroy the flow of the Thread.
The Moderators and Admins can make a edit for any Member if they request it and it seems a fair thing to do. Admittedly I prefer the Old Method. But some features of this new Board will take some getting use to.
However the person best suited for knowing whether Edits could be turned on is Kgroneman, since he has the Instruction guide that came with the Cereal box. :rolleyes:
does the same apply for posting attachments? once the forums go live we can? or is once you post x amount of posts, like at the old forums at suselinuxsupport.de?
thanks in advance…good to see you again MattB (now MattBclassic)
you see after my ‘will i keep my name?’ i have… 
iirc it was decided no attachments, even screenshots are handled by outside sites. But that is iirc
irc it was decided no attachments, even screenshots are handled by outside sites. But that is iirc
We have a screenshot forum where attachments are enabled.
Myself I like the ability to edit my posts.
Only cause I usually make mistakes. Or want to add something I found to a post.
From some other forums I know the possibility of editing the message. In most cases you are just able to edit a post for about 6 hours or something. Maybe that is even too long, but at least for an hour it would be fine.
This reply is here Demon Typers - openSUSE Forums
Edit was quite a topic of discussion in the talks leading up to the merge with wildly varying opinions of the staff. We haven’t come to a total conclusion on it yet but we’re very close to an agreement. What it looks like will be the policy (don’t quote me until it is) is that we won’t allow users to edit their posts but will leave that up to Moderators. If a user thinks their post is bad enough to need an edit, he/she/it can always delete the post and repost or ask a moderator to make an edit.
The reason for this is that a technical post could have a lot of good replies to the content of that post. If a user decides to edit the post, it could totally change the context and invalidate any reply it has received. Joe User comes along and reads the post and the replies and tries the advice given only to find he’s just blow away critical data. I know, that’s an extreme example but you can see what I mean.
One other factor in this is that though a post is edited here in the web interface, edits don’t go through the gateway to the NNTP interface so you’d have two copies of the same message with different content.
We should have an official policy on this before long.
As it is more relevant here I hoping no one finds offense.
On 2008-06-08, Chrysantine <Chrysantine@no-mx.forums.opensuse.org> wrote:
> You may not edit your posts
>
> –
>
> So, will this be a permanent thing?
>
> I often like to edit my my posts as new information arises or to fix
> obvious spelling mistakes or change something obviously not suitable.
Editing posts only makes sense for messages in a web forum.
These discusions can also be read trough the Novell newsserver. Correcting a
message that has allready been DL’ed to someones newsreader doesn’t really
make sense.
Besides, even in a web forum it’s not very comfortable to have to re-read
old messages, just because their content changes.
Why not just send a follow-up message, with the corrected information? That
way, the thread remains meaningfull.
After all, people might write reactions to your original message, that no
longer make sense when read after your corrections.
–
The sand remembers once there was beach and sunshine
but chip is warm too
– haiku from Effector Online, Volume 1, Number 6
In the world according to Kim (which everyone should be aligned with , it doesn’t even make sense to edit web forum posts. For example, someone can post “Why do you like basketball?” and that post can get multiple replies such as “It’s one of my favorite things to do in the evenings” or “I just like interacting with the guys involved”…
…and then the original post can be changed to “Why do you like child porn?” and you can see this totally changes the context of the replies.
Besides, even in a web forum it’s not very comfortable to have to re-read old messages, just because their content changes.
Hadn’t thought of that, but if you’re someone trying to reply to as many questions as you can, you may not come back after you’ve originally responded.
Why not just send a follow-up message, with the corrected information? That way, the thread remains meaningfull.
I’d vote for that.
After all, people might write reactions to your original message, that no longer make sense when read after your corrections.
Exactly…in fact in some technical discussions, the thread may be totally misleading and potentially damaging to your setup if the original question changes after replies are posted.
So I’ll post a second post with all my typing errors fixed?
Seriously though - it would be nice to have at least a minute or two to edit the obvious mistakes in the original post.
What if I accidentally post a link that is incorrect - I’ll have to private message an administrator to have it changed. That doesn’t make any sense at all, it just wastes everyones time.
I know the NNTP side causes issues but after all this is supposed to mainly a web forum, not a replacement for mailing lists, right?
it would be nice to have at least a minute or two to edit the obvious mistakes in the original post.
I dunno if vBulletin has that kind of option available. Haven’t looked into it. If it does, a few minutes is probably not out of the question.
Hopefully it has such an option - I just spotted an obvious mistake in my earlier post I could’ve corrected in a few seconds
On 2008-06-08, Chrysantine <Chrysantine@no-mx.forums.opensuse.org> wrote:
>> Why not just send a follow-up message, with the corrected information?
>> That
>> way, the thread remains meaningfull.
> So I’ll post a second post with all my typing errors fixed?
Don’t make’em. Or use some tools to spell-correct most error out. I noticed
even browsers to spell-checking now. Weird, but usefull in this context.
> Seriously though - it would be nice to have at least a minute or two to
> edit the obvious mistakes in the original post.
Take a minute or two, before saving your message.
Just re-read it, before sending it.
Maybe the web forum editor could delay publishing your new message for 15
min. That way, you’d have that much time to re-consider.
> What if I accidentally post a link that is incorrect - I’ll have to
> private message an administrator to have it changed. That doesn’t make
> any sense at all, it just wastes everyones time.
If you spot it too late for the original message, just send a new mail to
the thread saying: “watch it, there was an error in that line”.
> I know the NNTP side causes issues but after all this is supposed to
> mainly a web forum, not a replacement for mailing lists, right?
Don’t confuse a mailing list with a news server. They’re very different.
But more to the point: what does it matter how the mail’s transported?
I’m not the only one to have given example why editing can be a bad idea.
Those stand, even in a web forum. Context is everything. Allowing to edit a
message after other people have read it, change the context of the replies
to that message.
Of course, I’d encourage an editing mode that keeps your mail stored without
sending it, until you give your final OK. That would give you time to
review your message, before it’s been read by anyone.
That’s something a news reader would do, by saving a draft.
–
The sand remembers once there was beach and sunshine
but chip is warm too
– haiku from Effector Online, Volume 1, Number 6
And what if an address I’m linking to changes on the fly?
Oh let’s message that admin again…
Useless waste of time that takes away from people getting the real work done - I have no interest in mailing people to correct mistakes I’ve made.
This is THE ONLY forum I know and even more so on a tech site, where a registered user cannot edit their posts.
This is starting, for me, to become a deal breaker whether I’m going to bother sticking around here or not. Not that anyone would miss me but I don’t think I’m alone in this.
in the screenshots thread, it still says i am not able to post attachments…? and i can’t see anywhere on the page where i can add one by browsing my /home… 
thanks in advance of any response.
Personally, I prefer what some boards have, the “grace period” after the original post (usually up to a minute) within which you can edit, and my vote would go for something like that.
IMHO this is an interesting point.
This point makes me wonder what sort of community “addition” are we looking at on the NNTP side?
Is it possible to have a delay in the “NNTP side” built in (say 5 minutes or so), such that what they receive includes “short term edits”, and thus make this a non-issue for short term edits?
I would like to see edits enabled as I have used it many times for good reason.
First point, the hypotheticals above - the ifs, mights and coulds, etc - due to the sequencing of posts - are easily fixed by the system adding a small notation to the post that has been edited, for example:
“Edited by ‘forum user’: time, date.”
Secondly, I don’t recall seeing editorial abuse over a couple of years on the previous Suse fora. If there was I think it would be noticed.
If edits take up a lot of admin time you can always turn it off, but a bit more flexibility right now would be quite a positive thing.