I would recommend not to do any upgrade after installing m5.after update yast software manager is broken , no usb memory stick devices working, difficult wireless connection. better stick to m5 and wait for m6
You mean stick with m4 and don’t install m5 ? :\ m4 was ok in my books, but m5 introduced a bunch of new and annoying bugs (and kept some of the old from m4).
Reference YaST software manager, I simply go to the repos for Smart package manager and install the Smart factory version. It works great on all 11.2 milestone versions to date. One does have to set up the repos. That is DEFINITELY more than adequate for anyone who wishes to do further tests on 11.2 M5. Software installs with NO problems.
Reference the USB stick devices. Some work. Some don’t. I’ve got something like 5 USB sticks around the apartment. 2 worked. 3 did not.
Wireless I have not tested. I’ll try it on our family laptop this weekend (using the live CD - and NOT installing).
I do believe that ANY 11.2 milestone release should ONLY be installed for testing, and not for ANY other use.
But the whole point of these releases is find the problems and work on them, report them.
> I would recommend not to do any upgrade after installing m5.after update
> yast software manager is broken , no usb memory stick devices working,
> difficult wireless connection. better stick to m5 and wait for m6
YAST works OK for me - apart from the awful new layout - after a spell of
only being able to use it when logged on as root. Also no trouble with
wireless - Broadcom 4318. No USB stick so can’t say.
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What network manager were you using?
Out of curiousity, I tried the openSUSE-11.2 milestone5 liveCD 64 bit and then 32bit in my Dell Studio 1537.
The 64-bit was a bit of a disaster. The 32-bit looked promising. I’m not sure I have the energy to search for, and then write the many bug reports on the 64-bit.
Details: PC is a Dell Studio 1537; Intel core2 duo P8400, w/radeon 3450 HD graphics, and Intel 5300AGN wireless and 4GB RAM. openSUSE-11.1 (32-bit) works fine on this laptop. I have not tried a 64-bit openSUSE-11.1 (that I can remember - my memory can be bad).
- Nominal graphics (presumably using a radeon) failed to boot liveCD. Also tried vesa, which did not work. Kept hanging at a blank black page around time of kdm load. No key sequence would bring back a workable screen. Only power off. Finally booted live cd to text mode. Logged in as user ‘linux’ and typed ‘su’ to get root permissions. At that point “sax2 -r -m 0=vesa” worked to bring a desktop. I later tried “sax2 -r -m 0=radeonhd” and that also worked to boot kde4. So something is clearly messed up in the installation routine if it works from text commands.
- power management did not work. Got boot error and kde error about power management problem. Laptop was getting warm, which caused me to rush all subsequent tests.
- wireless device not even recognized by YaST (although it did show up with lspci)
- wired device recognized, but no internet nor local LAN
- sound did not work (got a kmix error). I did not try to fix sound.
I wasted an hour on those attempts.
- Nominal graphics (presumably using a radeon) failed to boot liveCD. Kept hanging at a blank black page around time of kdm load. No key sequence would bring back a workable screen. Only power off. Vesa setting did work bring up to KDE4.
- power management worked with no settings needed
- wired worked with no settings needed. Immediate internet access.
- sound worked with no settings needed
- wireless device recognized by the network manager, but it refused to connect. Me thinks this network manager app needs work
- I saw a login message about bluetooth being recognized, but I did not try it
I spent an hour playing with the above 32-bit stuff.
So I’m a bit drained. I may go to IRC channel freenode #opensuse-factory, and ask if they want bug reports on the 64-bit poor behaviour. I have a hunch they already know of these hiccups.
Graham P Davis wrote:
> giorsat wrote:
>> I would recommend not to do any upgrade after installing m5.after update
>> yast software manager is broken , no usb memory stick devices working,
>> difficult wireless connection. better stick to m5 and wait for m6
> YAST works OK for me - apart from the awful new layout - after a spell of
> only being able to use it when logged on as root. Also no trouble with
> wireless - Broadcom 4318. No USB stick so can’t say.
Wireless works with M5, but the NetworkManager still has the problem
it has had since M1 - you cannot authenticate with WPA or WPA2
encryption using KDE and the kNM applet. Gnome is OK, as is using ifup.
I tried the m5 when it first came out and it was a complete disaster did a net install the next monday. about 3-4 days later and the x and hal problems were fixed and m5 is up and running. I fixed my wireless by disabling IPv6 in yast and doing a reboot.
The double click yast is a pia. However I found that I can keep the package manager by adjusting the system configuration
in yast. top shows that the overheads (memory and cpu usage is a lot less.
However I found that I can keep the package manager by adjusting the system configuration
Would you mind explaining what you mean by this?
in YaST open
in the System section open the /etc/sysconfig Editor
click on PKGMGR_ACTION_AT_EXIT
The default action is to close the package manager when it finishes which I find very irritating this allows me to keep it open so I can find new packages with out having everything refresh depositories and so forth
I’m using the 64bit version with gnome.
I think there is a minum level of functionality in pre releases underneath wich a milestone is completely unusuable. I think that after the updates, the m5 is under this minimum so I gave my opinion to people who are wondering if to update or not, not to do it and wait next milestone.
What you wrote is not an opinion, it’s a statement. Based on nothing but your own experience.
I did a M5 install today and no trouble at all. What would you think if I posted that everybody should install M5, since it’s bugfree.
AGAIN: M5 is not a release, it’s for testing purposes only.
everybody is free to express their opinions. and I’m not alone to see how many problems m5 has. the rest is just arguing no sense
OK, I tried the 64-bit Live DD for openSUSE-11.2 build 0235 (which I believe is Milestone-6) on the same laptop. Its SIGNIFICANTLY better.
- openGL graphic driver “just worked” at 1024x768
- power manager appeared to work. No problem.
- wireless device was recognized. Wireless manager in lower right corner did NOT work. But I was able to go into YaST > Network > Network Devices and configure the wireless. I think the wireless is working better with 11.2 milestone-6 than it does on my openSUSE-11.1 32-bit.
- sound worked. No setup required.
That was less than 15 minutes of testing.
The difference between milestone5 and what I believe to be milestone6 (build 0235) is like night and day.
check one of your virtual terminals. That will show which milestone you are in and your kernel
radeon and radeonhd drivers are loaded automatically
to make my networkmanager work I deleted my /home/*/.kde4 files and let the system reinstall the defaults and its working like
My only complaint is on vt 10 cpu temp clock throttleing goes berserk