It’s long past my time to update really but only just noticed that this is available. I would like to know a couple of things before I install.
I use an unusual partitioning arrangement. Is there an option to import current without change apart from format which I understand is just btrfs or xfs on Leap.
I’ve stuck with KDEPIM3 for a long time and notice that the repo only offers unsupported versions. Am I likely to have any problems with that. I usually import some of my current emails.
What email packages does Leap offer, mostly so I can take a look at them before installing and also see if I can import into them.
If you update a current version the old partitioning is used ie no change there. Depending on what you version you now run and how you intend to upgrade it may be wiser to do a clean new install. Lot’s of fundamental changes are happening, not just the naming. If you do a new install you will need to tell the installer about your “different” partition scheme and how you want it done.
It is possible that KDEPIM3 may no longer be supported at the KDE level. Check the KDE forums or mail lists for that
Same email packages as ever. no new or different there.
KDE have nothing to do with KDEPIM3 now as far as I know. OpenSuse is the only distro I am aware of that offer it on a KDE4 platform. Done because there were far too many problems with Kmail4. In fact I understand it has never really caught up with Kmail3. Actually 4 was so bad I don’t think anyone on the mailing list runs any version of Kmail any more. Certainly not long term kde users.
It’s available on 13.2 and Tumbleweed as an official release but not on Leap for some reason. Only unsupported. A more pertinent question might when will it be an official release on Leap.
Sorry just noticed I haven’t updated my signature. I’m on 12.3 currently and was waiting for 13.3
Correct.
KDE abandoned the development of KDEPIM3 (and the rest of KDE3) when they released KDE4 years ago.
OpenSuse is the only distro I am aware of that offer it on a KDE4 platform. Done because there were far too many problems with Kmail4.
Wrong.
openSUSE only still offers it, because some volunteers stepped up to keep maintaining the whole KDE3.
It’s not included in Leap anymore though.
In fact I understand it has never really caught up with Kmail3. Actually 4 was so bad I don’t think anyone on the mailing list runs any version of Kmail any more. Certainly not long term kde users.
I do run it, and I am a long term KDE user.
For not having “caught up”, that’s non-sense AFAICT. The first KMail4 versions were a straight port of KMail3.
Later (in 4.7) it started to use the new Akonadi framework though, which some people don’t like for various reasons.
Actually, e.g. IMAP support in KMail4 is far better now than it ever was in KMail3 AIUI.
It’s available on 13.2 and Tumbleweed as an official release but not on Leap for some reason. Only unsupported. A more pertinent question might when will it be an official release on Leap.
Because nobody bothered to submit KDE3 to Leap.
It is still available in the KDE:KDE3 repo though, which also exists for Leap since a few days.
Sorry just noticed I haven’t updated my signature. I’m on 12.3 currently and was waiting for 13.3
An upgrade from 12.3 to 13.3 wouldn’t have been supported anyway.
Thanks Wolfie - helpful as usual. I always do a clean install but hope to import partitioning.
It sounds like I could still run Kmail3 but maybe I should change. All the filters etc are sorted though and it’s worked flawlessly for me even going back to the version on KDE2. This hasn’t been the case with Kmail4 for some people on other distro’s. Lost emails, speed and other problems.
If it is any consolation to you, I persuaded an 80 year old using XP to move to Linux and, after trying Xfce because I thought it would be easier, I installed KDE4 and imported all his emails from Outlook to Kmail, none of which he had ever deleted. It went flawlessly and, two years on, with goodness how many emails, he is still contentedly using it, adding new emails every day without (so far) any problems.
On the first partitioner screen, where it proposes partitioning, hit the “Create partitioning” button.
On the next screen, select “Custom partitioning”.
On the next screen, there is a button “Import partitioning” (or similar wording). Use that, and you can use the existing partitioning with very little effort.
As for file systems: I am using “ext4” for the root file system, and “ext2” for “/boot”. The installer picked up those from the “Import partitioning”. It did not force me to use “btrfs” or “xfs”.
What email packages does Leap offer, mostly so I can take a look at them before installing and also see if I can import into them.
My Leap system currently has: “kmail” (part of KDE4 still supported in Plasma 5), “Thunderbird”, “Claws-mail”, “Evolution”, “mutt” (a command line client), “nmh” (another command line client), “exmh” (a GUI front end to “nmh”). But I mostly use my browser and webmail.
For 13.2, I experimented with Kontact, and occasionally use “kmail”. It seemed okay. But I wasn’t thrilled with Kontact, so I’ll probably skip that in Leap and just use Google Calendar and either Thunderbird or Claws-mail when I need a GUI mail client.
sudo zypper ar http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/KDE:/KDE3/openSUSE_Leap_42.1/KDE:KDE3.repo
and then you can pull
kdepim3
sudo zypper in kdepim3
regarding formatting I have a strange setup and I still use ext4 (maybe in a year when 42.2 comes out I’ll try btrfs)
if you do a clean install when the dvd offers a partition format click advanced and reuse your existing partitions, you should reformat them to make sure there is no old data (you don’t have to reformat /home) and you have to select a partitions mount point (/ (for root) /home etc. swap is used automatically)
I’ll give the latest Kmail a try and see how it goes. There is one other old kde utility I use out of habit, kfind and it looks like wolfie has provided that. Initially I just used it from habit but did try dolphin search but found it missed files from time to time. I’d guess that has been fixed now.
The only odd thing about my partitioning is that it’s organised so that all of the software and os is on a flash drive but other than updates nothing ever writes to it. I will be sticking with that even though last time I discussed that on here to get some idea what does write some didn’t see the need. All I can say is it’s been running since the early days of 12.3 and no gremlins. My set up never swaps so using disk for that doesn’t matter.
I use KDEPIM3 not beacuse of Kmail. In fact I did not get into testing it because I tripped over KAddressbook. You can not even have a VCard directory common with other users. It is a showstopper for me. And the Categories is also not implemented as it was. To many regressions.
But I am aware of tthe fact that I am going deeper and deeper in a dead alley.
A more pertinent question might when will it be an official release on Leap.
A more pertinent question might when will it be an official release on Leap.