32bit or 64bit openSUSE

Hi,

I’m planning to install openSUSE 11.3 on my iMac, which is capable of running both 32bit or 64bit OSes.

I downloaded both 32bit openSUSE and 64bit openSUSE, so which should I install on my iMac?

BTW, what are the differences between 32bit and 64bit openSUSE(v.11.3)? Will my linux run faster if i install the 64bit openSUSE?

Thanks in advance.

Ed

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Good question. Look at the currently-running “64 bit, is it really worth
it? Or should I go with the 32?” thread in the 64-bit forum for a bit of
discussion on the same, or search through the forums for the same
discussion as it has come up several times in the last year alone.

Differences: Architecture. If that doesn’t tell you all you need to know
it probably doesn’t matter which you choose. x86_64 is backward
compatible with x86_32 so nothing really lost there plus you can use more
memory and can have better large-number handling with x86_64. In a VM,
though, you probably don’t allocate huge amounts of RAM or doing lots of
processing. I’d still go 64-bit just because it’s the future (and the
present, and a large part of the past which is why I’ve been running it
for six years now on various boxes) but that’s just me.

Good luck.

On 07/15/2010 07:26 AM, asnbd wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> I’m planning to install openSUSE 11.3 on my iMac, which is capable of
> running both 32bit or 64bit OSes.
>
> I downloaded both 32bit openSUSE and 64bit openSUSE, so which should I
> install on my iMac?
>
> BTW, what are the differences between 32bit and 64bit openSUSE(v.11.3)?
> Will my linux run faster if i install the 64bit openSUSE?
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
> Ed
>
>
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i know some of the intel based imacs have issues booting to x64 boot discs dispite having full 64bit capable hardware. i know this is true on the earlier aluminium imacs and win7 x64 and is down to the EFI firmware.

just something to note if your have issues booting. i believe it’s an issue down to x64, rather than a specific OS version.

Hi,

I’m a newbie at Linux. So I probably will just use my openSUSE to “surf the web”, “rip and store songs from cds”, or “send and receive mail.”

Which means I probably will just use the “programs” bundled with openSUSE(v.11.3).

So is it better for me to install the 64bit on my iMac? if I don’t need to consider other program whether can run in 64bit.

I tried to run my mac os x(snow leopard) at 64 bit, but soon find out that the system cannot handle some 32bit programs. so i reinstalled the 32bit version of Snow Leopard

last question: if i only uses the software that are bundled with the opensuse, will 64 bit better for my computer 2.4GHz Intel Core 2 Duo 4GB 800MHz DDR2 SDRAM

Will it run faster, or more robotic?

Thanks.

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Typically problems booting 64-bit when using 64-bit hardware is specific
to virtualization. If your processor does not have the AMD-V or Intel VT
stuff in the actual processor then you can run a 64-bit OS but you cannot
virtualize 64-bit. This is a hardware issue and affects all platforms as
a result. Check with your processor specs for details.

Good luck.

On 07/15/2010 08:26 AM, veehexx wrote:
>
> i know some of the intel based imacs have issues booting to x64 boot
> discs dispite having full 64bit capable hardware. i know this is true on
> the earlier aluminium imacs and win7 x64 and is down to the EFI
> firmware.
>
> just something to note if your have issues booting. i believe it’s an
> issue down to x64, rather than a specific OS version.
>
>
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asnbd wrote:

>
> Hi,
>
> I’m planning to install openSUSE 11.3 on my iMac, which is capable of
> running both 32bit or 64bit OSes.
>
> I downloaded both 32bit openSUSE and 64bit openSUSE, so which should I
> install on my iMac?

Unless you’ve got more than 4Gb of memory or specific applications that
need 64bit, I would choose 32bit.


Per Jessen, Zürich (23.8°C)
http://en.opensuse.org/User:Pjessen

If 64bit capable, take 64bit. No reason not to do so. The OS will make full use of your system’s architecture.
Some remark: 32bit kernel-desktop has PAE built in, and hence can handle > 3 GB.

Hi,

64 bit won’t cause you any problems (that can’t easily be solved), many
of us have been using 64 bit openSUSE for a long time with minimal
issues. But there are occasionally issues, so if you aren’t going to
gain much and you aren’t too comfortable with GNU/Linux yet, I’d suggest
32 bit.

But don’t worry too much about it, and remember the openSUSE community
is always there if you need help.

Regards,
Barry.

Knurpht wrote:

>
> If 64bit capable, take 64bit. No reason not to do so.

There are at least two -

  • there is no 64bit flash, so on a desktop, you need to do some fiddling
    to get it working with 32bit instead. 64 bit java used to be a problem
    IIRC, but I have not looked at that for quite a while.

  • if you’re running lots of processes, you will likely hit the memory
    ceiling faster with a 64bit system, because all pointers are twice the
    size. I have a number of mailservers that regularly run hundreds of
    postfix processes - this is far more efficient on 32bit.

The choice 32/64 bit is the usual - if it doesn’t give you a benefit,
why change?

> The OS will make full use of your system’s architecture.
> Some remark: 32bit kernel-desktop has PAE built in, and hence can
> handle > 3 GB.

Albeit slower, but probably not noticable to the casual observer.


Per Jessen, Zürich (21.1°C)
http://en.opensuse.org/User:Pjessen

Per Jessen wrote:

> Knurpht wrote:
>
>>
>> If 64bit capable, take 64bit. No reason not to do so.
>
> There are at least two -
>
> - if you’re running lots of processes, you will likely hit the memory
> ceiling faster with a 64bit system, because all pointers are twice the
> size. I have a number of mailservers that regularly run hundreds of
> postfix processes - this is far more efficient on 32bit.

Example:

one of my backend mailservers is being hammered right now - it’s an AMD
3800+ with 1Gb RAM. It’s running 864 processes, mostly smtpd. With
32bit, those 800 proceses use a lot less memory so I get to run more of
them than I would have with a 64bit os.


Per Jessen, Zürich (22.3°C)
http://en.opensuse.org/User:Pjessen