I love 32/64 debates
I wonder if the future debates will be 32/64/128 or 32/128, probably 64/128. To save time all we will need to do is cut and paste the 32/64 debates and just change a couple of numbers 
Future will be quantum computing with qubits which canât be put into a 32/64/128 bit context but in entanglement and superpositions (eg, a qubit can be 0-only, 1-only and both 0 and 1 at the same time) ![]()
I look forward to that. I would also love to see advances in DNA computing for the home user. I canât wait to see what the next ten years bring to computers in general.
Maybe Taralkeda has a 32-bit cat. lol!
DNA is already digital, ie works extremely similar to digital technology, since a gene can be only on (1) or off (0) and not only on, only off and on and off at the same time as is the case in quantum computation
so it doesnât really bring anything new to the table, DNA that is
rotfl! yes yes, you found it!!! thatâs the real reason why heâs refusing it or is suspicious about 64bit! itâs 'cause his cat is still 32bit ![]()
rotfl!
Just think. The technology to just use ones own DNA. Gives a whole new meaning to building a computer. Forget monitors. Lets just plug our own computer straight into our head. Instead of playing World of Warcraft and looking at a monitor, our head/eyes would be that monitor and we could just be in the game, not looking at it.
I wonder if my DNA based home computer will catch a cold, or if I can catch a virus from it⌠rotfl!
yeah but that still doesnât really bring anything new that can vastly increase computational power. Only quantum computing can do that. Brain processing is a billion times slower wrt to computation when compared to a quantum computer, which again compared to current computers, can be a few thousand billion times faster
The advantage of brain computation lies in the vast complex interconnected neuronic network that makes it up. If possible to enhance such a network with quantum computational speeds, possibilities will be almost limitless ![]()
Great. My cat already looks at me like I am an idiot at times. Now my future quantum computer will do the same thing?! I would love to see the Microsoft error messages on that, lol.
well, speed != intelligence or consciousness so if you have an extremely simple network but which runs at absurdly high speeds, itâll do things very fast but wonât be aware of itself. So, I highly doubt that a quantum computer on its own will gain intelligence due to its speed. If we can create software which can emulate or mimic how our brain generates consciousness and intelligence by learning, then yes. Or as said, if we can bring quantum computational speeds to our own brains, thatâll be great
Also, more and more it seems that our own universe acts as itâs a simulation on its own, thus it is possible that we already live inside an extremely powerful Turing machine which creates the simulation we call âworldâ or âuniverseâ and everything inside it. The funny thing here is that, if this simulation does not give out the fact that itâs a simulation and thereâs no way one can find out, you canât falsify that we donât live in a simulation - read up on digital physics and black hole holography
As for error messages, itâll be a flash too fast to even notice thus you wouldnât know what happened ![]()
I often wondered about that. Just the little I know about particle physics, etc, makes me sit back in amazement. Everything made up of the same things, all matter made up of energy, just different forms. I will check out the digital physics and black hole holography. Sounds interesting.
We are talking about Microsoft errors, where would fast come in
I can see a little paper clip coming out and saying something like âSorry, Windows found a system error. Could you please go get someone with a real brain to continue?â
I wonder if the blue screen of death would actually kill a personâŚ
For you the 64bit flash and java issues might not be there but for some I have seen people have issues.
Its not as common as it used to be but its still here.
can you predict what your future needs may be?
No one can, right now the only major upgrade I foresee is a larger hard drive (gonna up my space to at least 300GB)
and take my memory up to maybe 3GB.
But nothing calls out 64bit right now, my P4 is compatible with 64bit but really I really dont need that much power.
My last major upgrade to this computer came in 2007 when I got this computer 1GB of ram.
Now that ram is cheaper then it was then I can max out to 4GB of ram on this computer.
But I wont, 3GB will be fine for now until I get myself a new computer in 2010.
All in all, 64bit is the way to go if you donât have that piece of grumpy HW that doesnât work in 64bit or no drivers are available for it. If this isnât the case, then go 64bit
Yeh the amount of hardware not compatible with 64bit is decreasing, but its still there.
But as I said 64bit is a rising star, give it another couple of years.
Yes, everything that seems so different to us is in fact made up from one and the same stuff, and is thus a different aspect of the same stuff. As the universe is considered a closed system, energy and matter do not get created or destroyed (thus the amount of it never increases or decreases but stays the same). They only get transformed into something else which gives to most peopleâs poor understanding the illusion that energy/matter is destroyed but if you look closer, it isnât so
Also I find it funny when some people respond to the simulation thing with âthatâs nonsense, everything I see is real and so are my experiences and feelingâ. Duhhhhhh thatâs the point, dummy! If youâre only a tiny element of a gigantic simulation constructed in a specific way, what else would you expect when the simulation doesnât give away the fact that itâs a simulation? Also, you are a part of that very same simulation, what else do you expect? You do not look at it from the outside and you cannot escape it either
As for Windows itself, it has improved a lot compared to the old days of Win95/98. The NT kernel is a pretty solid one. Itâs the userspace on top of it and the years and years of compatibility layers that cause a lot of headaches and of course the inefficient registry ![]()
@Taraldega
What can I say? Youâll keep arguing that 32bit is better even if a gazillion people say itâs not. I see little point in continuing this convo. As I said earlier, if you donât have some exotic piece of HW that lacks 64bit drivers, thereâs no reason why not to choose 64bit. Java works, Flash works, and youâre being paranoid 
I am not suggesting 32bit is better, but I am suggesting that for some 32bit might be more suitable.
Again I get taken out of context here, I never once said 32bit was better I am just trying to say for most 32bit might be more suitable when considering software and hardware compatibility.
the same drivers that are in a 32bit kernel are also present in a 64bit Linux kernel. All external drivers one needs can be built under a 64bit environment. Thereâs not a single piece of Linux software that wonât run under 64bit and if it needs 32bit libs for some odd reason, those are easily installable. The only reason why one would choose for 32bit is due to either having a 32bit cpu, little RAM or having some really strange obsolete HW that for whatever odd reason just canât be made to run under 64bit. Do you have such piece of HW? If not and you have a 64bit cpu, go for 64bit. I donât know how else to explain it to you. 64bit Linux is very mature. For most 64bit will do just fine if they donât have the above oddball HW
The extra ram used by 64-bit pointers is insignificant, especially in linux. A (slightly) bigger problem is that youâll probably need or want to run some software thatâs 32-bit only, and so youâll find yourself installing both 32-bit and 64-bit versions of some of the same libraries for compatibility. Thatâs still not a big deal.
Iâve been a beta tester for a good time now. However, I could not never understand this debate on 32/64 bit. So this time I decided to leap to 64-bit and therefore brought up this noob question.
If you wish a stable openSUSE, then IMHO openSUSE-11.1 is the way to go. In November this year, when openSUSE-11.2 is released as a GM version, it could be safely installed then, ⌠although it may be better to wait until February-2010, and only then install openSUSE-11.2.
Feb is a long way to go. D/L 11.1 now. Since I am going to get E17 installed (which itself is like alpha not even beta) so I am avoiding the 11.2
Nice one!!
I believer anyone who uses Linux is intelligent enough to find the right stuff for 64bit either himself or through the great community support ![]()
Donât mind but those surely looks like old specs. May be thatâs why you are still skeptical about 64-bit knowing everuthing about this debatical topic. I am sure once you upgrade your system in 2010 your views will change. I am now an evangelist for 64bit Linux ![]()