21st Oct - project meeting - question about amarok 2.2?

they haven’t pinned the transcript yet, so i’m hoping someone hear knows the answer.

the question was about whether amarok 2.2 would be included in opensuse 11.2 as a late addition, i just want to know what the official response is since the openfate request on the same topic remains unanswered as yet?

and before you trot out the party line about no changes after freeze… i know, and more importantly i know that some changes DO happen:
Factory/News - openSUSE

many thanks


Dimble_ThriceFoon, thanks for posting the link. I did not know there was a newer version of K3b and it will be in RC2. It is possible that you might see the newer version of Amarok, I think it depends on how stable it is. At this stage of development the main focus is on bug fixes but Amarok is such a popular application they might just make an exception. We will just have to wait and see what the Developer’s decide. :slight_smile:

After looking through the repo, it looks like there is a lot to look forward to in RC2. It looks like the Developers are refining the system and fixing the remaining bugs. I am really looking forward to 11.2 KDE RC2.

considering 2.2 is going to be a more stable version and maintained for longer than 4 months (like 1.4 was) I would be shocked if it doesn’t get pulled in, it’s more stable than 2.1, has a refined UI, feature polarity (almost) with 1.4 and just feels like a polished KDE 4 project. I can’t say the same about K3B, which is just falling behind (2 years of development should have been enough to port it, considering few features were added)

I don’t know for certain, but I highly doubt Amarok 2.2 will make it. Three reasons make me doubt it.

  1. The oS 11.2 KDE Ideas page in the openSUSE wiki has said “no 2.2” concerning Amarok for a couple months now at least.

  2. Most of the late updates like Konversation, K3B, Seamonkey, GNOME…are pieces that had development versions all along (or are still in development). They used early versions because they will considerably ease the maintainability of openSUSE 11.2 for the next 18 months compared to the versions they are replacing (Thunderbird 3 vs Thunderbird 2 is a great example).

  3. Amarok 2.2 is already in the KDE Backports repo for oS 11.2. Now if I was planning on including a piece of software in a release…first off, I wouldn’t even have a populated “Backport” repo at this stage of the process. More importantly 11.2 is branched, and Factory isn’t being built right now in the OBS in order to get all the 11.2 stuff online…there’s effectively no further ahead version of openSUSE to backport from*…yet there’s a populated Backport repo?

I wouldn’t count on seeing Amarok 2.2.0 included in the official release.

*As of this post’s writing, the version of Amarok in Factory is 2.1.1 while the “backport” version is 2.2.0.

Amarok 2.2 definitely will not be in openSUSE 11.2. Relevant transcript bits:

16:18:46 <henne> #topic Questions & Answers
16:18:52 <henne> first from the wiki
16:19:06 <henne> georgm asks if we will include amarok 2.2 in 11.2
16:19:45 <michl> wstephenson: can you comment on that?
16:19:55 <henne> or rather asks if we will revise the decision not to
16:20:23 <suseROCKs> Was there an issue with 2.2?
16:20:37 <henne> no. its just the newest
16:20:45 <suseROCKs> ok
16:21:09 <bitshuffler> suseROCKs: e.g. 2.1 messes up collections for some (but I don’t know the details) which should be fixed in 2.2
16:22:21 <henne> Beineri: how about an answer for a change? :wink:
16:22:36 <henne> whats your take on that questions?
16:22:37 <henne> -s
16:22:38 * Beineri throws a “no, 11.2 is version frozen” in the round
16:22:52 <michl> Beineri: sounds like a valid answer
16:23:01 <henne> sounds like a very valid answer
16:23:11 <suseROCKs> sounds like an extremely very valid answer
16:23:20 <Beineri> despite 2.2 brings other troubles/missing: lastfm, shoutcast, …
16:23:34 <henne> #info @ georgm Beineri: no, 11.2 is version frozen
16:23:54 <henne> #info @ georgm Beineri: despite 2.2 brings other troubles/missing: lastfm, shoutcast, …
16:24:24 <Beineri> #info Amarok 2.2 is in KDE:Backports repository

Full meeting transcript

cheers for the info peeps.