I can confirm on my remote machine running OpenSuse, the drowngrade issue is no longer a present issue, it now only suggests to upgrade 76 packages.
As you said, itâs important to always double-check the answers you get from a LLM. An LLM is not a subject matter expert. I find that they are more useful if you have experience to draw on and just need a nudge in the right direction. Coming at something with no knowledge, itâs hard to determine if itâs giving you accurate information or if itâs hallucinating.
So when using a LLM, never take what it says as authoritative if you donât know anything about what you asked it to explain.
And I would add, when asking about Tumbleweed specifically they are most likely to give outdated information sourced from past material on the net (remember, Tumbleweed rolls, much faster than somebody thinks at times)
100% - usually LLMs (even the online ones) have knowledge thatâs over a year out of date. Some of them can search, but many of the popular ones donât by default (or unless you pay for them).
I run a local LLM, and its knowledge cut-off is (as I recall) 3 years ago.
I love your reply @bperris
I will continue my openSUSE journey as soon as I can find time to reinstall my Laptop and later on my DesktopâŚ
For me doesnât seem as bad as what people described here, but Iâm getting these 2 suspicious downgrades:
The following 2 packages are going to be downgraded:
fuse-overlayfs 1.15-42.1 -> 1.14-41.6 x86_64 Filesystem tools and FUSE-related packages (openSUSE_Tumbleweed) obs://build.opensuse.org/filesystems
wine-mono 9.4.0-1.7 -> 9.4.0-1.3 noarch openSUSE-Tumbleweed-Non-Oss openSUSE
That is a different issue - itâs a suggestion for a repository change. You should ask about that in your own topic rather than here. ![]()
That is why its good to ask the same question between a few of them, in general, I am not always looking the one and only answer to solve all problems in the world, just just the pattern of things, I brain storm my own ideas while using the LLM to get back information in the mix of my personal conversation. Then I follow the Linux trending topics on news sites and social media to pick up on new things people are doing that most LLMs wouldnât have much information on in their data models.
Thatâs a reasonably good approach. I posted my caution largely because Iâve spent the past several years working with LLMs and watching how people misunderstand how to actually use them effectively - and far too many instances of taking what it says as 100% accurate and true and people just following blindly what the LLM says.
And then having to help people pick up the pieces when the advice was incorrect, destroying a system that could have been fixed pretty easily.
Not just in tech, either. In my âday jobâ, I see the technology used improperly a lot, and I spend time in an industry group that has some focus on how to use the technology correctly (and the risks of using it at all for what we do), ensuring thereâs a âhuman in the loopâ at every step for those who do use it.
That said, going down the rabbit-hole of appropriate use of LLMs in this discussion is off-topic, so we should just leave it here. The caution is (in my estimation) warranted, but a drawn-out discussion isnât (in this specific discussion).
Seems to be all fixed now, updated with main repo ![]()
This is what i see now
No really. I still have 476 packages that want to be downgraded.
The funny things is, when I visit cdn.opensuse.org and look for these packages I find 2 versions of these packages. The one I have installed and the older one it wants to downgrade too.
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