2 freezes on tumbleweed...

But you really should.

1.7 GiB RAM is on the very low side nowadays, especially if you want to use a full-blown desktop environment like GNOME (or also KDE’s Plasma).
And if there’s no swap, there’s not even an emergency gap any more if the RAM runs out, or a place to temporarily move things to to keep more RAM available.

Hi
I have many real systems here (not VM’s), I use Tumbleweed, openSUSE 42.1, openSUSE 42.2, SLES 12 SP1, SLED 12 SP1, SLED 12 SP2 GMC, dual boots, multibooting, Legacy Booting, UEFI booting… :wink:

Can you please show a process screenshot and cpu order to show what is using RAM and/or cpu.

If you want I can probably dig up a laptop from my junk pile with the same celeron cpu, stick 2 gb of RAM in and see if can duplicate.

thx wolfi!

how much ram to enable swap file ?


i’m startin to think OpenS is for modern equipment with at least 8 gb ram …

plz, i appreciate it !

Depends.
If it’s as large as your RAM at least, you will also be able to use hibernate.

Personally I run openSUSE with 2 GiB RAM and 2 GiB swap, works fine for me (KDE4 and Plasma5 mostly, sometimes I even run both at the same time :wink: ).

i’m startin to think OpenS is for modern equipment with at least 8 gb ram …

Not necessarily.
But it depends on what you want to run on it.
Firefox alone can easily take 1 or 2 GiB of RAM (or even more I suppose if you have many tabs open)

The officially recommended minimum for openSUSE is 1 GiB RAM currently, but it is possible to run it in less, especially in text mode you may have enough with 128/256 MiB…

I do all of my test installs in VMs with 768 MiB RAM, and they work fine too (I don’t use them for real work though).

But I wouldn’t dare to disable swap… :wink:

Of course another option for you would also to stick to a simpler desktop, then you might be able to get away without swap.

Hi
See how you go with some swap, I have a Toshiba 655 with a B960 CPU @2.2GHz if I get time later on will look at sticking Tumbleweed and remove some RAM (it has 4GB).

this article is pertinent ?

https://wiki.manjaro.org/index.php?title=Add_a_/swapfile

Yes, should be.

Though I never used a swapfile myself, I have dedicated swap partitions.

Hi !

what’s is **Web Content **?

can kill it or erase it (and how) ; is wasting more than FF (260 mb)

swap til now is between 1.3 -1.4 on wayland

now on Xorg

https://4-t.imgbox.com/p6abKpBD.jpg](http://imgbox.com/p6abKpBD)

???

From the followup post I suppose you mean what that “Web Content” process is for?

I suppose it’s some process started by Firefox.
As I said, Firefox can easily take a GiB or more of RAM.

can kill it or erase it (and how) ; is wasting more than FF (260 mb)

Well, if you want to do web browsing, you probably shouldn’t kill it.
Quit Firefox and it should disappear I think.

swap til now is between 1.3 -1.4 on wayland

See?
This would all have to be in RAM otherwise, and you only have 1.7 GiB.

Hi
It is part of firefox run the command;


pstree -p `pidof firefox`

On Wed 26 Oct 2016 04:36:01 PM CDT, goro goren wrote:

malcolmlewis;2797522 Wrote:
>
>
> If you want I can probably dig up a laptop from my junk pile with the
> same celeron cpu, stick 2 gb of RAM in and see if can duplicate

plz, i appreciate it !

Hi
So test system setup, uses 52% of 1.8GB of ram available, cpu cores
running around 6% have firefox running (no flash…!) no lockups or
anything…


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On Wed 26 Oct 2016 04:36:01 PM CDT, goro goren wrote:

malcolmlewis;2797522 Wrote:
>
>
> If you want I can probably dig up a laptop from my junk pile with the
> same celeron cpu, stick 2 gb of RAM in and see if can duplicate

plz, i appreciate it !

Hi
So can your system RAM be added too, upgraded?

As root user (may need to install) run dmidecode.


dmidecode -t memory


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for now upgrade is not an option (maybe later) . . .

i no i can get till 16 **GB of ram **

# dmidecode -t memory
# dmidecode 3.0
Getting SMBIOS data from sysfs.
SMBIOS 2.7 present.

Handle 0x0005, DMI type 5, 20 bytes
Memory Controller Information
    Error Detecting Method: None
    Error Correcting Capabilities:
        None
    Supported Interleave: One-way Interleave
    Current Interleave: One-way Interleave
    Maximum Memory Module Size: 8192 MB
    Maximum Total Memory Size: 16384 MB
    Supported Speeds:
        Other
    Supported Memory Types:
        Other
    Memory Module Voltage: Unknown
    Associated Memory Slots: 2
        0x0006
        0x0007
    Enabled Error Correcting Capabilities:
        None

Handle 0x0006, DMI type 6, 12 bytes
Memory Module Information
    Socket Designation: DIMM0
    Bank Connections: None
    Current Speed: Unknown
    Type: DIMM
    Installed Size: Not Installed
    Enabled Size: Not Installed
    Error Status: OK

Handle 0x0007, DMI type 6, 12 bytes
Memory Module Information
    Socket Designation: DIMM1
    Bank Connections: None
    Current Speed: Unknown
    Type: DIMM
    Installed Size: 2048 MB (Single-bank Connection)
    Enabled Size: 2048 MB (Single-bank Connection)
    Error Status: OK

Handle 0x0018, DMI type 16, 23 bytes
Physical Memory Array
    Location: System Board Or Motherboard
    Use: System Memory
    Error Correction Type: None
    Maximum Capacity: 16 GB
    Error Information Handle: Not Provided
    Number Of Devices: 2

Handle 0x0019, DMI type 17, 34 bytes
Memory Device
    Array Handle: 0x0018
    Error Information Handle: Not Provided
    Total Width: Unknown
    Data Width: Unknown
    Size: No Module Installed
    Form Factor: DIMM
    Set: None
    Locator: DIMM0
    Bank Locator: BANK 0
    Type: Unknown
    Type Detail: Unknown
    Speed: Unknown
    Manufacturer: Empty
    Serial Number: Empty
    Asset Tag: Unknown
    Part Number: Empty
    Rank: Unknown
    Configured Clock Speed: Unknown

Handle 0x001A, DMI type 17, 34 bytes
Memory Device
    Array Handle: 0x0018
    Error Information Handle: Not Provided
    Total Width: 64 bits
    Data Width: 64 bits
    Size: 2048 MB
    Form Factor: SODIMM
    Set: None
    Locator: DIMM1
    Bank Locator: BANK 2
    Type: DDR3
    Type Detail: Synchronous
    Speed: 1333 MHz
    Manufacturer: Hynix
    Serial Number: 47C7CE76
    Asset Tag: Unknown
    Part Number: HMT325S6CFR8C-H9  
    Rank: 1
    Configured Clock Speed: 1333 MHz

Hi

for now i’m usin icewm (1.2 GB and 0 bytes of swap) STILL too much high just FF with seven tabs open ] >>>>:(

i’m goin to download Ubuntu / opensuse CD gnome and give a test so stay tuned !

On Thu 27 Oct 2016 04:06:01 PM CDT, goro goren wrote:

Hi

for now upgrade is not an option (maybe later) . . .

i no i can get till 16 GB_of_ram_

Manufacturer: Hynix
Part Number: HMT325S6CFR8C-H9

Hi
If you want some extra RAM, I have some 2GB ones lying around you can
have, just PM me where to send…

Hynix HMT325S6BFR8C-H9
2GB 1Rx8 PC3 - 10600S - 9 -10 - B1


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