13.2 x64 RC1 booting slowly. Want to know what's going on before filing a bug.

Incidentally, my PCI based WiFi isn’t connecting anymore either.

Welcome to openSUSE 20141002 (Harlequin) (x86_64)!  
  OK  ] Stopped Switch Root. 
  OK  ] Stopped target Switch Root. 
  OK  ] Stopped target Initrd File Systems.          Stopping File System Check on /dev/disk/by-uuid/cf0653d6-2c35-4528-98e7-366082f870e7... 
  OK  ] Stopped File System Check on /dev/disk/by-uuid/cf0653d6-2c35-4528-98e7-366082f870e7.   OK  ] Removed slice system-systemd\x2dfsck.slice. 
  OK  ] Stopped target Initrd Root File System.          Starting Collect Read-Ahead Data...          Starting Replay Read-Ahead Data... 
  OK  ] Created slice User and Session Slice. 
  OK  ] Created slice system-getty.slice. 
  OK  ] Reached target System Time Synchronized. 
  OK  ] Reached target Remote File Systems (Pre).          Starting Create dynamic rule for /dev/root link... 
  OK  ] Reached target Slices. 
  OK  ] Listening on Delayed Shutdown Socket. 
  OK  ] Listening on /dev/initctl Compatibility Named Pipe. 
  OK  ] Stopped Trigger Flushing of Journal to Persistent Storage. 
  OK  ] Reached target Remote File Systems.          Stopping Journal Service... 
  OK  ] Stopped Journal Service.          Starting Journal Service... 
  OK  ] Started Journal Service. 
  OK  ] Reached target Paths.          Mounting Debug File System... 
  OK  ] Set up automount Arbitrary Executable File Formats File System Automount Point.          Starting Create list of required static device nodes for the current kernel...          Mounting POSIX Message Queue File System...          Mounting Huge Pages File System... 
  OK  ] Listening on Device-mapper event daemon FIFOs.          Starting Device-mapper event daemon... 
  OK  ] Listening on LVM2 metadata daemon socket.          Starting LVM2 metadata daemon...          Expecting device dev-disk-by\x2duuid-3e4c5281\x2dfd2b\x2d4f34\x2d93ce\x2d1717ac28ff53.device... 
  OK  ] Listening on udev Kernel Socket. 
  OK  ] Listening on udev Control Socket.          Starting udev Coldplug all Devices...          Expecting device dev-disk-by\x2duuid-848D\x2d7B0B.device...          Expecting device dev-disk-by\x2duuid-acdd94c1\x2da7ef\x2d4ba8\x2da6d3\x2dc5f5b97989c8.device...          Expecting device dev-disk-by\x2duuid-cf0653d6\x2d2c35\x2d4528\x2d98e7\x2d366082f870e7.device... 
  OK  ] Started Create list of required static device nodes for the current kernel.          Starting Create static device nodes in /dev... 
  OK  ] Started Collect Read-Ahead Data. 
  OK  ] Started Device-mapper event daemon. 
  OK  ] Started Replay Read-Ahead Data.          Starting Load Kernel Modules...          Starting Remount Root and Kernel File Systems... 
  OK  ] Started Create dynamic rule for /dev/root link. 
  OK  ] Started LVM2 metadata daemon. 
  OK  ] Started Load Kernel Modules.          Starting Apply Kernel Variables... 
  OK  ] Started udev Coldplug all Devices.          Starting udev Wait for Complete Device Initialization... 
  OK  ] Started Create static device nodes in /dev.          Starting udev Kernel Device Manager... 
  OK  ] Started udev Kernel Device Manager. 
  OK  ] Started Apply Kernel Variables. 
  OK  ] Created slice system-systemd\x2dbacklight.slice. 
  OK  ] Created slice system-systemd\x2drfkill.slice. 
  OK  ] Mounted Debug File System. 
  OK  ] Mounted POSIX Message Queue File System. 
  OK  ] Mounted Huge Pages File System. 
  OK  ] Started Remount Root and Kernel File Systems.          Starting Load/Save RF Kill Switch Status of rfkill2...          Starting Load/Save RF Kill Switch Status of rfkill1...          Starting Load/Save RF Kill Switch Status of rfkill0...          Starting Load/Save Screen Backlight Brightness of backlight:intel_backlight...          Starting Load/Save Random Seed... 
  OK  ] Reached target Local File Systems (Pre). 
  OK  ] Started Load/Save Random Seed.          Starting Entropy Daemon based on the HAVEGE algorithm... 
  OK  ] Started Entropy Daemon based on the HAVEGE algorithm. 
  OK  ] Started Load/Save Screen Backlight Brightness of backlight:intel_backlight. 
  OK  ] Started Load/Save RF Kill Switch Status of rfkill2. 
  OK  ] Started Load/Save RF Kill Switch Status of rfkill0. 
  OK  ] Started Load/Save RF Kill Switch Status of rfkill1. 
  OK  ] Found device TOSHIBA_MQ01ABD1.          Mounting /.snapshots...          Mounting /var/tmp...          Mounting /var/spool...          Mounting /var/opt...          Mounting /var/log...          Mounting /var/lib/pgsql...          Mounting /var/lib/named...          Mounting /var/lib/mailman...          Mounting /var/crash...          Mounting /usr/local...          Mounting /tmp...          Mounting /srv...          Mounting /opt...          Mounting /boot/grub2/x86_64-efi...          Mounting /boot/grub2/i386-pc... 
  OK  ] Mounted /opt. 
  OK  ] Mounted /srv. 
  OK  ] Mounted /tmp. 
  OK  ] Mounted /usr/local. 
  OK  ] Mounted /var/crash. 
  OK  ] Mounted /var/lib/mailman. 
  OK  ] Mounted /var/lib/named. 
  OK  ] Mounted /var/lib/pgsql. 
  OK  ] Mounted /var/log. 
  OK  ] Mounted /var/opt. 
  OK  ] Mounted /var/spool. 
  OK  ] Mounted /var/tmp. 
  OK  ] Mounted /.snapshots. 
  OK  ] Found device TOSHIBA_MQ01ABD1. 
  OK  ] Found device TOSHIBA_MQ01ABD1. 
  OK  ] Mounted /boot/grub2/i386-pc. 
  OK  ] Found device TOSHIBA_MQ01ABD1. 
  OK  ] Mounted /boot/grub2/x86_64-efi.          Mounting /home...          Mounting /boot/efi... 
  OK  ] Reached target Sound Card.          Activating swap /dev/disk/by-uuid/3e4c5281-fd2b-4f34-93ce-1717ac28ff53... 
  OK  ] Activated swap /dev/disk/by-uuid/3e4c5281-fd2b-4f34-93ce-1717ac28ff53. 
  OK  ] Reached target Swap. 
  OK  ] Mounted /boot/efi. 
  OK  ] Mounted /home. 
  OK  ] Started udev Wait for Complete Device Initialization.          Starting Load/Save RF Kill Switch Status of rfkill3...          Starting Activation of LVM2 logical volumes... 
  OK  ] Started Load/Save RF Kill Switch Status of rfkill3. 
  OK  ] Started Activation of LVM2 logical volumes. 
  OK  ] Reached target Encrypted Volumes.          Starting Activation of LVM2 logical volumes... 
  OK  ] Started Activation of LVM2 logical volumes. 
  OK  ] Reached target Local File Systems.          Starting Shadow /etc/init.d/boot.localfs... 
  OK  ] Started Shadow /etc/init.d/boot.localfs.          Starting LSB: Set default boot entry if called...          Starting Trigger Flushing of Journal to Persistent Storage...          Starting Tell Plymouth To Write Out Runtime Data...          Starting Create Volatile Files and Directories... 
  OK  ] Started Trigger Flushing of Journal to Persistent Storage. 
  OK  ] Started Tell Plymouth To Write Out Runtime Data. 
  OK  ] Started Create Volatile Files and Directories.          Starting LSB: AppArmor initialization...          Starting Security Auditing Service... 
  OK  ] Started LSB: Set default boot entry if called. 
  OK  ] Started Security Auditing Service.          Starting Update UTMP about System Reboot/Shutdown... 
  OK  ] Started LSB: AppArmor initialization. 
  OK  ] Started Update UTMP about System Reboot/Shutdown. 
  OK  ] Reached target System Initialization. 
  OK  ] Listening on D-Bus System Message Bus Socket. 
  OK  ] Listening on Avahi mDNS/DNS-SD Stack Activation Socket. 
  OK  ] Listening on Open-iSCSI iscsid Socket. 
  OK  ] Listening on PC/SC Smart Card Daemon Activation Socket. 
  OK  ] Reached target Sockets. 
  OK  ] Reached target Timers.          Starting Restore Sound Card State... 
  OK  ] Reached target Basic System.          Starting Bluetooth service...          Starting Machine Check Exception Logging Daemon... 
  OK  ] Started Machine Check Exception Logging Daemon.          Starting Avahi mDNS/DNS-SD Stack...          Starting Permit User Sessions...          Starting WPA Supplicant daemon...          Starting Name Service Cache Daemon...          Starting Modem Manager...          Starting irqbalance daemon... 
  OK  ] Started irqbalance daemon.          Starting SuSEfirewall2 phase 1...          Starting /etc/init.d/boot.local Compatibility...          Starting D-Bus System Message Bus...   OK  ] Started D-Bus System Message Bus. 
  OK  ] Started Avahi mDNS/DNS-SD Stack. 
  OK  ] Started Bluetooth service. 
  OK  ] Started WPA Supplicant daemon. 
  OK  ] Reached target Bluetooth. 
  OK  ] Started Restore Sound Card State. 
  OK  ] Started Permit User Sessions. 
  OK  ] Started /etc/init.d/boot.local Compatibility.          Starting Getty on tty1... 
  OK  ] Started Getty on tty1.   OK  ] Reached target Login Prompts.          Starting /etc/init.d/after.local Compatibility... 
  OK  ] Started /etc/init.d/after.local Compatibility.          Starting X Display Manager... 
*     ] (1 of 4) A start job is running for Name Service Cache Daemon (10s / 1min 35s) 
[K[**    ] (1 of 4) A start job is running for Name Service Cache Daemon (11s / 1min 35s) 
[K[***   ] (1 of 4) A start job is running for Name Service Cache Daemon (11s / 1min 35s) 
[K[ ***  ] (2 of 4) A start job is running for Modem Manager (12s / 1min 35s) 
[K[  *** ] (2 of 4) A start job is running for Modem Manager (12s / 1min 35s) 
[K[   ***] (2 of 4) A start job is running for Modem Manager (13s / 1min 35s) 
[K[    **] (3 of 4) A start job is running for SuSEfirewall2 phase 1 (13s / no limit) 
[K[     *] (3 of 4) A start job is running for SuSEfirewall2 phase 1 (14s / no limit) 
[K[    **] (3 of 4) A start job is running for SuSEfirewall2 phase 1 (14s / no limit) 
[K[   ***] (4 of 4) A start job is running for X Display Manager (15s / 1min 35s) 
[K[  *** ] (4 of 4) A start job is running for X Display Manager (15s / 1min 35s) 
[K[ ***  ] (4 of 4) A start job is running for X Display Manager (16s / 1min 35s) 
[K[***   ] (1 of 4) A start job is running for Name Service Cache Daemon (16s / 1min 35s) 
[K[**    ] (1 of 4) A start job is running for Name Service Cache Daemon (17s / 1min 35s) 
[K[*     ] (1 of 4) A start job is running for Name Service Cache Daemon (17s / 1min 35s) 
[K[**    ] (2 of 4) A start job is running for Modem Manager (18s / 1min 35s) 
[K[***   ] (2 of 4) A start job is running for Modem Manager (18s / 1min 35s) 
[K[ ***  ] (2 of 4) A start job is running for Modem Manager (19s / 1min 35s) 
[K[  *** ] (3 of 4) A start job is running for SuSEfirewall2 phase 1 (19s / no limit) 
[K[   ***] (3 of 4) A start job is running for SuSEfirewall2 phase 1 (20s / no limit) 
[K[    **] (3 of 4) A start job is running for SuSEfirewall2 phase 1 (20s / no limit) 
[K[     *] (4 of 4) A start job is running for X Display Manager (21s / 1min 35s) 
[K[    **] (4 of 4) A start job is running for X Display Manager (21s / 1min 35s) 
[K[   ***] (4 of 4) A start job is running for X Display Manager (22s / 1min 35s) 
[K[  *** ] (1 of 4) A start job is running for Name Service Cache Daemon (22s / 1min 35s) 
[K[ ***  ] (1 of 4) A start job is running for Name Service Cache Daemon (23s / 1min 35s) 
[K[***   ] (1 of 4) A start job is running for Name Service Cache Daemon (23s / 1min 35s) 
[K[**    ] (2 of 4) A start job is running for Modem Manager (24s / 1min 35s) 
[K[*     ] (2 of 4) A start job is running for Modem Manager (24s / 1min 35s) 
[K[**    ] (2 of 4) A start job is running for Modem Manager (25s / 1min 35s) 
[K[***   ] (3 of 4) A start job is running for SuSEfirewall2 phase 1 (25s / no limit) 
[K[ ***  ] (3 of 4) A start job is running for SuSEfirewall2 phase 1 (26s / no limit) 
[K[  *** ] (3 of 4) A start job is running for SuSEfirewall2 phase 1 (26s / no limit) 
[K[   ***] (4 of 4) A start job is running for X Display Manager (27s / 1min 35s) 
[K[    **] (4 of 4) A start job is running for X Display Manager (27s / 1min 35s) 
[K[     *] (4 of 4) A start job is running for X Display Manager (28s / 1min 35s) 
[K[    **] (1 of 4) A start job is running for Name Service Cache Daemon (28s / 1min 35s) 
[K[   ***] (1 of 4) A start job is running for Name Service Cache Daemon (29s / 1min 35s) 
[K[  *** ] (1 of 4) A start job is running for Name Service Cache Daemon (29s / 1min 35s) 
[K[ ***  ] (2 of 4) A start job is running for Modem Manager (30s / 1min 35s) 
[K[***   ] (2 of 4) A start job is running for Modem Manager (30s / 1min 35s) 
[K[**    ] (2 of 4) A start job is running for Modem Manager (31s / 1min 35s) 
[K[*     ] (3 of 4) A start job is running for SuSEfirewall2 phase 1 (31s / no limit) 
[K[**    ] (3 of 4) A start job is running for SuSEfirewall2 phase 1 (32s / no limit) 
[K[***   ] (3 of 4) A start job is running for SuSEfirewall2 phase 1 (32s / no limit) 
[K[ ***  ] (4 of 4) A start job is running for X Display Manager (33s / 1min 35s) 
[K[  *** ] (4 of 4) A start job is running for X Display Manager (33s / 1min 35s) 
[K[   ***] (4 of 4) A start job is running for X Display Manager (34s / 1min 35s) 
[K[    **] (1 of 4) A start job is running for Name Service Cache Daemon (34s / 1min 35s) 
[K[     *] (1 of 4) A start job is running for Name Service Cache Daemon (35s / 1min 35s) 
[K[    **] (1 of 4) A start job is running for Name Service Cache Daemon (35s / 1min 35s) 
[K[   ***] (2 of 4) A start job is running for Modem Manager (36s / 1min 35s) 
[K[  *** ] (2 of 4) A start job is running for Modem Manager (36s / 1min 35s) 
[K[ ***  ] (2 of 4) A start job is running for Modem Manager (37s / 1min 35s) 
[K[***   ] (3 of 4) A start job is running for SuSEfirewall2 phase 1 (37s / no limit) 
[K[**    ] (3 of 4) A start job is running for SuSEfirewall2 phase 1 (38s / no limit) 
[K[*     ] (3 of 4) A start job is running for SuSEfirewall2 phase 1 (38s / no limit) 
[K[**    ] (4 of 4) A start job is running for X Display Manager (39s / 1min 35s) 
[K[***   ] (4 of 4) A start job is running for X Display Manager (39s / 1min 35s) 
[K         Starting Hostname Service... 
[  OK  ] Started SuSEfirewall2 phase 1.          Starting Network Manager... 
  OK  ] Started Hostname Service.          Starting Authorization Manager... 
  OK  ] Started Name Service Cache Daemon. 
  OK  ] Reached target User and Group Name Lookups.          Starting Login Service... 
  OK  ] Reached target Host and Network Name Lookups. 
  OK  ] Started X Display Manager. 
  OK  ] Started Login Service. 

13.2 is still not released. This thread will be moved to the Pre-release/Beta forum, where the other testers will find your thread and you will find the other testers.

CLOSED for the moment.

Moved from Install/Boot/Login and open again.

Ok. Hopefully it’ll still be seen.

Sure, it is still seen.

On one computer, factory is slow starting. It doesn’t seem to affect other computers.

It looks to me as if it is the network (i.e. “wicked”). Instead of just initiating network start, it looks as if “systemd” is holding up other parts of startup until the network is up. I’m not sure why, as nothing much depends (other than user activity). I even reconfigured so that the network card would start “on cable connect” instead of “at boot time” but that did not make very much difference.

That bland gray unanimated “Plymouth” splash only exacerbates the problem, because it sure gives the appearance that nothing is happening for a long time.

Nope. Not being seen. Looks like there are substantial hangs on starting firewall and especially Modem Manager.

I am also experiencing slow boot time on my laptop (fresh install of 13.2 RC1 after a failed upgrade attempt :p)
Hope it gets fixed in RC2/13.2 :slight_smile:

On 2014-10-17 09:36, wyldwulf wrote:

> Hope it gets fixed in RC2/13.2 :slight_smile:

Only if you tell the devs.

Hint: we are not the devs.


Cheers / Saludos,

Carlos E. R.
(from 13.1 x86_64 “Bottle” at Telcontar)

Looks like there are substantial hangs on starting firewall and especially Modem Manager.

My laptop with an HP SSD hybrid disk, which has been updated via factory continually, boots lighting fast including network manager which was setup at the install config.

My desktop, with an SSD, with a fresh install, booted lighting fast until I switched to network manager from the install config of “Wicked” – added a couple seconds. Pauses until it gets the config right with my loaded wifi/ext modem.

Maybe I’ll leave “Wicked” at the next full install (although I don’t like the red X showing on my desktop network Icon which I got even with ext).

http://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=902779

You can get rid of that icon in the system tray settings. Right-click on the small up-arrow in the system tray (that shows the hidden icons) to reach them.
Either set the networkmanagement icon to “Hidden” in “Entries”, or turn it off completely in “Display”.

PS: sorry for being late, but your problem might actually be this:
https://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=891645

Can you try kernel 3.17 to see if it helps? It should be fixed there.

AFAIK the fix is going to be backported to 3.16 as well, but I’m not sure whether it will be in 13.2 GM already.

Similar situation here, apparently: booting takes about 2 minutes vs 40s or so with other Linuxes.
Upgraded to kernel 3.17.1 (Factory) saving only a couple seconds.
Since /home is mounted after 15.72s (kernel 3.17.1) or 16.49s (3.16.3) and other versions showed the desktop soon after that, the problem seems related to the 4 starting jobs that take forever:



  OK  ] Started Login Service.
***   ] (1 of 4) A start job is running for Avahi mDNS/DNS-SD Stack (21s / 1min 44s)
[K[ ***  ] (2 of 4) A start job is running for Modem Manager (22s / 1min 44s)
[K[  *** ] (2 of 4) A start job is running for Modem Manager (22s / 1min 44s)
[K[   ***] (2 of 4) A start job is running for Modem Manager (23s / 1min 44s)
[K[    **] (3 of 4) A start job is running for SuSEfirewall2 phase 1 (23s / no limit)
[K[     *] (3 of 4) A start job is running for SuSEfirewall2 phase 1 (24s / no limit)
[K[    **] (3 of 4) A start job is running for SuSEfirewall2 phase 1 (24s / no limit)
[K[   ***] (4 of 4) A start job is running for X Display Manager (25s / 1min 46s)
[K[  *** ] (4 of 4) A start job is running for X Display Manager (25s / 1min 46s)
[K[ ***  ] (4 of 4) A start job is running for X Display Manager (26s / 1min 46s)
[K[***   ] (1 of 4) A start job is running for Avahi mDNS/DNS-SD Stack (26s / 1min 44s)
[K[**    ] (1 of 4) A start job is running for Avahi mDNS/DNS-SD Stack (27s / 1min 44s)
[K[*     ] (1 of 4) A start job is running for Avahi mDNS/DNS-SD Stack (27s / 1min 44s)
[K[**    ] (2 of 4) A start job is running for Modem Manager (28s / 1min 44s)
[K[***   ] (2 of 4) A start job is running for Modem Manager (28s / 1min 44s)
[K[ ***  ] (2 of 4) A start job is running for Modem Manager (29s / 1min 44s)
[K[  *** ] (3 of 4) A start job is running for SuSEfirewall2 phase 1 (29s / no limit)
[K[   ***] (3 of 4) A start job is running for SuSEfirewall2 phase 1 (30s / no limit)
[K[    **] (3 of 4) A start job is running for SuSEfirewall2 phase 1 (30s / no limit)
[K[     *] (4 of 4) A start job is running for X Display Manager (31s / 1min 46s)
[K[    **] (4 of 4) A start job is running for X Display Manager (31s / 1min 46s)
[K[   ***] (4 of 4) A start job is running for X Display Manager (32s / 1min 46s)
[K[  *** ] (1 of 4) A start job is running for Avahi mDNS/DNS-SD Stack (32s / 1min 44s)
[K[ ***  ] (1 of 4) A start job is running for Avahi mDNS/DNS-SD Stack (33s / 1min 44s)
[K[***   ] (1 of 4) A start job is running for Avahi mDNS/DNS-SD Stack (33s / 1min 44s)
[K[**    ] (2 of 4) A start job is running for Modem Manager (34s / 1min 44s)
[K[*     ] (2 of 4) A start job is running for Modem Manager (34s / 1min 44s)
[K[**    ] (2 of 4) A start job is running for Modem Manager (35s / 1min 44s)
[K[***   ] (3 of 4) A start job is running for SuSEfirewall2 phase 1 (35s / no limit)
[K[ ***  ] (3 of 4) A start job is running for SuSEfirewall2 phase 1 (36s / no limit)
[K[  *** ] (3 of 4) A start job is running for SuSEfirewall2 phase 1 (36s / no limit)
[K[   ***] (4 of 4) A start job is running for X Display Manager (37s / 1min 46s)
[K[    **] (4 of 4) A start job is running for X Display Manager (37s / 1min 46s)
[K[     *] (4 of 4) A start job is running for X Display Manager (38s / 1min 46s)
[K[    **] (1 of 4) A start job is running for Avahi mDNS/DNS-SD Stack (38s / 1min 44s)
[K[   ***] (1 of 4) A start job is running for Avahi mDNS/DNS-SD Stack (39s / 1min 44s)
[K[  *** ] (1 of 4) A start job is running for Avahi mDNS/DNS-SD Stack (39s / 1min 44s)
[K[ ***  ] (2 of 4) A start job is running for Modem Manager (40s / 1min 44s)
[K[***   ] (2 of 4) A start job is running for Modem Manager (40s / 1min 44s)
[K[**    ] (2 of 4) A start job is running for Modem Manager (41s / 1min 44s)
[K[*     ] (3 of 4) A start job is running for SuSEfirewall2 phase 1 (41s / no limit)
[K[**    ] (3 of 4) A start job is running for SuSEfirewall2 phase 1 (42s / no limit)
[K[***   ] (3 of 4) A start job is running for SuSEfirewall2 phase 1 (42s / no limit)
[K[ ***  ] (4 of 4) A start job is running for X Display Manager (43s / 1min 46s)
[K[  *** ] (4 of 4) A start job is running for X Display Manager (43s / 1min 46s)
[K[   ***] (4 of 4) A start job is running for X Display Manager (44s / 1min 46s)
[K[    **] (1 of 4) A start job is running for Avahi mDNS/DNS-SD Stack (44s / 1min 44s)
[K[     *] (1 of 4) A start job is running for Avahi mDNS/DNS-SD Stack (45s / 1min 44s)
[K[    **] (1 of 4) A start job is running for Avahi mDNS/DNS-SD Stack (45s / 1min 44s)
[K[   ***] (2 of 4) A start job is running for Modem Manager (46s / 1min 44s)
[K[  *** ] (2 of 4) A start job is running for Modem Manager (46s / 1min 44s)
[K[ ***  ] (2 of 4) A start job is running for Modem Manager (47s / 1min 44s)
[K[***   ] (3 of 4) A start job is running for SuSEfirewall2 phase 1 (47s / no limit)
[K[**    ] (3 of 4) A start job is running for SuSEfirewall2 phase 1 (48s / no limit)
[K[*     ] (3 of 4) A start job is running for SuSEfirewall2 phase 1 (48s / no limit)
[K[**    ] (4 of 4) A start job is running for X Display Manager (49s / 1min 46s)
[K[***   ] (4 of 4) A start job is running for X Display Manager (49s / 1min 46s)
[K[ ***  ] (4 of 4) A start job is running for X Display Manager (50s / 1min 46s)
[K[  *** ] (1 of 4) A start job is running for Avahi mDNS/DNS-SD Stack (50s / 1min 44s)
[K[   ***] (1 of 4) A start job is running for Avahi mDNS/DNS-SD Stack (51s / 1min 44s)
[K[    **] (1 of 4) A start job is running for Avahi mDNS/DNS-SD Stack (51s / 1min 44s)
[K[     *] (2 of 4) A start job is running for Modem Manager (52s / 1min 44s)
[K[    **] (2 of 4) A start job is running for Modem Manager (52s / 1min 44s)
[K[   ***] (2 of 4) A start job is running for Modem Manager (53s / 1min 44s)
[K[  *** ] (3 of 4) A start job is running for SuSEfirewall2 phase 1 (53s / no limit)
[K[ ***  ] (3 of 4) A start job is running for SuSEfirewall2 phase 1 (54s / no limit)
[K[***   ] (3 of 4) A start job is running for SuSEfirewall2 phase 1 (54s / no limit)
[K[**    ] (4 of 4) A start job is running for X Display Manager (55s / 1min 46s)
[K[*     ] (4 of 4) A start job is running for X Display Manager (55s / 1min 46s)
[K[**    ] (4 of 4) A start job is running for X Display Manager (56s / 1min 46s)
[K[***   ] (1 of 4) A start job is running for Avahi mDNS/DNS-SD Stack (56s / 1min 44s)
[K[ ***  ] (1 of 4) A start job is running for Avahi mDNS/DNS-SD Stack (57s / 1min 44s)
[K[  *** ] (1 of 4) A start job is running for Avahi mDNS/DNS-SD Stack (57s / 1min 44s)
[K[   ***] (2 of 4) A start job is running for Modem Manager (58s / 1min 44s)
[K[    **] (2 of 4) A start job is running for Modem Manager (58s / 1min 44s)
[K[     *] (2 of 4) A start job is running for Modem Manager (59s / 1min 44s)
[K[    **] (3 of 4) A start job is running for SuSEfirewall2 phase 1 (59s / no limit)
[K[   ***] (3 of 4) A start job is running for SuSEfirewall2 phase 1 (1min / no limit)
[K[  *** ] (3 of 4) A start job is running for SuSEfirewall2 phase 1 (1min / no limit)
[K[ ***  ] (4 of 4) A start job is running for X Display Manager (1min 1s / 1min 46s)
[K[***   ] (4 of 4) A start job is running for X Display Manager (1min 1s / 1min 46s)
[K[**    ] (4 of 4) A start job is running for X Display Manager (1min 2s / 1min 46s)
[K[*     ] (1 of 4) A start job is running for Avahi mDNS/DNS-SD Stack (1min 2s / 1min 44s)
[K[**    ] (1 of 4) A start job is running for Avahi mDNS/DNS-SD Stack (1min 3s / 1min 44s)
[K[***   ] (1 of 4) A start job is running for Avahi mDNS/DNS-SD Stack (1min 3s / 1min 44s)
[K[ ***  ] (2 of 4) A start job is running for Modem Manager (1min 4s / 1min 44s)
[K[  *** ] (2 of 4) A start job is running for Modem Manager (1min 4s / 1min 44s)
[K         Starting Locale Service...


BTW this log is with LAN & WIFI hw-disabled (“Airplane mode”), no 3G dongle, bare standalone box.
Different wifi card here

[ 11.439519] iwl3945 0000:10:00.0: Detected Intel Wireless WiFi Link 3945ABG

and when enabled both kernels find the correct firmware; for 3.16.3

82.015889] iwl3945 0000:10:00.0: loaded firmware version 15.32.2.9

and for 3.17.1

77.873782] iwl3945 0000:10:00.0: loaded firmware version 15.32.2.9

I will report back if I find something else useful.

Got a record near 5 minutes boot this morning: does it keep growing with usage?

[K[     *] (4 of 4) A start job is running for X Display Manager (3min 25s / 4min 4s)
[K[    **] (4 of 4) A start job is running for X Display Manager (3min 25s / 4min 4s)
[K[   ***] (4 of 4) A start job is running for X Display Manager (3min 26s / 4min 4s)
[K[  *** ] (1 of 4) A start job is running for Avahi mDNS/DNS-SD Stack (3min 26s / 4min 1s)
[K[ ***  ] (1 of 4) A start job is running for Avahi mDNS/DNS-SD Stack (3min 27s / 4min 1s)
[K[***   ] (1 of 4) A start job is running for Avahi mDNS/DNS-SD Stack (3min 27s / 4min 1s)
[K[**    ] (2 of 4) A start job is running for Modem Manager (3min 28s / 4min 1s)
[K[*     ] (2 of 4) A start job is running for Modem Manager (3min 28s / 4min 1s)
[K[**    ] (2 of 4) A start job is running for Modem Manager (3min 29s / 4min 1s)
[K[***   ] (3 of 4) A start job is running for Network Manager (3min 29s / 4min 4s)
[K[ ***  ] (3 of 4) A start job is running for Network Manager (3min 30s / 4min 4s)
[K         Starting Locale Service...
[  OK  ] Started X Display Manager.
         Starting Authorization Manager...
         Starting Hostname Service...

I don’t think so. It is still at around 1 minute on my slowest booting system. (Ok, second slowest – I rarely boot the slowest so haven’t looked).

Back around the 11.4/12.1 time, we were led to believe that “systemd” would speed up booting. That has not worked out.

After hitting 5 minutes 17 s for boot, and 2 min+ shutdown that is even more puzzling, I reinstalled:

aaa-base
aaa-base-extras
avahi
ModemManager
NetworkManager
the whole X stuff

Now back to 2m 15s for boot, about 15s shutdown: still 3 times what other versions took, but at least survivable.
The delay seems more related to network stuff (iwl3945 firmware, bluetooth stack, 3G dongle-> ModemManager) than to X.

I saved dmesg and boot.log pre and post, should anyone be interested.

Back around the 11.4/12.1 time, we were led to believe that “systemd” would speed up booting. That has not worked out.

well, at least looks so :wink:

keep having fun,
Bruno

Well, the bug I pointed to would cause a 2 minute delay when loading firmware.
You might have the same problem, a quote from the bug report (comment#2):

  • my driver used is iwlwifi
    During boot, the driver fails to load the firmware (error -2), retries after 60s, fails, retries after 60s success, trying to pass on to ‘user space’

Hm, but then you already have tried kernel 3.17.1 where it should be fixed, right?
Then it’s probably a different thing…

Maybe “systemd-analyze blame” would point to what exactly takes so long?

well, at least looks so :wink:

Well, as (open)SUSE’s sysvinit started things already in parallel before systemd, the benefit from systemd starting things in parallel wasn’t that big I suppose. It might have more impact when compared to a sysvinit that starts things only in sequence.

But, in this case it is a bug that causes the slow boot (at least the one I pointed to). And it’s not even a bug in systemd.

Indeed my problem was not related to the bug (although I confirm using Kernel 3.17.1).

My problem is solved, at least for now. The delay was tracked down to two factors:

  • a systemd-journal that had been growing to more than 200MB and was likely taxing the small SATA-I disk on this box;
  • a 2m 57s timeout on udev to wait for “complete initialization of all devices”;
    The first one may be the cause of apparent degradation with use, and might be mitigated by tuning a cron job to empty the /var/log/journal directory from time to time.

I deleted everything within /var/log/journal and reinstalled udev.
Now up and running in about 45s, which is fair for this box.

Will report back should the problem show up again.

Keep having fun,
Bruno

Well, that problem in the bug report should actually be fixed with kernel 3.17.

My problem is solved, at least for now. The delay was tracked down to two factors:

  • a systemd-journal that had been growing to more than 200MB and was likely taxing the small SATA-I disk on this box;
  • a 2m 57s timeout on udev to wait for “complete initialization of all devices”;
    The first one may be the cause of apparent degradation with use, and might be mitigated by tuning a cron job to empty the /var/log/journal directory from time to time.

Oh. So it was (partly at least) related to the journal.
Hm, I have heard about such problems, but never had that here either. But on by btrfs system I do not have a on-disk systemd journal at all.
The other one (with a journal) uses reiserfs.

You shouldn’t mess around in /var/log/journal though I’d say. The maximum size can be specified in the config files (/etc/systemd/journald.conf).
Or, if you delete /var/log/journal (the directory), systemd will not even write a journal onto the disk.

If you install rsyslog or syslog-ng, you will just have a text log /var/log/messages (and some others) just like before systemd.

This is really weird! It seems that the system journal was getting filled with errors by Gnome-Clocks because I had not set a “home city” to show the local time (and of course this box has no GPS sensor to set the location).

Now the system journal seems growing at a more natural pace…

Thanks for the useful tips, anyway.

Bruno