Familiar problem with this series. K3B told me to insert
an empty DVD to which I thought, “why?” Suspected what was the answer
but knew only Brasero would give me a sensible diagnostic so installed
that and ran it. Got the answer I was expecting, DVD iso too big.
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Graham P Davis, Bracknell, Berks.
openSUSE 12.3-RC1 (64-bit); KDE 4.10.00; AMD Phenom II X2 550 Processor;
Video: nVidia GeForce 210 (using nouveau driver);
Sound: ATI SBx00 Azalia (Intel HDA); Wireless: BCM4306
It shows up as 4.4G in size. That should fit. Doesn’t a DVD take up to 4.7G?
In any case, I copied to a USB
# dd_rescue openSUSE-12.3-DVD-Build0094-x86_64.iso /dev/sdf
(Note that “dd” should also work, but “dd_rescue” does better error checking).
I did that copy without first running “isohybrid”.
It boots into the installer just fine on my Dell. And I can boot in either UEFI mode or MBR mode from that USB. That’s a good positive step.
I have not attempted an actual install - I’ll try that later today.
Also, the KDE live will boot to UEFI mode from a USB.
On Thu, 28 Feb 2013 16:36:01 GMT
nrickert <nrickert@no-mx.forums.opensuse.org> wrote:
> It shows up as 4.4G in size. That should fit. Doesn’t a DVD take up
> to 4.7G?
Depends how you count, in 1000s or 1024s. It’s 4,706,009,088 bytes,
compared with 4,698,669,056 for RC1.
>
> In any case, I copied to a USB
So did I also - I do both as DVD suits one PC and USB another - but one
PC won’t boot it correctly. I’m using it to install on a laptop OK but
the UEFI box keeps booting to the GRUB menu on MBR although I tell BIOS
to boot from the stick. I’ve done this before OK so I’m a bit baffled at
the moment.
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Graham P Davis, Bracknell, Berks.
openSUSE 12.3-RC1 (64-bit); KDE 4.10.00; AMD Phenom II X2 550 Processor;
Video: nVidia GeForce 210 (using nouveau driver);
Sound: ATI SBx00 Azalia (Intel HDA); Wireless: BCM4306
Make sure that you DO NOT run “isohybrid” on the iso file before writing to the USB.
The iso comes with a gpt partition structure, and “isohybrid” breaks that. It probably won’t UEFI boot if you used “isohybrid”. For me, it does UEFI boot without isohybrid.
On Thu, 28 Feb 2013 17:56:02 GMT
nrickert <nrickert@no-mx.forums.opensuse.org> wrote:
>
> Make sure that you DO NOT run “isohybrid” on the iso file before
> writing to the USB.
>
> The iso comes with a gpt partition structure, and “isohybrid” breaks
> that. It probably won’t UEFI boot if you used “isohybrid”. For me,
> it does UEFI boot without isohybrid.
>
>
I just use Imagewriter to write to the stick.
Booting the stick as “legacy” just went to the GRUB menu on the
machine’s hard-drive MBR so I enabled booting it as UEFI - just for fun
Now to try NET install from CD. That’s usually a failure for me but I’m
a glutton for punishment.
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Graham P Davis, Bracknell, Berks.
openSUSE 12.3-RC1 (64-bit); KDE 4.10.00; AMD Phenom II X2 550 Processor;
Video: nVidia GeForce 210 (using nouveau driver);
Sound: ATI SBx00 Azalia (Intel HDA); Wireless: BCM4306
It fits on a DVD-R (capacity 4,706,074,624 bytes), but not a DVD+R (capacity 4,700,372,992 bytes).
****. Just a couple of bytes ;(
Looks like the openqa check for isosize needs adaption, because it was green for the DVD.
DVD-R has 4,707,319,808 bytes, DVD+R has 4,700,372,992 bytes
Our DVD has 4706009088 bytes, so it only fits on DVD-R not on DVD+R (what an irony
So I need to remove another 6MB
Greetings, Stephan
Additional data was removed from the ISO so that they would now fit on DVD+R. This issue has now been resolved.
On Thu, 28 Feb 2013 20:56:02 +0000, eng-int wrote:
> Cloddy;2530780 Wrote:
>> It’s 4,706,009,088 bytes,
>> compared with 4,698,669,056 for RC1.
>>
>>
> It fits on a DVD-R (capacity 4,706,074,624 bytes), but not a DVD+R
> (capacity 4,700,372,992 bytes).
Yep, that’s been identified as the problem on the mailing list. They
need to pull 6 MB more of data off the image.
Jim
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Jim Henderson
openSUSE Forums Administrator
Forum Use Terms & Conditions at http://tinyurl.com/openSUSE-T-C
Seems like we did not check out this issue before RC2 got posted. Indeed I have wasted the download time and trying to make a copy on a DVD-DL disk. When we say the issue is fixed, is there a new DVD to download that works? Kind of crazy to make a DVD that can not be burned on RC2 I would say.
On Fri, 01 Mar 2013 00:06:01 +0000, jdmcdaniel3 wrote:
> Seems like we did not check out this issue before RC2 got posted. Indeed
> I have wasted the download time and trying to make a copy on a DVD-DL
> disk. When we say the issue is fixed, is there a new DVD to download
> that works?
> Kind of crazy to make a DVD that can not be burned on RC2 I would say.
The reason this happened is that there’s about a 7 MB difference in the
amount of space on a DVD-R and a DVD+R - if you burn to a DVD-R, it fits.
A DVD+R is actually smaller (Coolo posted what happened in the thread).
The DVD check passed QA, but it was using the larger of the two sizes.
Jim
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Jim Henderson
openSUSE Forums Administrator
Forum Use Terms & Conditions at http://tinyurl.com/openSUSE-T-C
There is a Build0095 starting to propagate accross the mirrors. The original RC2 is Build0094.
On 2013-03-01 01:36, eng-int wrote:
>
> jdmcdaniel3;2530913 Wrote:
>> is there a new DVD to download that works?
>
> There is a Build0095 starting to propagate accross the mirrors. The
> original RC2 is Build0094.
The metalink at the download page is still 0094
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Cheers / Saludos,
Carlos E. R.
(from 11.4, with Evergreen, x86_64 “Celadon” (Minas Tirith))
On 2013-02-28 18:02, Graham P Davis wrote:
> On Thu, 28 Feb 2013 16:36:01 GMT nrickert <> wrote:
>
>> > It shows up as 4.4G in size. That should fit. Doesn’t a DVD take up
>> > to 4.7G?
> Depends how you count, in 1000s or 1024s. It’s 4,706,009,088 bytes,
> compared with 4,698,669,056 for RC1.
Be aware that the official standard (IEEE, ISO) says that GB counts in
multiples of 10, ie 1GB=10^9. There is another unit, named “gibibyte”,
where 1 GiB=2^30
So the DVD above is 4.7GB = 4.4 GiB.
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Cheers / Saludos,
Carlos E. R.
(from 11.4, with Evergreen, x86_64 “Celadon” (Minas Tirith))
Well call me a grumpy grew, but such changes to Grub2 like working with Secure Boot and such should not be made on RC2. You are courting disaster with such changes at the end where DVD-R work and DVD+R do not work is just crazy. RC2 should (practically) be the end product with no changes and only bug fixes in place.
So I am running openSUSE 12.3 right now and I do like the new, but very dard, look. I notice that on startup I seem unable to break out of the new Plymouth, but that may be because I had trouble with the new grub even reading my keyboard and mouse. I had to plug and unplug the USB connection and finally, it started working. Since this is not a problem with openSUSE 12.2, it is a problem with the new Grub 2 in openSUSE 12.3. I have been able to install openSUSE 12.3 in grub-efi mode to an existing GPD formatted disk from my UEFI PC and it did work this time. So one major bug has been fixed since RC1 introduced it. I had no network on startup as my network connection was unconfigured and now I see that Network Manager does not start any more. I did a restart, but it still not come up. This will be a problem I suspect for wireless working unless configured with ifup.
Thank You,
I downloaded openSUSE-12.3-DVD-Build0094-x86_64.iso today, and burned it onto a DVD+R RW disk using K3b in 12.2 x86 kde3.5, without problem. Konquerer filemanager reports the iso size as 4.4 gigs (4,706,009,088 B).
Also installed successfully from this burned DVD, without issue. Don’t know what everyone’s problem is.
On 03/01/2013 10:16 PM, sorenson2743 wrote:
> Also installed successfully from this burned DVD, without issue. Don’t
> know what everyone’s problem i
Read again the thread, then. Look for the paragraphs about DVD +R and -R
sizes.
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Cheers/Saludos
Carlos E. R. (12.3 Dartmouth test at Minas-Anor)