Apparently grub legacy simply is not included on these CDs, so this is not possible.
How so? Do you have a quote for that?
There is nothing simple about it. The installer on the liveCD’s allows the user to configure legacy grub, to boot from the root partition, and for the boot partition to be in a logical/extended partition. Further more there is nothing in the RC1 announcement to support the comment “simply not included on these CD’s”.
I simply don’t understand what you meant by “not included on these CDs”. It’s not needed on the liveCD’s, but it should be installed onto the target partition in /usr/sbin/grub.
The openSUSE News/announcement links to Most Annoying Bugs for 12.3.RC1 which only reports that “Installations from Live CD do not include grub2 or plymouth branding”. Nothing about legacy grub, but I’m beginning to wonder what use are the liveCD’s if they don’t include any grub installations.
Live installation does not “install” anything. It simply copies content of Live CD to hard disk. If something is not present on Live CD, it won’t be present on hard disk. You can always install missing parts later.
Nothing about legacy grub, but I’m beginning to wonder what use are the liveCD’s if they don’t include any grub installations.
What makes you believe there is no grub? grub2 installs just fine from Live CD.
There is always something missing on Live CD. Of course it is a bug that installer allows to configure bootloader that it can not install. I do not argue with that. Or that it should be mentioned in release notes if this omission is intentional. But you can install Live CD using grub2 and switch to legacy grub later if desired.
<sigh>Whatever, it’s still installing a deficient copy of the system onto my HD.
Really, no kidding! :sarcastic:
Assuming of course the installed multi-boot survives the process of making the RC1 partition able to boot [with grub2 being the only real alternative].
Since I have multiple root partitions using legacy grub, the safest option is to install RC1 using the same grub. The only non-openSUSE partition is Win7. Without legacy grub included, and users having problems installing with grub2 from RC1 liveCD, the risk of disabling my installation effectively rules it out. Grub2 can boot a partition with legacy grub, but has it suddenly become possible for the other way round? Installing pre-release is no longer worth the risk here without legacy grub included.
In theory, maybe. Post #16 says you didn’t install [with grub2] from liveCD, right?
Enough time wasted on installing from liveCD’s, I might give the net install a go, at least I know the media is working for that. 
I installed from GNOME Live CD yesterday using grub2.
In any case, it pointless to argue or be angry with me. I’m just one of users and testers. I did not decide what is put on CD. I did spend my time testing your problem and trying to understand the root cause for it. I did suggest workaround. Do not make me feel like I have wasted my time.
As for most annoying bugs … it is Wiki, you know. What prevents you from going to this page and adding your bug to this list?
I’m not angry with you, and I understand all of that. However, having established that the installed target directory was deficient, I don’t need to be told that the liveCD is also deficient, since it should be obvious to anyone. Maybe you had seen some information about it, but no. I guess you didn’t mean it this way, but it could be interpreted as suggesting the rest of us are idiots. That can be irritating, but no offence taken, and no worries.
The developers should know instantly what is wrong, probably know why, and have someone’s bug report to act on. We wait and see for RC2 or release.
You haven’t wasted your time testing and reporting on grub2 with the liveCD. That is useful to everyone using this thread, thank you for doing it.
BTW, using legacy grub here is already a workaround. I don’t really want to do grub2 while I still have a main partition on 11.4 (changing it to 12.2 soonish).
Your point about the Wiki’s “Most Annoying Bugs” is unnecessary. I was under the impression it had something to do with severities assigned to bug reports, perhaps not. The main point is that the bug report for this problem only has a normal priority assigned. 
This is a BETA after all. The idea is to uncover the bugs for the final release. So you may have found one report it. Seems as if the installer on the cd allows selection of grun which is not available on the media. ergo 1) the installer should be fixed to not allow grub to be selected or 2) grub should be included.
No, it’s RC1 (Release Candidate). You obviously haven’t read back far enough. Someone reported it on 12th. I know. Are you testing or just bored? lol!
Still a beta in my book it is not the final release no mater how you parse it. Yes I have done some testing and found no problems so far
Bug #803401 - installation from live cd with grub1 doesn’t work has been accepted and resolved. Note the comment at the end from Stephan Kulow.
I suspected it had been removed deliberately, having recently had eyes on a factory mailing list thread about liveCD, lack of room, and missing stuff. As I prefer not to intrude on private grief, I won’t provide a link here for it. 
In my case, the install froze at the install or configure grub stage.
I always install grub in ‘/’ as I have a third party partitioning and booting utility.
Apparently, there are issues with installing grub 2 in a partition. In fact, Fedora 18 only allows for the install in the MBR. To install grub 2 in ‘/’ (Fedora 18) one must do it manually with the ‘–force’ parameter. The issue is to do with the space needed and the space available AIUI. I am a noob in these matters so don’t know if this is the issue here.
Regards
DrT