12.3 is up and running myway

installed 12.2 with Grub as 12.3 can not use my raid0 array.
installed all updates 12.2
installed kde4 10.2
installed latest kernel 3.5.8.x
installed nvidia driver 319.12
installed printing
installed libre office latest
installed vlc from download.videolan.org/pub/pub/pub/videolan/vlc/SuSe/12.2

then changed every entry in Yast configured Software Repositories from 12.2 to 12.3
then you have a form of control that the changed repositories exists

Then the update to 12.3
in Yast Software Manager view - repositories @System that is all what is installed
do a update All in the list / update if newer version available
this took 1/3 of the time to download the 12.3 iso

Then the moment of truth
REBOOT
12.3 is up and running :wink:

2 problems for changing runlevels in yast that depends on boot.localfs and boot.rootfsck which are not in init.d
I found them on internet with google search
make them with editor cut and paste from internet page
put them in /etc/init.d reboot
now you can change runlevels

that are the problems i found.

Exept the black outlook from Plymouth every thing is running the same way as 12.2
12.3 is a fraction slower in changing from boot to starting kde4
in 12.2 kde4 was started as boot was not finished so to speak
in 12.3 the boot proces has to be ended to start kde4 that is the delay i think

So in my view of things 12.3 is a minor upgrade to 12.2



   from sysinfo:/ 


  OS Information
  OS:  Linux 3.8.8-1-desktop x86_64
  Current user:  @@@@@@@@linux-ssd.site
  System:  openSUSE 12.3 (x86_64)
  KDE:  4.10.2 "release 556"
  Display Info
  Vendor:  nVidia Corporation
  Model:  GT520
  2D driver:  nvidia
  3D driver:  NVIDIA 319.12


CPU Information
Processor (CPU):   AMD FX(tm)-8120 Eight-Core Processor
  Speed:  3,600.00 MHz
  Cores:  8
  Memory Information
Total memory (RAM):  15.5 GiB
  Free memory:  12.4 GiB (+ 1.4 GiB Caches)
  Free swap:  2.0 GiB



On 2013-04-19 21:16, susegebr wrote:
>
> installed 12.2 with Grub as 12.3 can not use my raid0 array.
> installed all updates 12.2
> installed kde4 10.2
> installed latest kernel 3.5.8.x
> installed nvidia driver 319.12
> installed printing
> installed libre office latest
> installed vlc from
> download.videolan.org/pub/pub/pub/videolan/vlc/SuSe/12.2
>
>
> then changed every entry in Yast configured Software Repositories
> from 12.2 to 12.3
> then you have a form of control that the changed repositories exists
>
> Then the update to 12.3
> in Yast Software Manager view - repositories @System that is all
> what is installed
> do a update All in the list / update if newer version available
> this took 1/3 of the time to download the 12.3 iso
>
> Then the moment of truth
> REBOOT
> 12.3 is up and running :wink:

Advice to any reader: don’t do any of this. :expressionless:

> 2 problems for changing runlevels in yast that depends on
> boot.localfs and boot.rootfsck which are not in init.d
> I found them on internet with google search
> make them with editor cut and paste from internet page
> put them in /etc/init.d reboot
> now you can change runlevels

Oh my!

12.3 does not have those files, and that is intentional. You are
breaking your system. That it runs at all is merest luck.


Cheers / Saludos,

Carlos E. R.
(from 12.1 x86_64 “Asparagus” at Telcontar)

12.3 is a fraction slower

On a clean install 12.3 is faster than 12.2;)

On 2013-04-20 05:06, vazhavandan wrote:
>
>> 12.3 is a fraction slower
> On a clean install 12.3 is faster than 12.2;)

Not in heavy math, code is known to run even 7 times slower (libm fault).

However, if his system behaves badly after the upgrade, compared to a
clean install, it is because he did not do the upgrade in the documented
and recommended manner. 3 docs, two methods:

Online upgrade
method

Offline upgrade
method

Chapter 16. Upgrading the System and System Changes


Cheers / Saludos,

Carlos E. R.
(from 12.1 x86_64 “Asparagus” at Telcontar)

Am 20.04.2013 13:38, schrieb Carlos E. R.:
> Not in heavy math, code is known to run even 7 times slower (libm fault).

Only for some edge cases, in general that affects only software which
needs to calculate excessive amounts of sines, cosines, exp’s. This is a
very rare case, usually that part of programs is a microscopic fraction
of the arithmetic done and general arithmetic and its optimizations are
not affected.
I do a lot of numeric calculations and in general the difference between
12.2 and 12.3 is exactly zero (of course since that only depends on the
optimization capabilities of the compiler and how optimized the fft,
blas and son libraries are which you use and not on glibc functions).


PC: oS 12.3 x86_64 | i7-2600@3.40GHz | 16GB | KDE 4.10.0 | GTX 650 Ti
ThinkPad E320: oS 12.3 x86_64 | i3@2.30GHz | 8GB | KDE 4.10.0 | HD 3000
HannsBook: oS 12.3 x86_64 | SU4100@1.3GHz | 2GB | KDE 4.10.0 | GMA4500

Saw that thread. Do all s/w on standard installation use these libraries? I thought they were talking about some specific maths/scientific usage.

On 2013-04-20 14:06, vazhavandan wrote:
>
> robin_listas;2549351 Wrote:

>> Not in heavy math, code is known to run even 7 times slower (libm
>> fault).
>>
> Saw that thread. Do all s/w on standard installation use these
> libraries? I thought they were talking about some specific
> maths/scientific usage.

It seems to be some specific functions, yes. I have not seen a list of
affected functions, and how much each of them.

Yes, libm can be used by any standard application, but not many do those
operations in such a number as to be noticed.


Cheers / Saludos,

Carlos E. R.
(from 12.1 x86_64 “Asparagus” at Telcontar)

To all in this thread concerning maths/scientific

libm4 is not installed
on this system akonadi is not running nepomuk is not runing

this system is more like a chromebook
none of the bloated akonadi nepomuk kde programs is used

most programs i use run within the google browser so less overhead
gkrellm to check the inner working of the system and sensors
dit not install pulse audio thats good for gnome users

printing through HPLIB and google drive ( 2 tablets)

only 5 widgets cwp cpufreqdisplay clock network monitor Py Chasew

and to boot.localfs an boot.rootfsck have both chmod a+x
and are set B in runlevels

Why is there no tool to manage sytemd systemctl is funny to see but if you have no idea what systemd is then systemctl is one big questionmark
even systemadm does not do the job

thats why i say 12.3 is a minor upgrade
the real work has to be done before 13.1
so as a upgrade 12.3 can be a testbed

found 2 scripts nearbij systemd that enable a few services if i dont need them then how to get rid of them

It’s about libm, i.e. the system’s math library, not libm4…

Why is there no tool to manage sytemd systemctl is funny to see but if you have no idea what systemd is then systemctl is one big questionmark
even systemadm does not do the job

Well, enabling/disabling services in YaST Runlevel does still work.

And to be able to see the runlevel controls you need to have an /etc/inittab which isn’t there by default (you can copy it over from 12.2, f.e.).
I’m not sure how much effect the runlevel selection has, though…

On 2013-04-20 16:56, susegebr wrote:

> and to boot.localfs an boot.rootfsck have both chmod a+x
> and are set B in runlevels

Those two scripts can not work in 12.3, which has other tools replacing
them. You are breaking your system. Remove them immediately.

Yes, systemd is a work in progress and not everything works, or rather
works differently.

Yes, yast is broken in some places.


Cheers / Saludos,

Carlos E. R.
(from 12.1 x86_64 “Asparagus” at Telcontar)

On 2013-04-20 17:06, wolfi323 wrote:
> /etc/inittab which isn’t there by default (you can copy it over from
> 12.2, f.e.).

This is madness. Don’t do that.


Cheers / Saludos,

Carlos E. R.
(from 12.1 x86_64 “Asparagus” at Telcontar)

wolfi323

nowhere is a libm to be found

not installed
and not on the repositories

nothing to find

I wouldn’t exactly call it “madness”. I guess it’s ignored by systemd anyway. (can’t check right now, though)
YaST’s runlevel control will magically appear if you copy it over.

But I didn’t want to suggest this **should **be done.

It is installed for sure! Otherwise your system wouldn’t even boot.
Hint: It’s in the glibc package and installed in /lib (or /lib64 if you’re on 64bit)…:wink:



I wouldn't exactly call it "madness". I guess it's ignored by systemd anyway. (can't check right now, though)
YaST's runlevel control will magically appear if you copy it over.


without them you cannot change runlevels yast is complaining localfs is not there
put boot.localfs in then its complaining rootfsk is not there

thats why i put them in and everything works as it should

no difficulties with the system yast or what ever

Well, at least /etc/init.d/boot.localfs is ignored by systemd on 12.3 because it’s shadowed by localfs.service…
So it can’t cause problems.

(not sure about the other one, but I think I read somewhere that it is ignored as well)

but i found other anomalis



RAID set "pdc_hgfehahg" was activated
RAID set "pdc_hgfehahg" was not activated
Trying manual resume from /dev/disk/by-id/raid-pdc_hgfehahg-part2
Invoking userspace resume from /dev/disk/by-id/raid-pdc_hgfehahg-part2
resume: libgcrypt version: 1.5.0
Trying manual resume from /dev/disk/by-id/raid-pdc_hgfehahg-part2
Invoking in-kernel resume from /dev/disk/by-id/raid-pdc_hgfehahg-part2
Waiting for device /dev/disk/by-id/raid-pdc_hgfehahg-part3 to appear:  ok
fsck from util-linux 2.21.2
[/sbin/fsck.ext4 (1) -- /] fsck.ext4 -a /dev/mapper/pdc_hgfehahg-part3 
/dev/mapper/pdc_hgfehahg-part3: clean, 392009/14385152 files, 6086075/57539072 blocks
fsck succeeded. Mounting root device read-write.
Mounting root /dev/disk/by-id/raid-pdc_hgfehahg-part3
mount -o rw,noatime,nodiratime,discard,acl,user_xattr -t ext4 /dev/disk/by-id/raid-pdc_hgfehahg-part3 /root


Welcome to e[0;32mopenSUSE 12.3 (Dartmouth) (x86_64)e[0m!


         Starting Collect Read-Ahead Data...
         Starting Replay Read-Ahead Data...
[e[1;32m  OK  e[0m] Reached target Remote File Systems.
e[1;32m  OK  e[0m] Listening on Syslog Socket.
e[1;32m  OK  e[0m] Listening on udev Control Socket.
e[1;32m  OK  e[0m] Listening on udev Kernel Socket.
e[1;32m  OK  e[0m] Listening on Delayed Shutdown Socket.
e[1;32m  OK  e[0m] Listening on /dev/initctl Compatibility Named Pipe.
e[1;32m  OK  e[0m] Listening on udev Kernel Socket.
e[1;32m  OK  e[0m] Listening on udev Control Socket.
e[1;32m  OK  e[0m] Reached target Encrypted Volumes.
e[1;32m  OK  e[0m] Set up automount Arbitrary Executable File Formats File System Automount Point.
         Expecting device dev-disk-by\x2did-raid\x2dpdc_hgfehahg\x2dpart2.device...
         Expecting device dev-disk-by\x2did-ata\x2dST1000DM003\x2d1CH162_S1D3J8GP\x2dpart1.device...
         Expecting device dev-disk-by\x2did-raid\x2dpdc_hgfehahg\x2dpart1.device...
e[1;32m  OK  e[0m] Listening on Journal Socket.
         Starting LSB: Set default boot entry if called...
         Starting Create dynamic rule for /dev/root link...
         Starting create /dev/root symlink with dynamic rule...
         Mounting Huge Pages File System...
         Mounting POSIX Message Queue File System...
         Starting udev Coldplug all Devices...
         Starting Journal Service...
e[1;32m  OK  e[0m] Started Journal Service.
e[1;32m  OK  e[0m] Started Collect Read-Ahead Data.
e[1;32m  OK  e[0m] Started Replay Read-Ahead Data.
e[1;32m  OK  e[0m] Started Create dynamic rule for /dev/root link.
e[1;32m  OK  e[0m] Started LSB: Set default boot entry if called.
e[1;32m  OK  e[0m] Started create /dev/root symlink with dynamic rule.
e[1;32m  OK  e[0m] Mounted Huge Pages File System.
e[1;32m  OK  e[0m] Mounted POSIX Message Queue File System.
         Starting udev Kernel Device Manager...
         Starting Setup Virtual Console...
         Starting Load Kernel Modules...
         Starting Remount Root and Kernel File Systems...
e[1;32m  OK  e[0m] Started udev Kernel Device Manager.
         Starting LSB: start dmraid...
e[1;32m  OK  e[0m] Started udev Coldplug all Devices.
e[1;32m  OK  e[0m] Started Load Kernel Modules.
e[1;32m  OK  e[0m] Started Remount Root and Kernel File Systems.
         Starting Load Random Seed...
         Starting Apply Kernel Variables...
e[1;32m  OK  e[0m] Started Load Random Seed.
e[1;32m  OK  e[0m] Started Apply Kernel Variables.
         Starting Load Random Seed...
e%Ge[1;32m  OK  e[0m] Started Load Random Seed.
e[1;32m  OK  e[0m] Started Setup Virtual Console.
         Starting udev Coldplug all Devices...
e[1;32m  OK  e[0m] Found device /dev/disk/by-id/raid-pdc_hgfehahg-part2.
         Activating swap /dev/disk/by-id/raid-pdc_hgfehahg-part2...
e[1;32m  OK  e[0m] Found device /dev/disk/by-id/raid-pdc_hgfehahg-part1.
e[1;32m  OK  e[0m] Started udev Coldplug all Devices.
e[1;32m  OK  e[0m] Activated swap /dev/disk/by-id/raid-pdc_hgfehahg-part2.
e[1;32m  OK  e[0m] Reached target Swap.
         Starting Show Plymouth Boot Screen...
e[1;32m  OK  e[0m] Reached target Sound Card.
e[1;32m  OK  e[0m] Found device ST1000DM003-1CH162.
e[1;32m  OK  e[0m] Started Show Plymouth Boot Screen.
e[1;32m  OK  e[0m] Started LSB: start dmraid.
         Starting File System Check on /dev/disk/by-id/ata-ST1000DM003-1CH162_S1D3J8GP-part1...
         Starting File System Check on /dev/disk/by-id/raid-pdc_hgfehahg-part1...
e[1;32m  OK  e[0m] Reached target Local File Systems (Pre).
         Mounting Lock Directory...
         Mounting /sys/kernel/debug...
         Mounting Runtime Directory...
e[1;32m  OK  e[0m] Mounted Lock Directory.
e[1;32m  OK  e[0m] Mounted /sys/kernel/debug.
systemd-fsck[739]: /dev/mapper/pdc_hgfehahg-part1: clean, 368/40000 files, 116131/159744 blocks
e[1;32m  OK  e[0m] Mounted Runtime Directory.
e[1;32m  OK  e[0m] Started File System Check on /dev/disk/by-id/raid-pdc_hgfehahg-part1.
         Mounting /boot...
e[1;32m  OK  e[0m] Mounted /boot.
e[1;32m  OK  e[0m] Reached target Local File Systems.
         Starting Tell Plymouth To Write Out Runtime Data...
         Starting Recreate Volatile Files and Directories...
         Starting Trigger Flushing of Journal to Persistent Storage...
systemd-fsck[738]: /dev/sdc1: clean, 9541/61054976 files, 5918433/244190208 blocks
e[1;32m  OK  e[0m] Started Tell Plymouth To Write Out Runtime Data.
e[1;32m  OK  e[0m] Started Recreate Volatile Files and Directories.
e[1;32m  OK  e[0m] Reached target System Initialization.
         Starting Restore Sound Card State...
         Starting Console System Startup Logging...
e[1;32m  OK  e[0m] Listening on PC/SC Smart Card Daemon Activation Socket.
e[1;32m  OK  e[0m] Listening on Avahi mDNS/DNS-SD Stack Activation Socket.
e[1;32m  OK  e[0m] Listening on CUPS Printing Service Sockets.
e[1;32m  OK  e[0m] Listening on D-Bus System Message Bus Socket.
e[1;32m  OK  e[0m] Reached target Sockets.
e[1;32m  OK  e[0m] Reached target Basic System.
         Starting Configure Plugged-In Printer...
e[1;32m  OK  e[0m] Started Configure Plugged-In Printer.
         Starting LSB: Framebuffer setup...
         Starting CUPS Printing Service...
e[1;32m  OK  e[0m] Started CUPS Printing Service.
e[1;32m  OK  e[0m] Reached target Printer.
         Starting Haveged Entropy Gathering Daemon...
e[1;32m  OK  e[0m] Started Haveged Entropy Gathering Daemon.
         Starting LSB: Script infrastructure to enable/disable certain power management functions...
         Starting Avahi mDNS/DNS-SD Stack...
         Starting LSB: Configure network interfaces and set up routing...
         Starting System Logging Service...
         Starting Login Service...
e[1;32m  OK  e[0m] Started File System Check on /dev/disk/by-id/ata-ST1000DM003-1CH162_S1D3J8GP-part1.
e[1;32m  OK  e[0m] Started Restore Sound Card State.
e[1;32m  OK  e[0m] Started Console System Startup Logging.
e[1;32m  OK  e[0m] Started LSB: Framebuffer setup.
e[1;32m  OK  e[0m] Started LSB: Script infrastructure to enable/disable certain power management functions.
e[1;32m  OK  e[0m] Started System Logging Service.
e[1;32m  OK  e[0m] Reached target Syslog.
         Starting D-Bus System Message Bus...
e[1;32m  OK  e[0m] Started D-Bus System Message Bus.
         Starting Initialize hardware monitoring sensors...
         Starting ACPI Event Daemon...
e[1;32m  OK  e[0m] Started ACPI Event Daemon.
         Mounting /usr/local...
e[1;32m  OK  e[0m] Started Initialize hardware monitoring sensors.
e[1;32m  OK  e[0m] Started Login Service.
e[1;32m  OK  e[0m] Started Avahi mDNS/DNS-SD Stack.
e[1;32m  OK  e[0m] Started Trigger Flushing of Journal to Persistent Storage.
         Starting Permit User Sessions...
e[1;32m  OK  e[0m] Started Permit User Sessions.
         Starting Getty on tty1...
e[1;32m  OK  e[0m] Started Getty on tty1.
e[1;32m  OK  e[0m] Reached target Login Prompts.
e[1;32m  OK  e[0m] Mounted /usr/local.
e[1;32m  OK  e[0m] Started LSB: Configure network interfaces and set up routing.
e[1;32m  OK  e[0m] Reached target Network.
         Starting Command Scheduler...
e[1;32m  OK  e[0m] Started Command Scheduler.
e[1;32m  OK  e[0m] Reached target Host and Network Name Lookups.
e[1;32m  OK  e[0m] Reached target Remote File Systems (Pre).
         Starting LSB: Network time protocol daemon (ntpd)...
         Starting LSB: Sound daemon with network support...
         Starting /etc/init.d/boot.local Compatibility...
e[1;32m  OK  e[0m] Started /etc/init.d/boot.local Compatibility.
e[1;32m  OK  e[0m] Started LSB: Network time protocol daemon (ntpd).
e[1;32m  OK  e[0m] Reached target Multi-User.
         Starting LSB: X Display Manager...
e[1;32m  OK  e[0m] Started LSB: X Display Manager.


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it seems that systemd   LSB   and plain boot   
are competing to start the raid array

is this the slow boot???

is this normal ?????????

I have no idea what you are talking about. Please post or mark exactly the messages that you suspect and explain what is wrong with them.

And please post them so that they are readable.



RAID set "pdc_hgfehahg" was activated
RAID set "pdc_hgfehahg" was not activated
Trying manual resume from /dev/disk/by-id/raid-pdc_hgfehahg-part2
Invoking userspace resume from /dev/disk/by-id/raid-pdc_hgfehahg-part2
resume: libgcrypt version: 1.5.0
Trying manual resume from /dev/disk/by-id/raid-pdc_hgfehahg-part2
Invoking in-kernel resume from /dev/disk/by-id/raid-pdc_hgfehahg-part2
Waiting for device /dev/disk/by-id/raid-pdc_hgfehahg-part3 to appear: ok
fsck from util-linux 2.21.2
[/sbin/fsck.ext4 (1) -- /] fsck.ext4 -a /dev/mapper/pdc_hgfehahg-part3 
/dev/mapper/pdc_hgfehahg-part3: clean, 392009/14385152 files, 6086075/57539072 blocks
fsck succeeded. Mounting root device read-write.
Mounting root /dev/disk/by-id/raid-pdc_hgfehahg-part3
mount -o rw,noatime,nodiratime,discard,acl,user_xattr -t ext4 /dev/disk/by-id/raid-pdc_hgfehahg-part3 /root


i boot from masterboot record with grub


[1;32m OK [0m] Set up automount Arbitrary Executable File Formats File System Automount Point.
Expecting device dev-disk-by\x2did-raid\x2dpdc_hgfehahg\x2dpart2.device...
Expecting device dev-disk-by\x2did-ata\x2dST1000DM003\x2d1CH162_S1D3J8GP\x2dpart1.device...
Expecting device dev-disk-by\x2did-raid\x2dpdc_hgfehahg\x2dpart1.device...


this is just a few lines futher in boot.log


The raid array was made in 12.2 and fstab is also from 12.2

12.3 cant handle it so to see

so what has to be altered to boot without these messages?

What can not it handle? Your system boots up into graphical mode (X server). What exactly is wrong?

so what has to be altered to boot without these messages?

Use “quiet” on kernel command line.

The names the raid array has are as named in the top half
what systemd expects is not the same
And that is also the trouble installing 12.3 on this mobo

what you define is not the same as he uses so format goes beyond the end of patition
error -3030

So the installer is at fault here
is reported