12.1 installation question

I have 11.4. Today I downloaded the 12.1 ISO and burned it to a DVD. But it’s not booting my computer, even though I set up the BIOS to boot from that DVD drive first. Is there a way to manually start the 12.1 installation after I’m already booted into 11.4?

Am 18.11.2011 01:56, schrieb ekoblentz:
>
> I have 11.4. Today I downloaded the 12.1 ISO and burned it to a DVD. But
> it’s not booting my computer, even though I set up the BIOS to boot from
> that DVD drive first. Is there a way to manually start the 12.1
> installation after I’m already booted into 11.4?
>
Read the upgrade chapter in the manual
/usr/share/doc/manual/opensuse-manuals_en/manual/cha.update.html
and it is possible with yast and zypper (depends if you prefer a gui or
commands) just add the 12.1 dvd as repository with yast and remove your
11.4 repos.


PC: oS 11.4 (dual boot 12.1) 64 bit | Intel Core i7-2600@3.40GHz | KDE
4.6.0 | GeForce GT 420 | 16GB Ram
Eee PC 1201n: oS 11.4 64 bit | Intel Atom 330@1.60GHz | KDE 4.7.3 |
nVidia ION | 3GB Ram

On 2011-11-18 01:56, ekoblentz wrote:
>
> I have 11.4. Today I downloaded the 12.1 ISO and burned it to a DVD. But
> it’s not booting my computer, even though I set up the BIOS to boot from
> that DVD drive first. Is there a way to manually start the 12.1
> installation after I’m already booted into 11.4?

Are you sure you burned it correctly? If you open the DVD in 11.4, what do
you see?


Cheers / Saludos,

Carlos E. R.
(from 11.4 x86_64 “Celadon” at Telcontar)

I attempted to read that just now, and it’s VERY confusing! Many of the steps assume that I have a great amount of knowledge about backups, adding repositories, etc. … so many how-to details are omitted that it’s comically bad.

Anyway … I hope someone can answer the question that I actually asked: how do I make the disc boot, or how do I run it manually?

Thank you.

Pretty sure I burned it correctly. When I open the disc in a file manager, first I see the main 2-GB .iso file, and when I click on that it opens the archive manager with all the folders.

But … that gives me an idea. Have I burned a compressed file, which I was supposed to uncompress and THEN burn?

You probably burned a copy of the .iso file. You should have burned it as a DVD image. Look for the “Burn Image” function in your disc burning utility. :slight_smile:

Oh.

Hmm … the burner is in my MacBook … I only see one “burn” option which is for the raw .iso file.

On 2011-11-18 02:36, ekoblentz wrote:

> Pretty sure I burned it correctly. When I open the disc in a file
> manager, first I see the main 2-GB .iso file, and when I click on that
> it opens the archive manager with all the folders.

Then you burned it incorrectly. You should see the inside, not the iso file.


Cheers / Saludos,

Carlos E. R.
(from 11.4 x86_64 “Celadon” at Telcontar)

Looks like I need to turn to the Mac forums. I found image-burning instructions at How to burn ISO disc images - Mac OS X Hints but when I select the .iso file, I get an error message, “Unable to attach (the file name), not recognized.”

Am 18.11.2011 02:48, schrieb Carlos E. R.:
> On 2011-11-18 02:36, ekoblentz wrote:
>
>> Pretty sure I burned it correctly. When I open the disc in a file
>> manager, first I see the main 2-GB .iso file, and when I click on that
>> it opens the archive manager with all the folders.
>
> Then you burned it incorrectly. You should see the inside, not the iso file.
>
And the size of the iso should be much larger than 2 gig!!


PC: oS 11.4 (dual boot 12.1) 64 bit | Intel Core i7-2600@3.40GHz | KDE
4.6.0 | GeForce GT 420 | 16GB Ram
Eee PC 1201n: oS 11.4 64 bit | Intel Atom 330@1.60GHz | KDE 4.7.3 |
nVidia ION | 3GB Ram

On 2011-11-18 04:30, Martin Helm wrote:
> And the size of the iso should be much larger than 2 gig!!

Indeed. FAT limit.


Cheers / Saludos,

Carlos E. R.
(from 11.4 x86_64 “Celadon” at Telcontar)

Am 18.11.2011 13:03, schrieb Carlos E. R.:
> On 2011-11-18 04:30, Martin Helm wrote:
>> And the size of the iso should be much larger than 2 gig!!
>
> Indeed. FAT limit.
>
I suspect more a bad download. But one never knows (who on earth uses
fat as standard file system in windows, ntfs is the standard in windows
since win nt since 1993 and does not have this limit, but of course
maybe the download was done to some data partition which for whatever
reason maybe fat).


PC: oS 11.4 (dual boot 12.1) 64 bit | Intel Core i7-2600@3.40GHz | KDE
4.6.0 | GeForce GT 420 | 16GB Ram
Eee PC 1201n: oS 11.4 64 bit | Intel Atom 330@1.60GHz | KDE 4.7.3 |
nVidia ION | 3GB Ram

On 11/18/2011 04:30 AM, Martin Helm wrote:
> And the size of the iso should be much larger than 2 gig!!

this VERY true…@ekoblentz make sure the iso you downloaded it complete
and correct before you burn another disk (to throw away)…

there is a page full of info here
<http://en.opensuse.org/SDB:Download_help> which explains how to md5 or
sha1 check the file to make sure it is correct…mmmmmm, i see there
are directions if using Linux or Windows, but none for Mac users…

HELP! any Mac users here who can update that page??

but, there is also a section on how to burn the disk on Mac OS X (10.3
and above)…


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http://tinyurl.com/DD-Caveat
openSUSE®, the “German Automobiles” of operating systems

On 11/18/2011 02:36 AM, ekoblentz wrote:
>
> I attempted to read that just now, and it’s VERY confusing! Many of the
> steps assume that I have a great amount of knowledge about backups,
> adding repositories, etc. … so many how-to details are omitted that
> it’s comically bad.

-=Welcome=- to you and thank you for your interest in openSUSE

hmmmm…hope you accept this in the same spirit as i offer it:

openSUSE Linux is Free and Open Source Software (FOSS), it is free in
that you are free to change it all you wish and also free in that it
cost no money to obtain via download…

on the other hand, while openSUSE is free it is not automatically
easy…if you want easy, the most easy software (i’m told) is expensive
Mac, and next easiest is the little less expensive Windows and then the
most easy Linux is probably Ubuntu, and then you get to less easy than
Ubuntu but far more robust openSUSE…

you are free to choose both the level of out-of-pocket-cost and the
level of personal time needed to learn cost…

if you find the material you read “comically bad” that probably means
you need to learn something which was presented before that page in
the docs…try beginning here: http://doc.opensuse.org/

the first thing you might notice on that page is that openSUSE 12.1 is
not mentioned (but 11.4 is) that is because we are a FAST moving
distribution which released 12.1 two days ago without enough hands to
get everything done instantaneously…

again, welcome…hope you have the patience and time to invest in
learning a new system…


DD http://gplus.to/DenverD
openSUSE®, the “German Automobiles” of operating systems

I now have the full image loaded onto a USB key, which I accomplished using the UNetBootin program.

But my computer isn’t booting from it. Now that I’m looking closer at the BIOS settings, there isn’t any setting for booting from a USB device at all.

New question: is there a way to tell the 12.1 installation program to run manually, since I’m having so much trouble getting it to boot?

On 11/22/2011 05:56 AM, ekoblentz wrote:
> Now that I’m looking closer at
> the BIOS settings, there isn’t any setting for booting from a USB device
> at all.

if you bios can’t boot from a usb device, then there may be others
around who can explain how to get around that…but, i can’t…

you might try the makers web site and see if they have a BIOS upgrade…

hopefully someone else can help you…i think i remember somewhere in
these fora that someone posted a way…but, i have no idea where those
instructions might be…


DD http://tinyurl.com/DD-Caveat

There are many new questions, so what is the “computer” that isn’t booting? Your Macbook? Some other PC, running what OS exactly?

If you don’t provide basic info, how do you expect the forum volunteers to help you?

Just about to add that comment myself! I did have a similar issue when downloading 12.1 - I had three goes before I got an ISO that was 4.3Gb (or whatever); however, the first two (both around the 2Gb mark) didn’t flag up that there had been a problem, failed download etc.

Try downloading the software again and check that you get closer to 4.3 Gb when done.

Am 22.11.2011 14:56, schrieb aescott:
> Try downloading the software again and check that you get closer to 4.3
> Gb when done.
>
The size is just a very weak indicator, check the checksum (e. g. md5),
that is what they are for.


PC: oS 11.4 (dual boot 12.1) 64 bit | Intel Core i7-2600@3.40GHz | KDE
4.6.0 | GeForce GT 420 | 16GB Ram
Eee PC 1201n: oS 11.4 64 bit | Intel Atom 330@1.60GHz | KDE 4.7.3 |
nVidia ION | 3GB Ram

I meant my PC (thought that was obvious, but I guess not.) It currently has OpenSuse 11.4, as I wrote earlier in this thread.