11.4 installation asks for cd 1

tmillic · April 14, 2011, 2:59am

I’m trying to install 11.4 on a new netbook. When the CD loads, I’m asked to make sure that CD1 is in the drive. I downloaded the net-install CD again and burned it again, and the result is the same. Is there more than one net-install CD?
openSUSE-11.4-NET-x86_64.iso is what was downloaded from opensuse.org. The netbook is a Lenovo x120e.

nrickert · April 14, 2011, 3:38am

This hints at a possible problem in accessing your CD drive. For the basic booting, the CD is accessed by your BIOS. After that, the installer has to be able to read it, and apparently cannot find it.

martin_helm · April 14, 2011, 3:45am

tmillic wrote:

>
> I’m trying to install 11.4 on a new netbook. When the CD loads, I’m
> asked to make sure that CD1 is in the drive. I downloaded the
> net-install CD again and burned it again, and the result is the same. Is
> there more than one net-install CD?
> openSUSE-11.4-NET-x86_64.iso is what was downloaded from opensuse.org.
> The netbook is a Lenovo x120e.
>
When it asks for the CD press ok, it will fail (of course) and after that
you can proceed to do your installation via pure internet access, there is a
howto somewhere which describes this. I just do not rememeber where.

lwfinger · April 14, 2011, 5:28am

On 04/13/2011 09:06 PM, nrickert wrote:
>
> This hints at a possible problem in accessing your CD drive. For the
> basic booting, the CD is accessed by your BIOS. After that, the
> installer has to be able to read it, and apparently cannot find it.

Once a NET install boots, the CD is not needed. The only reason that it ould ask
for the CD is that it could not get to the network repo. Check to make sure that
your network is available.

martin_helm · April 14, 2011, 3:56pm

Larry Finger wrote:

> On 04/13/2011 09:06 PM, nrickert wrote:
>>
>> This hints at a possible problem in accessing your CD drive. For the
>> basic booting, the CD is accessed by your BIOS. After that, the
>> installer has to be able to read it, and apparently cannot find it.
>
> Once a NET install boots, the CD is not needed. The only reason that it
> ould ask for the CD is that it could not get to the network repo. Check to
> make sure that your network is available.
No, it is normal that it asks first for the CD (which fails), the network
configuration comes afterwards (it cannot check the network before the
network is configured), it just gives you a chance instead of doing a
network install to insert an installation cd.
But this is not a problem!
It just asks for the cd - you press ok - it fails and then you configure the
install via network.

caf4926 · April 14, 2011, 4:18pm

Even a network install cd can be badly burned!?

tmillic · April 14, 2011, 4:53pm

Thanks for the suggestions. I’m also downloading the KDE live CD, which also has an installer. After it’s downloaded, I’ll try it. If the problem persists, I’ll go back to the screen where one chooses the source medium and try a URL for one of the mirrors.

martin_helm · April 14, 2011, 5:04pm

caf4926 wrote:

>
> Even a network install cd can be badly burned!?
>
I repeat again this behaviour is normal and not a badly burned CD it always
ask about the CD 1 which does not exist, just press ok, accept that there is
no CD 1, configure your network and do the installation!!

lwfinger · April 14, 2011, 5:23pm

On 04/14/2011 10:06 AM, tmillic wrote:
>
> Thanks for the suggestions. I’m also downloading the KDE live CD, which
> also has an installer. After it’s downloaded, I’ll try it. If the
> problem persists, I’ll go back to the screen where one chooses the
> source medium and try a URL for one of the mirrors.

I have NEVER had a NET install CD ask for a CD to be mounted, and that covers a
lot of installations.

martin_helm · April 14, 2011, 5:31pm

Larry Finger wrote:

> On 04/14/2011 10:06 AM, tmillic wrote:
>>
>> Thanks for the suggestions. I’m also downloading the KDE live CD, which
>> also has an installer. After it’s downloaded, I’ll try it. If the
>> problem persists, I’ll go back to the screen where one chooses the
>> source medium and try a URL for one of the mirrors.
>
> I have NEVER had a NET install CD ask for a CD to be mounted, and that
> covers a lot of installations.
As well as I do most installations with the net CD and it always asks me
first for a CD 1.
So what do we do in a different way?

tmillic · April 14, 2011, 5:44pm

There are two options when it asks for CD 1: “OK” and “Back”.
Selecting “OK” just brings back the same box asking for CD 1 with the same two options. Selecting OK takes you to the options of selecting a source medium. Selecting CD/DVD results in “No repository found”. I’ve downloaded and burned the same net installation multiple times with the same result.
There is an option to obtain the source over http. I’m still searching for the IP address for this installation server.
If it helps, the USB drive is a Toshiba CD/DVD “External Super Multi” made in August 2009.

martin_helm · April 14, 2011, 5:52pm

martin_helm wrote:

> Larry Finger wrote:
>
>> On 04/14/2011 10:06 AM, tmillic wrote:
>>>
>>> Thanks for the suggestions. I’m also downloading the KDE live CD, which
>>> also has an installer. After it’s downloaded, I’ll try it. If the
>>> problem persists, I’ll go back to the screen where one chooses the
>>> source medium and try a URL for one of the mirrors.
>>
>> I have NEVER had a NET install CD ask for a CD to be mounted, and that
>> covers a lot of installations.
> As well as I do most installations with the net CD and it always asks me
> first for a CD 1.
> So what do we do in a different way?
>
To answer my own question:
When I install the net cd it is in an environment where dhcp is not
supported for a new machine so the automatic dhcp request from the installer
fails and it asks for the cd 1. Which is not a problem since when you press
(my memory was wrong here) not OK but BACK you are in expert mode and can
configure your network and your installation settings.
I just checked by enabling dhcp for an test installation and then it does
not ask for a CD 1.
But again it is not a problem if the installer asks for it, it just means
press BACK (not OK as I said before, otherwise it asks again and again) and
you are in the expert mode of the installer (which is what I use always).

tmillic · April 14, 2011, 6:18pm

DHCP is working fine though. Also, it says it cannot find the repository on the CD itself either.
The netbook has been connected via ethernet cable directly to the router. I’m having no luck entering an IP address and directory for the repository manually. I’m uncertain about the IP address for mirrors.kernel.org though. (I’m guessing that’s the repository to use.) This is incredibly frustrating.

martin_helm · April 14, 2011, 6:21pm

tmillic wrote:

>
> There are two options when it asks for CD 1: “OK” and “Back”.
> Selecting “OK” just brings back the same box asking for CD 1 with the
> same two options. Selecting OK takes you to the options of selecting a
> source medium. Selecting CD/DVD results in “No repository found”. I’ve
> downloaded and burned the same net installation multiple times with the
> same result.
> There is an option to obtain the source over http. I’m still searching
> for the IP address for this installation server.
> If it helps, the USB drive is a Toshiba CD/DVD “External Super Multi”
> made in August 2009.
>
You cannot select CD/DVD since it is a net installer and so you have no
CD/DVD repository.
http is the right choice.
You do not need an ip address you can also use the name:
download.opensuse.org
and as path enter
/distribution/11.4/repo/oss

tsu2 · April 14, 2011, 7:28pm

I also did an 11.4 NET LXDE install a few weeks ago and didn’t observe asking for a CD. The wrinkle in my install was using wireless (it’s possible but Stage 2 install will fail because wireless connection configurations aren’t preserved after the reboot which isn’t critical since you’d think that a NET install should be all latest packages anyway).

Am thinking, could the problem described be related to the various IPv6 discussions in the openSUSE Network forums? Could an initial try connecting to the openSUSE OSS repository be failing due to IPv6? But then I suppose the next question is that if it’s possible to successfully complete the installation by clicking through, what might that mean?

IMO only by looking at the install script code can the problem be surrounded.

Also, I doubt that the repository info should be modified – The NET ISO should have all that configured properly already. <Maybe> only add repositories (Like nVidia, Packman) but do not modify the default repositories.

Tony

martin_helm · April 14, 2011, 7:34pm

As soon as you fall back into the expert mode all repository info in the net installer is blank, this is true for several years now at least.
You then have to add it by hand (the server name or ip address and the path to the repo). This makes sense to me because you probably have the need to install with another setting than the default http repositories or you want to install via a local repository.

tmillic · April 14, 2011, 8:04pm

I was going to try installing from a USB stick in case it was a problem with the Toshiba drive. Your information on the server address to use worked. I must have been mistaken to think that I needed a numeric address where it asked for the IP address. I didn’t even think to try “download.opensuse.org”.
Thank you. It should finish installing in roughly 6.5 hours.

tsu2 · April 14, 2011, 8:35pm

Interesting. To me, actually it doesn’t make sense. Wiping all repository info assumes that I would want different repositories when maybe I just wanted to make small repository modifications or changes completely unrelated to repositories.

Thx for the warning, I guess in the future if I decide to do a custom NET install I’ll either prepare with handwritten info or count on doing my modifications after install (which is a waste and time consuming).

Tony

martin_helm · April 14, 2011, 8:35pm

Glad to here it starts working for you now.

I apologize to everyone that I thought the behaviour of the network installer asking for CD 1 is normal. Sometimes experience is misleading and in my case it was. It is just in my special case that this behaviour was always there (at least since 2005 in the company network where I use it) I always thought it is a special feature.
Now I know it better.

martin_helm · April 14, 2011, 9:09pm

tsu2 wrote:

>
> Interesting. To me, actually it doesn’t make sense. Wiping all
> repository info assumes that I would want different repositories when
> maybe I just wanted to make small repository modifications or changes
> completely unrelated to repositories.
>
So everybody has a different point of view as always.