11.4 Evergreen Install

I’m testing 11.4 Gnome on my eeepc
Can someone using 11.4 Evergreen please confirm their repos.

I have switched the oss, non-oss, updates to a active supply and updated
I added the Evergreen repo for 11.4 as outlined in the wiki
And it looks good as far as I can tell.

Any tip are welcome too

On 1/22/2013 10:06 PM, caf4926 wrote:
>
> I’m testing 11.4 Gnome on my eeepc
> Can someone using 11.4 Evergreen please confirm their repos.
>
> I have switched the oss, non-oss, updates to a active supply and
> updated
> I added the Evergreen repo for 11.4 as outlined in the wiki
> And it looks good as far as I can tell.
>
> Any tip are welcome too
>
>

caf4926;

Not sure exactly what you mean by verify; these are the repos I’m using for
11.4 Evergreen. YaST does not report any errors. Note that
download.opensuse.org still has the 11.4 repos and is even doing some updates of
software (e.g. the binaries for Samba-4 are in the /Samba: repo )


#  | Alias                 | Name                       | Enabled | Refresh |
URI
---+-----------------------+----------------------------+---------+---------+------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
1 | Evergreen-11.4-Update | Evergreen-11.4-Update      | Yes     | Yes     |
http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/openSUSE:/Evergreen:/11.4/standard/
2 | OpenSuSE-11.4-Samba   | OpenSuSE-11.4-Samba        | Yes     | Yes     |
http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/network%3a/samba%3a/STABLE/openSUSE_11.4/
3 | OpenSuSe_11.4_Update  | OpenSuSe_11.4_Update       | Yes     | Yes     |
http://download.opensuse.org/update/11.4/
4 | openSUSE-11.4-11.4-0  | openSUSE-11.4-11.4-0       | No      | No      |
dvd:///
5 | repo-debug            | openSUSE-11.4-Debug        | Yes     | Yes     |
http://download.opensuse.org/debug/distribution/11.4/repo/oss/
6 | repo-debug-update     | openSUSE-11.4-Update-Debug | No      | Yes     |
http://download.opensuse.org/debug/update/11.4/
7 | repo-non-oss          | openSUSE-11.4-Non-Oss      | Yes     | Yes     |
http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/11.4/repo/non-oss/
8 | repo-oss              | openSUSE-11.4-Oss          | Yes     | Yes     |
http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/11.4/repo/oss/
9 | repo-source           | openSUSE-11.4-Source       | Yes     | Yes     |
http://download.opensuse.org/source/distribution/11.4/repo/oss/
10 | virtualbox            | virtualbox                 | Yes     | Yes     |
http://download.virtualbox.org/virtualbox/rpm/opensuse/11.4/


P.V.
“We’re all in this together, I’m pulling for you” Red Green

That list is perfect. Thanks
I have

zypper lr -d#  | Alias                | Name                       | Enabled | Refresh | Priority | Type   | URI                                                                                  | Service
---+----------------------+----------------------------+---------+---------+----------+--------+--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------+--------
 1 | google-chrome        | google-chrome              | Yes     | Yes     |   99     | rpm-md | http://dl.google.com/linux/chrome/rpm/stable/x86_64                                  |        
 2 | kernel               | kernel                     | Yes     | Yes     |   99     | rpm-md | http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/Kernel:/stable/standard/                   |        
 3 | non-oss              | non-oss                    | Yes     | Yes     |   99     | yast2  | http://ftp5.gwdg.de/pub/linux/suse/opensuse/distribution/11.4/repo/non-oss/          |        
 4 | openSUSE-11.4-11.4-0 | openSUSE-11.4-11.4-0       | No      | No      |   99     | yast2  | hd:///?device=/dev/disk/by-id/usb-SanDisk_Cruzer_Edge_2006348533118E82D244-0:0-part1 |        
 5 | oss                  | oss                        | Yes     | Yes     |   99     | yast2  | http://ftp5.gwdg.de/pub/linux/suse/opensuse/distribution/11.4/repo/oss/              |        
 6 | repo-debug           | openSUSE-11.4-Debug        | No      | No      |   99     | NONE   | http://download.opensuse.org/debug/distribution/11.4/repo/oss/                       |        
 7 | repo-debug-update    | openSUSE-11.4-Update-Debug | No      | No      |   99     | NONE   | http://download.opensuse.org/debug/update/11.4/                                      |        
 8 | repo-source          | openSUSE-11.4-Source       | No      | No      |   99     | NONE   | http://download.opensuse.org/source/distribution/11.4/repo/oss/                      |        
 9 | updates              | evergreen                  | Yes     | Yes     |   99     | rpm-md | http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/openSUSE:/Evergreen:/11.4/standard/        |        
10 | updates_1            | updates                    | Yes     | Yes     |   99     | rpm-md | http://ftp5.gwdg.de/pub/linux/suse/opensuse/update/11.4/                             |        



I’m using a kernel update for better wireless support

On 1/22/2013 10:56 PM, caf4926 wrote:
>
> That list is perfect. Thanks
> I have
>
<snip>
>
>
> I’m using a kernel update for better wireless support
>
>
caf4926;

AFAIK the software on ftp5.gwdg.de is the same as that on download.opensuse.org
when 11.4 went out of support. At sometime I guess I’ll need to change over to
dwdg.de but for now using both is redundant.


P.V.
“We’re all in this together, I’m pulling for you” Red Green

On 01/23/2013 06:13 AM, PV wrote:
> At sometime I guess I’ll need to change over to dwdg.de but for now
> using both is redundant.

eventually i’d expect the links at download.opensuse.org to stop working…


dd
openSUSE®, the “German Engineered Automobile” of operating systems!

On 01/23/2013 05:56 AM, caf4926 wrote:
> 9 | updates | evergreen | Yes | Yes | 99 | rpm-md |http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/openSUSE:/Evergreen:/11.4/standard/
> 10 | updates_1 | updates | Yes | Yes | 99 | rpm-md |http://ftp5.gwdg.de/pub/linux/suse/opensuse/update/11.4/

when i have the old update repo enabled (your #10 above) in "zypper up"i
get a comment like

[quote]
Warning: Repository ‘11.4-update’ appears to outdated. Consider using a
different mirror or server.

[quote]

note: you #10 in my list is named ‘11.4-update’

it is my understanding (maybe faulty) that the evergreen repo you have
as #9 above is the complete set of updates from day one of 11.4
through EOL and all of evergreen up to today…

and therefore your #10 is only a duplication of part of the full set.

at any rate, i disabled that old update repo, and YaST stopped
complaining…

theoretically, to keep Evergreen current i think (unless i want to
install new software from the old 11.4 oss/non-oss/etc) i need only
enable what you have as #9 and run either ‘zypper patch’ or YaST Online
Update.


dd
http://tinyurl.com/DD-Caveat

I have these repos enabled for Evergreen (11.4 Gnome):


#  | Name                      | Enabled | Refresh | Priority| Type   | URI                                                                              
---+---------------------------+---------+---------+---------+--------+-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------+
 2 | Evergreen                 | Yes     | Yes     |   99    | rpm-md | http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/openSUSE:/Evergreen:/11.4/standard/
 3 | Packman-essentials        | Yes     | Yes     |   99    | rpm-md | http://packman.inode.at/suse/openSUSE_11.4/Essentials/
 4 | Updates for openSUSE 11.4 | Yes     | No      |   99    | rpm-md | http://download.opensuse.org/update/11.4/
 7 | openSUSE-11.4-Non-Oss     | Yes     | No      |   99    | yast2  | http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/11.4/repo/non-oss/
 8 | openSUSE-11.4-Oss         | Yes     | No      |   99    | yast2  | http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/11.4/repo/oss/
11 | subpixel                  | Yes     | Yes     |   99    | rpm-md | http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/namtrac:/subpixel/openSUSE_11.4/

Normally I have Packman at a higher priority, but do very little multimedia on that Gnome2 partition, so didn’t bother to change it.

In processing the install I presumed ‘Updates’ would have additional software patches that ‘Evergreen’ doesn’t cover. Once fully patched I added Evergreen and applied it’s updates. All looks good to me…
I forgot how quick it was - Gnome 2 I mean

No, that is faulty. :slight_smile:

My #2 (caf’s #9) Evergreen contains only 284 possible updates, whereas Updates for 11.4 has 2040 in total. Also I saw Evergreen trickle in from empty.

Indeed, for both of your comments.

On 2013-01-23 09:11, dd wrote:
> eventually i’d expect the links at download.opensuse.org to stop working…

Maybe not, evergreen is an official project.


Cheers / Saludos,

Carlos E. R.
(from 11.4, with Evergreen, x86_64 “Celadon” (Minas Tirith))

On 2013-01-23 09:47, dd wrote:

> when i have the old update repo enabled (your #10 above) in "zypper up"i
> get a comment like
> [quote]
> Warning: Repository ‘11.4-update’ appears to outdated. Consider using a
> different mirror or server.
> [quote]

Ignore that warning and keep both update repos. Mandatory :slight_smile:

Explanation on the evergreen mail list. I may dig out the reason or the
post later, if wanted. I have to move.


Cheers / Saludos,

Carlos E. R.
(from 11.4, with Evergreen, x86_64 “Celadon” (Minas Tirith))

In any case the standard 11.4 repos (oss, non-oss, update) or their contents would have to be provided somewhere, or Evergreen would close for 11.4 as you couldn’t [re-] install a workable/secure system.

On 01/23/2013 02:46 PM, consused wrote:
> My #2 (caf’s #9) Evergreen contains only 284 possible updates, whereas
> Updates for 11.4 has 2040 in total. Also I saw Evergreen trickle in from
> empty.

ok…thanks! (love to learn!)


dd
openSUSE®, the “German Engineered Automobile” of operating systems!

On 2013-01-23 16:16, consused wrote:
>
> robin_listas;2521326 Wrote:
>> On 2013-01-23 09:11, dd wrote:
>>> eventually i’d expect the links at download.opensuse.org to stop
>> working…
>>
>> Maybe not, evergreen is an official project.
> In any case the standard 11.4 repos (oss, non-oss, update) or their
> contents would have to be provided somewhere, or Evergreen would close
> for 11.4 as you couldn’t [re-] install a workable/secure system.

Right. And also the old update repo.


Cheers / Saludos,

Carlos E. R.
(from 11.4, with Evergreen, x86_64 “Celadon” (Minas Tirith))

Ugh? I had included the old update repo in the brackets :). The new one is Evergreen, anyway the question isn’t about it.

On 01/23/2013 03:08 PM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
> On 2013-01-23 09:11, dd wrote:
>> eventually i’d expect the links at download.opensuse.org to stop working…
>
> Maybe not, evergreen is an official project.

what happened: i moved to 11.4E before the current instructions were
on the wiki page, so i did all the instructions as for 11.2, including
moving to all FTP addresses (at, for example:
ftp://ftp5.gwdg.de/pub/opensuse/discontinued/distribution/11.4/repo/oss/

which works, so i thought they would move the repos off of software.etc

but, the new instructions just leaves all the http repos…you are RIGHT!


dd

On 1/23/2013 3:40 PM, dd wrote:
> On 01/23/2013 03:08 PM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
>> On 2013-01-23 09:11, dd wrote:
>>> eventually i’d expect the links at download.opensuse.org to stop working…
>>
>> Maybe not, evergreen is an official project.
>
> what happened: i moved to 11.4E before the current instructions were on the
> wiki page, so i did all the instructions as for 11.2, including moving to all
> FTP addresses (at, for example:
> ftp://ftp5.gwdg.de/pub/opensuse/discontinued/distribution/11.4/repo/oss/
>
> which works, so i thought they would move the repos off of software.etc
>
> but, the new instructions just leaves all the http repos…you are RIGHT!
>
Like dd I also made an early move to 11.4:Evergreen. Since all the repos for
11.2, which is still supported by Evergreen, had been removed from
download.opensuse.org, I assumed the same fate awaited 11.4. With any luck
they will stay just where they are. I hope Carlos E. R. is right.


P.V.
“We’re all in this together, I’m pulling for you” Red Green

I expect Carlos will have the appropriate explanation, but when I went to Evergreen wiki as a newcomer to it, a sentence or two mentioned 11.4 and a forthcoming announcement. Maybe also a link about a difference with 11.2, so I waited for the wiki to update. Even doing that, after adding the repo there was a bit of a wait for the first update. You were probably just unlucky with timing, as there was a significant gap after 11.4 support ended.

On 2013-01-23 19:26, consused wrote:
>> > And also the old update repo.
> Ugh? I had included the old update repo in the brackets :). The new one
> is Evergreen, anyway the question isn’t about it.

No, I’m just commenting, for anybody reading this thread, that for
Evergreen you need both the old openSUSE update repo and the Evergreen
update repository.


Cheers / Saludos,

Carlos E. R.
(from 11.4, with Evergreen, x86_64 “Celadon” (Minas Tirith))