I downloaded 11.4 DVD today, and I went to install. I originally had an issue with getting the USB to properly work, but I switched USBs and now it boots.
I choose installation from the nice menu and it goes to black screen and loads everything (usb drivers, etc) and then goes to linux kernel and asks for language and things until i get stuck on source where it gives me choices like hard disk and cd.
It does not match the installation guide.
Any tips?
You are downloading/installing a pre-release version. The final version does not get released until 4-5 days from now. If you rely on installation guides to get an install going, I would recommend against using a pre-release version and to use the released version (11.3) instead. Otherwise, you can try your luck in the “Pre-release” forum posting your question there.
I guess I could wait…what’s your opinion on the upgrade process were I to install 11.3 and up to 11.4 on release?
On 2011-03-05 01:06, GreyHatSalafi wrote:
> Any tips?
Don’t start with 11.4, it is not yet released - unless you are experienced
enough to solve problems and report solutions >:-P
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Cheers / Saludos,
Carlos E. R.
(from 11.2 x86_64 “Emerald” at Telcontar)
That’s a tough one for me to answer - even though I’ve been on SUSE/openSUSE since 8.1, I’ve never used the “upgrade” to go from version to version. I rather use the “migrate” approach: use a shared /data partition with my documents, etc. and have two mirrored root / partitions, one for my current release and the other for the upcoming release. When the new version comes out, I blow away my “previous” 11.2 partition (the one I used before I moved to my current 11.3 partition) and replace it with a clean 11.4 install. Then, slowly, I migrate the contents from the 11.3 partition to my new, clean /home folder on the 11.4 partition. If I’m happy after a while of running 11.4, I simply stop using my 11.3 partition until 12.0 comes out and the process repeats itself.
Having said all this, I know there are fervent users of the actual upgrade and they’ve been using it successfully for a long time.
On 03/05/2011 02:06 AM, GreyHatSalafi wrote:
>
> I guess I could wait…what’s your opinion on the upgrade process were I
> to install 11.3 and up to 11.4 on release?
Carlos gave you the best advice you can get: do not start with 11.4
RC, which is what you have there on disk…and, in fact in a few days
11.4 final will be out, but it will be born with a problems, which
will be worked out in a few months probably…
my advice install 11.3 now, which has almost all the problems
solved…learn as you go on a rather ‘mature’ system (but ONLY EIGHT
months old, and VERY new and cutting edge)…and, you get the benefit
of pretty complete docs (and, i think you will find the installation
guide you have is for 11.3, it should match what you see when
installing 11.3) and a forum full of problem>solution you can track
through…
get 11.3 here: http://software.opensuse.org/
then, when you have your footing you can upgrade or format/install 11.4…
just saying! of course, you can wait a few days and install the latest…
by the way, my advice assumes you are new to openSUSE…if you have
been around this dance floor, kick up your heels…
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DenverD
CAVEAT: http://is.gd/bpoMD
[NNTP posted w/openSUSE 11.3, KDE4.5.5, Thunderbird3.0.11, nVidia
173.14.28 3D, Athlon 64 3000+]
“It is far easier to read, understand and follow the instructions than
to undo the problems caused by not.” DD 23 Jan 11
Thanks for all the advice…haven’t made up my mind yet.
Btw, I am new to openSUSE, but not to Linux. I have several distros running on my laptop (multiboot with grub2). And the reason I want openSUSE is because I want to install the development release of MonoDevelop on it.
On 03/05/2011 01:06 PM, GreyHatSalafi wrote:
>
> Btw, I am new to openSUSE, but not to Linux.
ok if you are an old linux pro who can read and follow directions
given in documentation, you can install 11.4 RC and then update it to
release code with zypper later…
so, lets go back: what does this mean “I choose installation from the
nice menu and it goes to black screen and loads everything (usb
drivers, etc) and then goes to linux kernel and asks for language and
things until i get stuck on source where it gives me choices like hard
disk and cd.”
what does the screen look like, what do the word say (exactly: does it
say “stuck on source”??) when the possible answers are “like hard disk
and cd” ??
please be precise.
what i’m saying is that what you describe sounds SO VERY unlike any
openSUSE install i’ve ever seen that the first question i wanna ask is:
did you do this before you began the install: http://tinyurl.com/2ebcf27
and, if you did, did it throw any error?
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DenverD
CAVEAT: http://is.gd/bpoMD
[NNTP posted w/openSUSE 11.3, KDE4.5.5, Thunderbird3.0.11, nVidia
173.14.28 3D, Athlon 64 3000+]
“It is far easier to read, understand and follow the instructions than
to undo the problems caused by not.” DD 23 Jan 11
Basically, after I click installation, it leaves the installer, and goes to the prompt/terminal and show and goes to an older style gui with the header/title Linux Kernel, and says “Make sure CD1 is in the drive” I say ok, and it rejects it and says that the same thing again…I finally click cancel, and it moves on asking a bunch of other stuff.
Also, I was unable to view your image, because the country I am in has blocked the site.
On 2011-03-05 03:36, twelveeighty wrote:
> That’s a tough one for me to answer - even though I’ve been on
> SUSE/openSUSE since 8.1, I’ve never used the “upgrade” to go from
> version to version. I rather use the “migrate” approach: use a shared
The rotating method - very sensible.
> Having said all this, I know there are fervent users of the actual
> upgrade and they’ve been using it successfully for a long time.
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Cheers / Saludos,
Carlos E. R.
(from 11.2 x86_64 “Emerald” at Telcontar)
On 2011-03-05 14:36, GreyHatSalafi wrote:
>
> Basically, after I click installation, it leaves the installer, and goes
> to the prompt/terminal and show and goes to an older style gui with the
> header/title Linux Kernel, and says “Make sure CD1 is in the drive” I
> say ok, and it rejects it and says that the same thing again…I finally
> click cancel, and it moves on asking a bunch of other stuff.
This is a weird bug that happens rarely. For some reason it is not
recognizing your media an switching, I think, to the text safe install
mode, and asking for the CD instead of the DVD.
Someone commented on this a month ago or so, I don’t remember much about it.
The log of the live media (in ramdisk) would contain the reason. You should
report this in a Bugzilla - after all, that’s the reason for using a test
version >;-)
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Cheers / Saludos,
Carlos E. R.
(from 11.2 x86_64 “Emerald” at Telcontar)
instead of clicking install, do this <http://tinyurl.com/2ebcf27> and
report the outcome…
and, when you say “I switched USBs” what does that mean? hard drive in
an USB enclosure, or a USB stick or . . . ? or you wanting to install
to the USB only?
the thing is: we can’t know or see from here what you know and see…
OH!, i see you said multi-boot with grub2–RED FLAG, check i’m not
sure what openSUSE 11.4 is using…it may not be grub2, and that might
be part (or all) of the problem and in any event you may need to plan
how to proceed…
i know (from reading in the pre-release forum here) that some have
said 11.4 is not so good at seeing other Linux installs (it is, i
think ok at seeing Redmond stuff)
new to openSUSE you probably outta stop and do some reading, otherwise
you are likely to learn the hard way that this disto is, and has been
on its on path from the beginning (it branched off from slack and has
never been either Red Hat or Debian or any of their cousins…so, be
warned…
you might begin here:
http://forums.opensuse.org/english/get-technical-help-here/how-faq-forums/
and, at the very least read all of
http://old-en.opensuse.org/Concepts
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DenverD
CAVEAT: http://is.gd/bpoMD
[NNTP posted w/openSUSE 11.3, KDE4.5.5, Thunderbird3.0.11, nVidia
173.14.28 3D, Athlon 64 3000+]
“It is far easier to read, understand and follow the instructions than
to undo the problems caused by not.” DD 23 Jan 11
No more issues, but just to report:
I downloaded LiveCD version of 11.4 and it installed and worked just fine. The issue was with the DVD version. Thanks for your help everyone!
I encounter that on our LUG (Linux Users Group) laptop which uses an external USB drive for installing from the openSUSE-11.4 milestone and RC DVDs.
The solution that worked for me was to switch between <CTRL><ALT><F1> display (when there type ‘fdisk -l’ , ‘df -Th’ and ‘lspci’ and ‘lsusb’ ) and back to the main install display with <CTRL><ALT><F7> and then select the “RETRY” on the warning menu, and I do that a few times (going back and forth) and eventually the install would recognize the DVD and continue the install.
Its an annoying bug, but my access to the LUG laptop is not sufficiently guaranteed that I can support a bug report on this. I don’t get this on ANY of the 5 PCs in our apartment.
Glad to read the liveCD version does not have this problem. I use the LXDE desktop (which does not yet have a CD version) and hence need to fight through this bug on the DVD version when using our LUG laptop. Out of curiousity, is your CD/DVD reader device an external one ?
It’s internal…but I didn’t use it in this case…I was using a USB flash drive.
Ok the DVD is not supported on a flash drive, you can only do it from a CD image.