11.4 64 bit clean install has destop tiled and messed up for created user

Ok, guys, bear with me, please note I’m still pretty much a beginner on Linux… but have installed 11.3 on same laptop i’m about to describe issue with, just fine…

OK, Steps taken for clean install…

Inserted a 60 Sata Seagate (not partitioned yet)
Run the install of Suse 11.4 and let it set partitioning
Install went pretty smooth, I was able to see GUI to navigate and install everything just fine…
When re-booting into the User that was setup, the desktop was like it was tiles about 100 times on the screen but the images was messed up in each of the tiles…like a video driver wasn’t right
I rebooted into FailSafe
Logged in as root from prompt using startx… then exec startkde
Was able to see desktop just fine in 1440 X 900 resolution (17 notebook monitor)
No Internet connectivity via root login

This happens every time I try to log in with the user setup…

OH, please note I did get into my user with the resolution of 1024 X 768 at one point in time and internet access (if this bit of information helps any)… but don’t even know how I did it and can’t replicate…

NOW… 11.3 32-bit never had this issue… the on board video is a nVidia chip (NVIDIA GeForce 7150M) on a HP DV9917CL (more specs here… Product Specifications HP Pavilion dv9917cl Entertainment Notebook PC - HP Customer Care (United States - English))

Can anyone tell me why 11.4 is so hard to install when 11.3 installs just fine? I’m actually going to install 11.3 again JUST to make sure I’m not lying to anyone…

Please note if you have ANY suggestions please be very specific in the steps as I’m only a SUSE linux beginner… Thanks in advance… ;)…

1 don’t log into GUI as root you can damage stuff accidentally.

2 have you install the NVIDA driver?

I couldn’t never get into the User login without the screen being messed up… and I mean messed up… where you can tell there is a desktop back in there somewhere but you can not see anything to navigate to Yast and install the drivers… …

Your comment – 1 don’t log into GUI as root you can damage stuff accidentally.
well I had to try something to get into the GUI as I’m not fluent on linux command prompt to get around…

2 have you install the NVIDA driver? –
I tried to install the driver under root in yast… but still to no prevail…

You don’t need to be in a desktop to install the nvidia driver, we can walk you through this if you want to try it

One question, does your user automatically login or do you boot into the kdm login manager where you have to enter your username and password?

(if you installed the gnome desktop instead of kde it would be gdm not kdm but that’s not really important at this stage)

Well, sorry to go off track but one quick question, I have just installed 11.3 (and using it now to enter this thread) so I know 11.3 works fine on install and getting into desktop…

To answer your question, I would normally have it just ask me for password and then I enter it… I guess that’s the KDM . I use the KDE… I’m not too particular to GNOME…

Quick question… what If I do a ‘upgrade’ from 11.3 to 11.4?

Sorry guys have a appt i have to be at so won’t be able to get back to this until tomorrow evening… but I DO want to get into 11.4… Thanks again for the help…

Sure you can try an upgrade, in case you’re not sure how to do that this page has instructions

SDB:System upgrade - openSUSE

cool, I just wanted to give a quick update… when 11.3 32bit got installed, i could see the desktop just fine… but when I went to the screen saver in the Personal Setting and checked out a OpenGL Screen save Euphoria (GL) and did a TEST on that… the screen/desktop went to the same look as the desktop looks when I install 11.4… so it is definitely a driver issue… initial assumption is… 11.3 handles video graphics much better than 11.4 on initial or clean installs…
SO with your suggestion to upgrade… and via the instruct to check for repository, I do show

| Alias | Name | Enabled | Refresh | URI

—±---------------------------------------------±----------------------------------------------±---------±--------±--------------------------------------
1 | Updates for openSUSE 11.3 11.3-1.82 | Updates for openSUSE 11.3 11.3-1.82 | Yes | Yes | http://download.opensuse.org/update/11.3/6653214

The next steps show to add this:
zypper addrepo --check --name ‘openSUSE-11.3-Update’ Index of /update/11.3 repo-update

if I do this, to I actually add?:
zypper addrepo --check --name ‘openSUSE-11.3-Update’ Index of /update/11.4 repo-update

Thanks again for the help this is really great… nothing like learning on the fly… :wink:

Firstly, I didn’t suggest an upgrade, you asked if you could do one and I affirmed that you can, personally I usually go for fresh installs but upgrading works ok too

I think you might not be sure how to follow the upgrade process on the page I gave you though so here’s a simple rundown of how to go about it

Make sure have at least the opensuse 11.3 OSS, Non-OSS and Update repos configured and enabled

Once you’re sure you have them, run Yast Online Update (or zypper as per the SDB page), I would reboot after that whether you’re asked to or not

Disable all your repositories, sudo zypper modifyrepo --all --disable is probably easiest

Add the opensuse 11.4 OSS, Non-OSS and Update repos

Run sudo zypper dup

Reboot

You could probably also add the nvidia repo but I would do that after the upgrade has finished

Hope that helps you understand the process

Ok, sorry, that is my bad, didn’t mean to ‘mis-quote’ you, my thoughts are on figuring this out, so my bad. I do agree with you about ‘fresh installs’ though, I prefer those as well. SO with that stated, here is what I’m going to do, I’m going to do a fresh install of 11.4. Once that is done, I know for a fact that I won’t be able to view the desktop due to the video drivers not be correct to setup the nVidia Repository. What are the steps to add the nVidia repositories and add the drivers? (and I’m guess this will be done via the terminal BASH or the like). I remember seeing how to add this via the ‘upgrade’ link you gave me. I just don’t know how to install the drivers once the repository is added. Sorry to take the LONG way around to get to this and I REALLY appreciate your patients with a Noob ;)… So, if you can tell me the steps of what to do once the 11.4 is install I would highly appreciate it…

Ok, here’s a quick update… I did a ‘Update’ from 11.3 to 11.4… same issue video… it’s great during the installation but as soon as the KDE GUI tried to load… the screen/desktop is tiled garbage and can’t see anything. SO, I tried to go into failsafe and add the repository but the internet connection isn’t working but the lights are on where the NIC is on the laptop… again, signs of the noob ;). So any explicit directions on how to fix this will be hugely appreciated… Thanks…

Ok Ecky, I’m keeping an eye out for your reply with steps on how to fix this… I did a CLEAN FRESH install of 11.4 where is should prompt me to username and password… The video/monitor has it’s tiled garbled display where I can’t even see the Login screen… again, the installation I could see just fine, but once it gets to the login page, it’s the tiled garbled look… I’m awaiting your instructions on how to add the repository to update the nVidia drivers… please note, I’m going on vacation for about 4 days… so once you post the steps, I’ll jump on it ASAP when I get back and have time to try it… Thanks again…

Do you get the login screen or is that messed up?

OK
You just answered that.
Try adding nomodeset to the boot argument at boot time
File:Nomodeset-example.jpg - openSUSE

If that doesn’t work. Boot to level 3 and run Yast:
Boot to Level 3, then Yast and More…

You can edit settings and add repos as required by this guide:
nVidia Driver via Repo in 11.3 & 11.4 - Guide
nvidia is in the repo community list to make it easier

caf4926 got in there while was I sleeping and gave you links to guides I didn’t even know about!

Best of luck with it

Hey guys, I don’t have time now but will definitely try them on Friday… Thanks again for the links and I’ll give them a shot… I’ll post back my results on then… Thanks Ecky and Caf4626…

Hey guys, the NOMODESET was the ticket…

Added NOMODESET to the Boot Option line
KDE loaded
Went to Yast and added/updated the nVidia video drivers
Rebooted and left of NOMODESET off of the Boot Option command

KDE Started up just fine.

… thanks to both you guys, caf4926 & Ecky…

Off to the new en-devour, I need to figure out how to use my wireless connect…

Kudos to the both of you and again, thanks for your patients…

Great news
:smiley: