I’ve installed 11.3 RC2 in a couple ways on this machine. One by
continuously updating from factory and the other a clean install. I also
have 11.2 running on the machine.
For the clean 11.3 installation, the appearance for my main user session
is different from 11.2 and the other 11.3. The general appearance of
windows reminds me a little of old Unix displays. Icons in windows have
changed, for instance in Firefox the “home” icon is a circumflex with a
couple of "U"s below.
If I switch to 11.2 or the other 11.3, the display returns to normal.
Root and test user sessions are not affected by this malady.
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Graham Davis, Bracknell, Berks.
E-mail: newsman-AT-scarlet-HYPHEN-jade-DOT-com
On Sat, 03 Jul 2010 07:02:28 +0000, Graham P Davis wrote:
> I’ve installed 11.3 RC2 in a couple ways on this machine. One by
> continuously updating from factory and the other a clean install. I also
> have 11.2 running on the machine.
>
> For the clean 11.3 installation, the appearance for my main user session
> is different from 11.2 and the other 11.3. The general appearance of
> windows reminds me a little of old Unix displays. Icons in windows have
> changed, for instance in Firefox the “home” icon is a circumflex with a
> couple of "U"s below.
>
> If I switch to 11.2 or the other 11.3, the display returns to normal.
> Root and test user sessions are not affected by this malady.
Could you provide some screenshots, please?
Thanks,
Andreas
Andreas Jaeger, Program Manager openSUSE, aj@{novell.com,opensuse.org}
Twitter: jaegerandi | Identica: jaegerandi
Sounds more or less like cosmetic settings. Just a bit of tweaking required. Perhaps you carried /home over with all it’s settings? Perhaps you need to install missing themes etc…
On 03/07/10 10:16, caf4926 wrote:
> Yes, some screens please…
>
> I did not experience this. 11.3 is wonderful
>
> Sounds more or less like cosmetic settings. Just a bit of tweaking
> required. Perhaps you carried /home over with all it’s settings? Perhaps
> you need to install missing themes etc…
>
>
>
Here’s an image from 11.2 of Firefox and Thunderbird
Snapshot_11.2
and how they appear in the clean install of 11.3
Snapshot_11.3
The main theme I use is Oxygen. Unfortunately, this was removed from
Style/Workspace on all systems a few weeks ago [why?] so I have switched
to Aya for that alone. Dunno whether these are the “cosmetic settings”
you were referring to.
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Graham Davis, Bracknell, Berks. E-mail: newsman, not newsboy
Alcohol facts: Healthiest weekly amount is 21-30 units.
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On 03/07/10 21:16, oldcpu wrote:
> caf4926;2184481 Wrote:
>
>> It helps if you attach the url of the imageslol … I confess I initially mistook the lack of an attachment for
>>
> an attempt at humour. rotfl!
>
>
>
The snapshots appear OK on NNTP but it seems the poor old forum couldn’t
handle them.
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Graham Davis, Bracknell, Berks. E-mail: newsman, not newsboy
Alcohol facts: Healthiest weekly amount is 21-30 units.
Consume 63 and you’ll live only as long as a teetotaller.
I’m thinking you have a bad install. I have installed openSUSE-11.3 RC2 KDE on 1 PC and it still has the Oxygen theme. I’ve also booted openSUSE-11.3 RC2 KDE liveCD to 3 other PCs, and they all have the Oxygen theme. Perhaps your /home (if you retained it) is corrupt?
On 04/07/10 08:36, oldcpu wrote:
> Cloddy;2184479 Wrote:
>
>> Here’s an image from 11.2 of Firefox and Thunderbird
>> Snapshot_11.2
>>
>> and how they appear in the clean install of 11.3
>> Snapshot_11.3
>>
>> The main theme I use is Oxygen. Unfortunately, this was removed from
>> Style/Workspace on all systems a few weeks ago [why?] so I have
>> switched
>> to Aya for that alone. Dunno whether these are the “cosmetic settings”
>> you were referring to.
>>
> I’m thinking you have a bad install. I have installed openSUSE-11.3
> RC2 KDE on 1 PC and it still has the Oxygen theme. I’ve also booted
> openSUSE-11.3 RC2 KDE liveCD to 3 other PCs, and they all have the
> Oxygen theme. Perhaps your /home (if you retained it) is corrupt?
>
>
>
The Oxygen theme (for Style/Workplace only) disappeared from new
installs of 11.3 (RC2 and RC1) on two machines, incremental updates to
11.3 RC2 from earlier milestone, and 11.2 on the two machines. I also
set up another user and that showed the same problem.
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Graham Davis, Bracknell, Berks. E-mail: newsman, not newsboy
Alcohol facts: Healthiest weekly amount is 21-30 units.
Consume 63 and you’ll live only as long as a teetotaller.
Now my theme is NOT Oxygen, nor is what I selected in that window Oxygen, but I can assure you that the Oxygen theme illustrated as a selection in those images DOES work on that desktop. The same is true for every liveCD I have tried.
So I hope that makes it clear the Oxygen theme is present, on my 11.3 RC2 PC, KDE desktop. I did nothing special. This IS a clean install. I did keep the /home from RC1.
My only conclusion is that we are talking about different things wrt the theme, and that we do not understand your post?
Can you perhaps provide more detail on your setup so we can clear up our misunderstanding and thus try to help better ?
The 11.3 clean installation was 64-bit (as are the 11.3 incremental and
11.2). I’ve now tried 32-bit (mainly to see if another problem might be
solved) and the dodgy appearance remains. The graphics driver is the new
Radeon but it is for the incremental 11.3 also.
Just to reiterate, the settings should be identical for all tests on
this machine as I’m using the same /home directory, just different root
directories for each installation.
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Graham Davis, Bracknell, Berks. E-mail: newsman, not newsboy
Alcohol facts: Healthiest weekly amount is 21-30 units.
Consume 63 and you’ll live only as long as a teetotaller.
On 04/07/10 13:16, oldcpu wrote:
>
> Cloddy;2184650 Wrote:
>> The Oxygen theme (for Style/Workplace only) disappeared from new
>> installs of 11.3 (RC2 and RC1) on two machines, incremental updates to
>> 11.3 RC2 from earlier milestone, and 11.2 on the two machines. I also
>> set up another user and that showed the same problem.
> I’m wondering now if we are talking about the same thing?
>
> My only conclusion is that we are talking about different things wrt
> the theme, and that we do not understand your post?
>
> Can you perhaps provide more detail on your setup so we can clear up
> our misunderstanding and thus try to help better ?
>
>
I wish I’d never mentioned Oxygen as I agree after lots of tinkering
with settings that it’s a red herring. However, if you’re interested,
Oxygen used to be one of the default options listed under
System-Settings/General/Appearance/Style/Workspace. See following link
for the option I’m on about -
Oxygen used to be on this list below Aya in the position where I’ve
added “Ghost”.
In creating a title for this screen-shot I realised that the loss of
Oxygen may well have coincided with an update from KDE 4.4.3 to 4.4.4.
Sorry for leading you astray.
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Graham Davis, Bracknell, Berks. E-mail: newsman, not newsboy
Alcohol facts: Healthiest weekly amount is 21-30 units.
Consume 63 and you’ll live only as long as a teetotaller.
caf4926 I confess I’m lost here also in trying to reproduce Cloddy’s PC’s behaviour. With KDE-4 one can add kdeartwork4-desktopthemes and get more themes, or simply select under Configure Desktop > Appearance > Style > Workspace > Get New Themes and get the ‘Oxygen-M’ theme from there for the ‘workspace’ …
… I can’t understand why Cloddy is experiencing unsatisafactory icons in firefox, when my are great ! I can NOT reproduce his behaviour. Not only that for my two installed instances of 11.3 RC2, but immediately after any openSUSE-11.3 RC2 KDE liveCD boot on any of my PCs, the firefox icons are great ! This is true on both 64-bit and 32-bit liveCDs for 11.3 RC2. I simply can not reproduce that behaviour that Cloddy reports. I’ve attempted this on 5 different PCs (both nVidia and Radeon hardware).
I can’t reproduce it, either…unless I try upgrading to a 4.5 RC.
If I stick to 4.4.4, I’m fine.
Partway through the upgrade from 4.4.4 to either 4.5 RC (currently RC2) the default Oxygen high-color icons don’t match the rest of the desktop (KDE 4.5 RCs include a new high-color icon set; they do not use the ones from 4.4.x). However, because it takes at least two (if not three) passes (even with zypper) to change everything over, at some point you’ll have 4.4.x icons in KDE 4.5, which will look Decidedly Wrong.
For different reasons (notably that I can’t use Linux Catalyst with 11.3 RC2), I’ve stayed with 4.4.4 for now.
Were all of those clean (as opposed to upgrade) installs?
One thing I noticed (with any upgrade to a 4.5 RC, whether in 11.2 or a beta/RC version of 11.3) is that one pass (with either Yast or zypper) won’t do it all, especially if KDE is running; and that was from 4.4.3 (4.4.4 had not been released yet); from 4.3.5 (which is the default for 11.2), it may require an intermediate upgrade to 4.4.3/4.4.4 enroute. Also, there are several applications that are lagging in the 4.5 SC creation process (most notably KMail, which will be held back until at least 4.5.1); fortunately for us KDE fans, 4.4.x applications can be used with the 4.5 RCs with no difficulties (though both sets of runtimes are required in such an instance). Notice that I don’t blame openSuSE (or Novell) as it’s not the fault of either; it’s a straight KDE issue. Also, as weird as the page with the icon corruption looked, it still looked better than Fedora 12’s default icon set for KDE 4.4.4 (which is not the same set used by Fedora 13 or even RHEL 6 beta 2).
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