That caused a Kwin Crash…
Upstream bug report
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=232179
Hello caf4926,
I installed M4 exactly the same way as yours, i.e. started with live installer, GRUB in MBR, etc. At first, I booted to a blank screen, then rebooted to the fail-safe version. Then I rebooted again when the scrolling stopped and nothing happened. I still cannot have a login screen. Any suggestion?
I do not know how caf4926 can answer this, if you don’t provide him some detail on your graphic hardware. :\
You may find it helpful to take a look at some basic graphic theory in post#1, #2 and #3 of openSUSE Graphic Card Practical Theory Guide (dependant on your hardware being ATI, nVidia or Intel) and after that, you may be able to follow/understand any recommendation given to you.
As @oldcpu suggests, some info on graphics might help us.
Possibly if you try level 3 boot, see if you get a console login.
Try Ctcl-C
Hi oldcpu & caf4926,
Toshiba Satellite A110 laptop with Celeron M CPU, 512 mb Ram and ATI Radeon Xpress 200M series graphic card/chipset.
Thanks in advance!
@taytong888
I’ll let @oldcpu deal with you. He has ATI cards, I don’t, never have. He is better placed to assist. I’ll keep an eye on the thread and chirp in if necessary.
With only 512mB of RAM, if it were me I would do a TEXT install. Then once I was confident that install completed properly (even if GUI does not function) I would then set up the GUI.
To install in text mode, boot to the installation CD/DVD, and press F3 at the very first boot/splash screen that comes up. Select TEXT. Then proceed to boot from CD/DVD. That will take one to a full screen text mode with a text login prompt. Login as user “linux” (no quotes and press <enter> for password). Then type “su” (no quotes) to switch users to root (and press <enter> for password). Then type “yast” (no quotes) to start yast and use the TAB, Spacebar and arrow keys to navigate. Navigate down to Miscellaneous and select installation menu item from there.
That will install with a text menu system, but when finished it will setup for a graphical boot.
If the graphic boot then fails, at least at that stage your install should have completed and then it is just a matter of selecting and configuring a functional driver. There is some basic theory here: openSUSE Graphic Card Practical Theory Guide for Users - openSUSE Forums
Either the fvdev, or the vesa or radeon driver should work for you.
Don’t forget to write a bug report on M4 if your graphics do not boot automatically after an installation of M4. There is guidance here for bug reports: Submitting Bug Reports - openSUSE note you can log on to bugzilla with your openSUSE forum user name and your openSUSE forum password.
Hello oldcpu,
Thanks for the quick reply. Actually I have 2 GB RAM on the laptop. Another question before I start working on the problem. If indeed sax2 has been removed from openSUSE 11.3, what are the alternate options I should try in order to enable “radeon” driver for this ATI card?
Well, then now I am confused. What does this mean:
typing error ???
sax2 has not been removed removed from openSUSE-11.3 to the best of my knowledge. It is just not on the liveCD.
So with factory repository setup, just type:
zypper install sax2
Hello oldcpu,
I was perhaps thinking of another laptop that belongs to a relative when I refer to 512 MB RAM. Mine has 2 GB RAM.
I installed openSUSE-11.3 milestone4 (build 05150 from the installation CD on my 32-bit Sandbox PC (an athlon-1100 w/1GB RAM and an AGP nVidia FX5200 graphic card).
Its currently up and running but there were some hiccups in the install that I did NOT see in previous milestones, which while no problem for an average openSUSE user, might block and upset a new user a LOT.
I chose the LXDE desktop, and deselected the automatic configuration. I chose to have a separate password for my regular user and the root user. I also installed the “base development” pattern, and kernel-source and kernel-syms. There is no “linux-kernel-headers” in M4.
The first error I got during the install was this one about software management. This could be due to this being a milestone release, but I note I did not get this error (from what I can recollect) on previous milestones:
http://thumbnails13.imagebam.com/7373/92731d73727799.gif](http://www.imagebam.com/image/92731d73727799)
The second error I got during the install was this puzzling one about fstab and the home user not being mounted.
http://thumbnails7.imagebam.com/7373/97129273727801.gif](http://www.imagebam.com/image/97129273727801)
I did a <ctrl><alt> <F2> at this point and confirmed that /home was assigned to a separate partition in the new fstab and also via the “mount” command confirmed that /home was not mounted. I then did <ctl><alt><F7> to get back to the installation. I selected “YES” and the installation continued normally. This was puzzling.
The third error was a black screen on the initial desktop ! I note the mouse moved ok.
http://thumbnails26.imagebam.com/7373/64413d73727802.gif](http://www.imagebam.com/image/64413d73727802)
I managed to select <ctrl><alt><F2> and login and force a reboot with “shutdown -r now”. The desktop worked fine upon the reboot.
I noted sound worked, as did internet access. I copied the proprietary nVidia driver to the hard drive, but did not install it yet.
The resolution I had was 1024x768 on LXDE which given the monitor is capable of 1900x1200 was not what I wanted. I took a look at /var/log/Xorg.0.log and noted the “noveau” driver could not be found in an error message, and instead the “nv” driver was loaded. There was no /etc/X11/xorg.conf file in use.
I then rebooted and logged in to run level 3. Sax2 was installed (since this is a DVD install) and “sax2 -p” ran OK. But when I ran “sax2 -r -m 0=nv” , or "sax2 -r " or "sax2 " in every case I got this error:
http://thumbnails26.imagebam.com/7373/c44fb073727806.gif](http://www.imagebam.com/image/c44fb073727806)
It looks like sax2 is depreciated so much now that its utility is dropping off dramatically.
So rather than mess around with this, I simply installed the proprietary nVidia graphic driver ( version 173.14.25 ) the “hardway” (which is NOT hard). Then I ran “nvidia-xconfig” to create an xorg.conf file, and I rebooted and X came up at 1600x1200. Still not my monitor’s maximum 1900x1200, but its good enough for now.
So thus far the LXDE desktop is running better in M4 than it did in M3. I still have not tested many things, and that will come later. But the openSUSE installer needs some cleanup as the hiccups I encountered will for certain cause many a distro-hopper rant, where the distro hoppers IMHO get far more credance/credibility in their rants than they deserve (but thats another topic/story).
I’m not certain, but what I observed may have been this bug (which is now resolved): Access Denied
I’m currently looking for a bug report on this. Someone reported something similar on an encrypted /home, but I do NOT encrypt my /home: Access Denied
So I raised:
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=591659
Murphy’s law says someone else raised this already, and I missed this in my search for the same bug being reported.
I raised this bug report on the Sax2 error:
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=591660
caf4926 wrote:
>
> Try this folks
> Open the system monitor (I’m kde)
> Now open a terminal:)
>
Crashed!
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Russ
| openSUSE 11.2 (2.6.31.12-18-desktop) x86_64 | KDE 4.4.1 release
225 | Intel Core 2 Dual E7200 | 4 GB RAM | GeForce 8400 GS | 320GB
Disc (2) |
Argh… My usb mouse & keyboard froze.
Romanator
I plugged in my 1TB Seagate External hard drive (formated as NTFS) using a USB cable and it was hot plug recognized in M4 running the LXDE desktop.
I also plugged in my digital camera (a Canon Ixus 800 IS) using a USB cable and it was hot plug recognized as a hard drive 
and I could access the camera’s file structure. I then run gtkam on LXDE, and had it detect my camera. I had to have it scan twice before it finally picked up the Ixus 800 IS camera, but it did see the camera, and I was able to download images.
So similar to M2 that was a successful test !! LXDE works with my camera on my Sandbox PC and also with my external hard drive. Very nice !
Me too, I tried two times but during the configuration of the system I always get my mouse n keyboard frozen.