11.3 Milestone 3 results

Not a help request, more a report. but it includes buggy bits - and I’ll keep
feeding them back here over the next few days.

Actually M3 works OK once you get the desktop up. I used the kde4 live cd installed from a live usb I created. It wouldn’t run the installer directly from the boot menu, I had to start the live desktop. Post install reboot ends in a black screen, required reboot, then failsafe boot to text mode yast post install config. Then reboot again, selecting normal boot and goes to the desktop no problem.

In the morning I’ll be adding all the necessary packages for bug reporting. ATM I notice suspend to RAM not working.
The install picked up all my partitions and correctly selected everything the way I would have selected it manually. It found my winders install except it didn’t make the entry in menu.lst:P

Hmmm … Milestone-3 … It reads to be a bit unshakey.

I still have not seen a news/release notice yet …

I recall milestone 3 is supposed to have the updated GCC. My experience over the years brings back memories that GCC updates can cause multiple hiccups.

Hence I’m thinking I may just skip milestone3 and wait for milestone4 or milestone5.

Well it didn’t go too smoothly, but it didn’t exactly require a genius to get it up and running (Because I managed it!)
But it is development after all;)

Hi
Gnome install via the DVD, all worked fine from the get go on the
netbook. Compiz, suspend, wireless, bluetooth, webcam etc although the
default compiz settings are empty…

Rather boring install in fact. Installed mplayer gnome-mplayer
gecko-mediaplayer and dependencies (local repo downloaded from packman
factory) tested flash, mpeg4 mp3 all playing fine.


Cheers Malcolm °¿° (Linux Counter #276890)
openSUSE 11.3 Milestone 3 (i586) Kernel 2.6.33-5-desktop
up 13:41, 2 users, load average: 0.07, 0.03, 0.00
ASUS eeePC 1000HE ATOM N280 1.66GHz | GPU Mobile 945GM/GMS/GME

Hi
I have built a few apps on OBS with gcc45 fine, compiled my modified
au0828 kmp on this machine with the kernel source and gcc45 fine here.


Cheers Malcolm °¿° (Linux Counter #276890)
openSUSE 11.3 Milestone 3 (i586) Kernel 2.6.33-5-desktop
up 13:50, 2 users, load average: 0.16, 0.15, 0.06
ASUS eeePC 1000HE ATOM N280 1.66GHz | GPU Mobile 945GM/GMS/GME

lol! I hear you!
Nice to have something to get the grey cells going;)

I know, once it was configured to start the install, came back and
there was the desktop about 30 minutes later…sigh!

Ran my auto configuration scripts and done…


Cheers Malcolm °¿° (Linux Counter #276890)
SUSE Linux Enterprise Desktop 11 (x86_64) Kernel 2.6.27.45-0.1-default
up 2 days 11:56, 3 users, load average: 0.99, 0.72, 0.40
GPU GeForce 8600 GTS Silent - CUDA Driver Version: 190.53

I’ll take boring gladly, as long as everything works lol!. So far I’ve noticed the KDE Live CD doesn’t recognize my monitor size or the speakers over HDMI. Here’s hoping the DVD will get them set up correctly :|.

So so far it has my 24" screen set at 800x600 with no rotation, which leads me to think that Nouveau’s either not installed (which wouldn’t make sense since I thought it was right in the .33 kernel) or not working. It worked for me in Kubuntu 10.04 alpha 3 right away, so I’m confused. Is anyone else having problems? I had this same issue with the second milestone live cd. I’m using KDE4.

Also, when I logged into sax2 to see if I could change the settings, it just bumped me out to a command line. Are they any previously known bugs about this?

I tried LXDE on milestone3 … kept my /home from milestone2 LXDE … but thus far the desktop is rather messed up in milestone3.

It could be because I had the proprietary nVidia driver running in Milestone2, and the desktop settings in Milestone2 were tuned to that driver, … while this boot in Miletone3 came up with an opensource driver (possibly the nv).

Anyway, the desktop is unworkable at the moment, and I have to see what I can do. … Thus far not so pleasant, … but thats a milestone release for one. :slight_smile:

I installed the proprietary nVidia driver (173.14.25) on this GeForce FX5200 graphics and that improved things a bit, but its still not a useable desktop compared to milestone2.

I will probably create a new user, and login as that user, to see if that makes any difference.

Currently all windows are locked to the upper right hand corner and can not be moved around on the screen. Thats like the old “gems” before Windows-2.0 back in 1988 (over 2 decades ago) . I recall milestone2 had better behaviour.

I suppose I could just test KDE or Gnome, but someone has to look at LXDE. :slight_smile:

I created a new user and logged in as the new user. Hard to believe, but its worse :frowning:

This new GCC has caused major breakage with LXDE. I don’t recommend any one try this for now.

  • Its impossible to select the number of desktops
  • windows are locked to the upper left corner screen (and can NOT be moved on the desktop)
  • often windows (such as firefox) are not only locked to the upper left corner screen, but they can not be resized in cases, making the application simply useless.
  • after logging in to LXDE one is presented with a pure BLACK desktop background - major depression until one tunes in some colour :\
  • there is no feedback when an app is launched, so one has no idea if the mouse click worked …

    Frankly, I would rather run in a full screen text mode than this, and struggle with Lynx for browser etc … the GCC breakage makes this (LXDE) in milestone3 that pathethic.

I won’t waste any more time on this. I’ll check for bug reports, and if I find none, I’ll write some. Hopefully some good will come of this.

I wrote the following bug reports:

All three closed already as duplicate of : https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=585974

Here I have been told that the cursor should change from an arrow to an arrow with a rounding circle… and asked to upgrade openbox from X11:lxde repo and advise if that fixes the issue. I’ll do that later this weekend.

No feed back yet (not that I expected any).

The feedback from the LXDE bug reports was incredibly fast.

All 3 were fixed by an update of openbox.

I updated openbox and this https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=585961 was not fixed.

Still, the update of openbox in fixing the 1st 3 bug reports makes this LXDE suddenly useable. So I’ll keep it for a while and do some more tests later this weekend.

I’ll try some hot plug automounting and maybe raise a bug report on that.

I installed Milestone 3 from the dvd tonight. The install went fine with autoconfiguration, but when it booted into the gui for the first time, there was a lot of display corruption. Looked like something designed by Timothy Leary.

I rebooted into failsafe mode, which was working normally, but at 1280 x 1024 instead of 1680 x 1050. Then I updated xorg-x11-driver-video from the X11: XOrg Factory repo and rebooted. Now I was using the nv driver and the resolution was 1680 x 1050.

I went to download.nvidia.com/XFree86 to download the latest nvidia driver and discovered that some previous versions I was using were gone and the lastest one was 195.30. This module would not build for me. There was an error message about mis-matched kernel sources.

I still had a copy of 195.36.08 which built with no problem, so now I have 3d effects working.

Something happened on this install that I have never seen before. After I created another primary partition for Milestone 3, YaST told me that there was no swap partition created and that this was ok but not necessarily the best way. Previously, YaST always used the swap that had already been created for 11.2.

Did anyone else see this?

Something happened on this install that I have never seen before. After I created another primary partition for Milestone 3, YaST told me that there was no swap partition created and that this was ok but not necessarily the best way. Previously, YaST always used the swap that had already been created for 11.2.

The installer picked up my swap from 11.2 and used it as I would expect.

nVidia pulled the 195.36.08 , as apparently in some GPU intensive software apps it will over heat and fry the video card (or something like that). I’m also using the 195.36.08 on two of my PCs, and and not decided if I should roll back. Other than special desktop effects, and playing HD movies, I don’t challenge my graphics much. … But I think I’ll stop using vdpau capabilities of my graphic cards for now, until this problem that caused nVidia to withdraw the 195.36.08 driver is sorted.

Yes, I saw something like this in my milestone3 DVD install (of LXDE desktop) and I have also seen it in previous installs on 11.1 and 11.2.

In all cases (11.1, 11.2, 11.3milestone) I rejected the partitioning suggested by the openSUSE installer, and I selected my own. In my experience about 50% of the time, even though I rescan and select my own partitioning, the openSUSE installer will still detect the swap partition, and other 50% it will not detect the swap partition and I have to identify it manually.

I do not have a cause-and-effect sorted in my mind as to when it does and when it does not happen. But its easy to sort (for me at least).

On 06/03/10 05:46, caf4926 wrote:
>
>> Something happened on this install that I have never seen before. After
>> I created another primary partition for Milestone 3, YaST told me that
>> there was no swap partition created and that this was ok but not
>> necessarily the best way. Previously, YaST always used the swap that had
>> already been created for 11.2.
>>
> The installer picked up my swap from 11.2 and used it as I would
> expect.
>
>

I had the same thing happen. I’d edited the partitioning to change a few
things and then got the warning about no swap partition. This didn’t
happen with M1 or M2.

Only other problem I’ve found so far is Thunderbird crashed when trying
to reply to this post so I’m back on 11.2. Same thing happened when
trying to compose an e-mail.

Graphics no problem - which is unusual for this Radeon HD system even on
a final release. Actually 11.2 was OK until we got close to the final
release so I’d better not get too happy yet.

Another goody - one up on 11.2 - is that Lightning (1.0 b1 ?) is included.


Graham P Davis, Bracknell, Berks., UK. E-mail: newsman not newsboy
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