11.2m6 repository dont work

hi

today i installed opensuse 11.2 milestone6 and wondered about the not working repository. i found the bug solution with “export ZYPP_ARIA2C=0”, but it doesnt work. the media.1/media error messages still appear.
where can i get nvidia driver, skype_x64(libqt4-32bit) and a lot other things?
with the factory repository i could get most of the programms im looking for, but also it downgrades my system to kernel 2.27 :frowning: and therfore i get problems with ext4 format on my disks.

beside im new to opensuse. i worked years on debian(gnome) and now switched to opensuse for a better kde4 integration. my first impressions on opensuse are realy good but the repository system is a mess.

how can i set up a complete working repository entry up to date like milestone 6 or factory with a kernel minimum 2.31?

kg odesu

Milestone 6 comes with kernel 2.6.31. Are you saying that after you installed Milestone 6, you now have kernel 2.6.27? How did you do this?

The factory repo for the Milestone is here:

Index of /factory/repo/oss

I would suggest that you disable whatever other repos you have and use the above repo to upgrade.

no - after installing milestone 6 i had 2.6.31. then when i installed the nvidia driver x11-video-nvidiaG02 with yast2( repos 11.1 activ) i get the 2.6.27… kernel with it.
if i use factory repos only i cant found a solution to install nvidia on 2.6.31 because of dependency error “Problem: kernel(default:kernel_time) = 737dc055885b5e6f, benötigt von nvidia-gfxG02-kmp-default-185.18.36_2.6.27.29_0.1-6.1.x86_64, wird von keinem Repository angeboten”(its in german but probably usefull).

so is there a solution to install nvidia with yast2 and only factory repos activ?
sure i could do it manually but then i have to do this everytime the kernel updates/changes.

ok - will try. factory and packman.testing.

thank for your reply.

kg odesu

i did the upgrade to factory. now udev has a problem to mount the /dev stuff at boot time. kde starts but neither mouse or keyboard work.

will search on the next day for a solution.

kg odesu

You did read the links from the wiki explaining about the factory and the milestones, didn’t you? If so you would understand that between the milestones, factory can be in an unpredictable state, and updating from it can render your system completely unusable. :wink:

consused wrote:
> You did read the links from the wiki explaining about the factory and
> the milestones, didn’t you? If so you would understand that between the
> milestones, factory can be in an unpredictable state, and updating from
> it can render your system completely unusable. :wink:

In addition, it is very likely that you will need to “build from
scratch” any out-of-kernel drivers such as used for nVidia or ATI
graphics devices. With 11.2, I am testing without 3D acceleration.

I had absolutely no problems to build the nvidia driver by myself. A description for 11.2 and the nvidia sources was easily found via google.

I had 2 monitors with acceleration.

ok. i installed the newest factory snapshot. now the software management works without problems. i setup nvidia and skype manually.

perhaps the differences between milestone and factory releases should be explained in short at the download pages. its not obvious for newbies to opensuse.

thanks for your replies. everthing works fine and smooth now.

kg odesu

If you’re a ‘newbie’, please don’t start with Factory or Milestone releases. It’s stated loud and clear that they are for testing purposes, NOT for production use. When learning to drive a car, you don’t start with Ferrari’s next year concept model.

You may have a point, given that “newbies to opensuse”, even if experienced on other distros, would not be familiar with “milestone” as they would with “alpha, beta, rc”.

i mean the update possibility. i tought, when i selected the “Latest Development Version” on the download page, milestones are like testing or unstable versions which will be updated continuously to a stable version. i havent noticed that there is a factory version too. further i have seen on the forums that various people go in this trap.

so i think this should be explained on the download page.

kg odesu

What update possibility? The only update that is officially on offer is the download of the next milestone (as an .iso disk image) when it’s announced! You get it from the download page. I assume that’s the same download page you refer to here:

i tought, when i selected the “Latest Development Version” on the download page,

milestones are like testing or unstable versions which will be updated continuously to a stable version.
Yes, but milestones are the snapshots (iso images) from the factory for you to test, until the stable version is released for general availability in November.

i havent noticed that there is a factory version too. further i have seen on the forums that various people go in this trap.
There isn’t a factory version. There are factory repos that are in an unpredictable or unstable state (i.e. work in progress) between milestones. Some very experienced people like to live dangerously and download from factory repos inbetween milestones using zypper commands. This is not supported and will break your system at some point.

IMO, if anyone at any experience level cannot be bothered to research the above, using the links provided on the openSUSE wiki at announcement, they are not fit to be testing prerelease software, and wasting other peoples time arguing the toss about it. :wink:

I had the same problem as the poster and worked through it by carefully reading the FAQs and other posts. But then I have been a SuSE/openSUSE user for over 10 years.

While I agree that the original poster might need to read a bit more closely in the future to understand the differences between stable and unstable, we might need to bit more gentle here on these forums. We really want to bring new users into the fold rather than chastising them or treating them like children.

Over the past 3 years, I have brought 3 Windoze users into the linux fold and failed to bring 2 users. I learned that patience, empathy with their frustrations, and good communication are all essential to helping these new folks. From their point of view, they are in entering a scary and exciting Brave New World. While it is a world of freedom and choice, it requires a bit more understanding than a standard computer user. I feel it is our responsibility as ambassadors of our culture to guide not cajole our new users…to help them start along their paths as smoothly as possible.

As an addendum to my previous post, we might also remember that not everyone speaks the same language natively or has the same level of a functional computing “vocabulary” or knows the openSUSE vernacular…

I liked this comment…it isn’t mean but gets to the point…kinda clever too…