11.2 RC1: Oh dear!

Just installed RC1 and it’s a bit of a mess.

Graphics are messy to start with but use of SaX2 - without changing any
settings - seems to settle things down. ATI Radeon driver problems?

Kontact crashes as soon as I try to read any mail or news. I installed all
the debug software but when I try to save the crash message I get “Could not
start process. Cannot talk to klauncher. Not connected to D-Bus server.”
Useful!

After the Kontact debug crash, everything seizes up and a hard boot becomes
necessary.


Graham P Davis, Bracknell, Berks., UK. E-mail: newsman not newsboy
“I wear the cheese. It does not wear me.”

Starnge. I have none of these issues. Actually have to find more than 1 issue (super user file manager for Dolphin doesn’t work).

So far it’s incredible !

Install was 16 mins and that’s with a load of extra stuff. Boot time is quicker than 11.1 @ 17secs, not bad for my old Lappy.

caf4926 wrote:

> Starnge. I have none of these issues. Actually have to find more than 1
> issue (super user file manager for Dolphin doesn’t work).

I’m wondering whether it could all be due to a dodgy graphics driver.
Another machine, with an nVidia card, had similar graphic problems at M7 as
my ATI machine showed but went away at M8. Seems OK at RC1 but it’s an
update from M8, not a clean install. I’d better get on with installing RC1
from scratch on that machine as well and see what happens.


Graham P Davis, Bracknell, Berks., UK. E-mail: newsman not newsboy
“I wear the cheese. It does not wear me.”

I’m quite curious to read if there are many graphic problems with 11.2 RC1 (and indeed the earlier milestone releases).

The way in which graphic drivers are configured in 11.2 is a departure from 11.1 and earlier openSUSE versions. Far less importance is placed on the /etc/X11/xorg.conf file and there is far more automatic configuration of the graphics.

I guess time will tell how will this new approach turns out. Is it an immediate step forward in ease of configuration? Or is it a step sideways or back as a prelude to a step forward ? …

11.2 could prove to be an interesting release.

Hi
Since M5 or M6 I’ve had now issues with this machine and intel
graphics, gnome/compiz works fine from the get go.

RC2 I think I’m going to give KDE4 a go again :slight_smile:


Cheers Malcolm °¿° (Linux Counter #276890)
openSUSE 11.2 RC 1 (i586) Kernel 2.6.31.3-1-desktop
up 1:45, 1 user, load average: 0.28, 0.28, 0.28
ASUS eeePC 1000HE ATOM N280 1.66GHz | GPU Mobile 945GM/GMS/GME

Upgraded from M8 a few hours ago and so far everything works.

Very easy upgrade.

Dolphin-Super User and Kontact both work fine for me.

Graham P Davis wrote:

> caf4926 wrote:
>
>> Starnge. I have none of these issues. Actually have to find more than 1
>> issue (super user file manager for Dolphin doesn’t work).
>
> I’m wondering whether it could all be due to a dodgy graphics driver.
> Another machine, with an nVidia card, had similar graphic problems at M7
> as my ATI machine showed but went away at M8. Seems OK at RC1 but it’s an
> update from M8, not a clean install. I’d better get on with installing RC1
> from scratch on that machine as well and see what happens.
>

Done that - eventually! I get very annoyed when, part way through the
installation, I get told to provide CD-0. After clicking “continue” several
times, I resort to shouting at the machine, “what do you think you’ve been
reading the data from so far you stupid [various expletives deleted]”, but
it doesn’t help. In this case I eventually gave up and ran a check on the
DVD which, of course, it passed with flying colours, and then all was OK.

Anyway, there were no repeats of the failures and graphics problems on this
new installation - bar those which almost always happen with nVidia. Looks
like the ATI driver but I’ve still something else I must try - setting up a
new user in case there’s something in the particular user settings that 11.2
doesn’t like.


Graham P Davis, Bracknell, Berks., UK. E-mail: newsman not newsboy
“I wear the cheese. It does not wear me.”

It works great on all of my computers and notebooks.
I’m especially impressed that it works just fine with the propertiery nvidia driver.

Just installed RC1 with on board SIS660 video. The display runs off the screen and Yast does not have a Monitor or Display option under Hardware. Running Sax2 from the console, it told me it could not connect to my graphics display, started to run but could not change anything. The settings are for generic VESA as my particular Acer monitor is not listed.

It’s hard to configure anything when the selection buttons are off the screen.

And yes, I verified the md5sum on the DVD.

I wonder how well SIS660 video is supported … Its not that common, so perhaps not so well.

Did you try to force sax2 to configure to use the vesa driver from run level 3 (ie from an ascii prompt)?

ie as opposed to: sax2 -r

try instead “sax2 -r -m 0=vesa”

From what I have read, if the new automatic graphics configuration does not work in 11.2, one can still use sax2 to create an xorg.conf file, where the existence of that file will over ride the automatic configuration settings.

Back in 11.1 (and earlier openSUSE/SuSE versions), there would also be an xorg.conf.install file that one could rename to xorg.conf, and hence use as an interim for setting up one’s graphics, but I’m not sure that is still the case with 11.2.

Thanks! I’m one step closer. Now after the above suggestion from run level 3, I can set the display to LCD and a resolution of 2048 by 1024 by 75 hertz, and When I “startx” the display fits the screen and all the fonts are readable. But it doesn’t keep the setting, because on the next reboot it reverts to the old problems. However sax2 does create a file in /etc/X11 called xorg.conf.saxsave. Any further ideas. You’re my best lead so far!

Correction—That resolution should be 1280 x 1024 x 75.

Thats strange … I had thought sax2 would create a file called xorg.conf in /etc/X11. (I had thought xorg.conf.saxsave would be a backup that sax2 makes before creating the new xorg.conf file).

This is new to me.

Surprise! I just came home and booted into level 5, and the graphics screen worked, and there is now a xorg.conf file right next to xorg.conf.saxsave and they are identical. Sometimes going out for a walk solves even the trickiest problems. Thanks for the help.

I didn’t encounter the problems you mentioned. After upgrading from M8 (zypper dup) the problems I had were:

  • needed to recompile the nVidia driver
  • after reboot, the networking stopped working, but I realized that something went wrong with resolv.conf and simply copied resonv.conf.netconfig over it and now everything’s fine

Everything else is working just as in M8, as far as I can see.

I’ll try with the fresh install of RC1 as well, and report later.

dcengija wrote:

> I didn’t encounter the problems you mentioned. After upgrading from M8
> (zypper dup) the problems I had were:
>
> - needed to recompile the nVidia driver

I had no problems with my nVidia machine. Definitely ATI-related. Yesterday,
I tried ATI’s proprietary driver from their web-site and that caused a lot
more trouble.


Graham P Davis, Bracknell, Berks., UK. E-mail: newsman not newsboy
“I wear the cheese. It does not wear me.”

I upgraded from 11.1 >> 11.2 RC1.

X didn’t start; needed to run sax2 (!) to reconfigure. But it’ll only work in 800x600 mode; not yet figured out how to increase the resolution.

– Dell 6400 with Intel 945 graphics card.

I upgraded from 11.1 >> 11.2 RC1.

X didn’t start; needed to run sax2 (!) to reconfigure. But it’ll only work in 800x600 mode; not yet figured out how to increase the resolution.

– Dell 6400 with Intel 945 graphics card.

See if the approach described by oldcpu will work for you. Open a terminal, and become root with ‘su’ command. Then do

init 3

Try

sax2 -r

When done, either reboot or type

init 5

See how that goes. If you still have problems after that, please post your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file contents. (Maybe it can be tweaked manually).

Gnome Desktop 11.2 RC1
Just installed on me AMD Athlon xp1800+ with Nvidia…
So far it works, even a Belgian Eid Card Reader, very fine.
Printer works to, HP 845C, but need more configuration.
So far so good.
Because Tiger on me IMac has no longer full support, i test it before install the final version on the Mac.
I gonna give the Mac more memory, but its all, no new Leopard, or, Snow Leopard and Office.

Tomorrow i work further on me configuration, i hope that all works fine, for now, congratulations openSUSE ! :wink:
Greetings,
Artfreddy