I have tried the fixes I have found to date with little luck. I see a phonon error that the 1200 sound card is not working and is being reset to default. I have tried alsa update and entering model under yast with no success. The card worked fine under 11.0. 11.1 seems to break it. It does respond to speaker-test and does play sound for start up and shut down. But nothing else will talk to it. I have set permissions and made sure it is not muted. This is getting a bit frustrating. Anyone found a sure fix for this one?
This is a bug. I get the same and it does not effect my sound.
If you get sound from the speaker test, then your sound works, and this is likely a codec issue.
I recommend the following approach … please bear with me while I explain …
First, assuming your PC has internet access, I recmmend you setup your Software Package Management repositories with OSS, Non-OSS, Update, and Packman. No others. None. Just those 4. You can add more than those 4 after you learn of the risks, and how to recover from dependency and other problems when they occur. There is guidance for how to add those 4 here: Repositories/11.1 - openSUSE-Community Again, please add only OSS, non-OSS, Update and Packman. No others. In particular, do NOT add videolan as its codecs are known to interfer with the packman packaged players. If you installed videolan apps, please replace them with Packman packaged apps (except for libdvdcss from videolan, which you should keep).
Then, with those 4 repositories added, go to YaST > Software > Software Management and setup your multimedia with packman added packages … I suggest packman packaged smplayer, libxine1, xine-ui, vlc, amaork, libffmpeg0, w32codec-all. The last two will pick up a bunch of codecs that you need.
Don’t forget to keep both your master volume and pcm volume levels up to a high level (just below distortion). You may need to check the mixer after each application you test.
Good luck and let us know how it works.
Thanks for the help. Tried it and it really didn’t help much. Is there a patch being worked for 11.1 to address this problem? 11.0 did not have any problems with this sound card. I think one of the new packages that was added may be the culprit. Phonon is new if I am not mistaken and I did see an error from that one. Worst case, back to 11.0 where things worked, although I did want to try out 11.1. Been a SUSE user for a lot of years and do want to stay with it.
Please can you confirm that
- you have start up and shut down sound
- the speaker-test sound works
- you have NO OTHER sound
I do not want to provide a recommendation based on a wrong assessment of the problem.
That is correct. The speaker test if run from a terminal window. Saw one recommendation saying to update alsa. Will try that next. Will let you know if I stumble on something that works.
I do NOT recommend you update alsa. I think this is another problem.
Please provide instead the output of:
rpm -qa | grep layer
rpm -qa | grep ffmpeg
rpm -qa | grep vlc
rpm -qa | grep xine
rpm -qa | grep codec
or even better, go here:
Check your multimedia problem in ten steps - openSUSE Forums
Here’s what I got:
sharpre@linux-xanp:~/Desktop> rpm -qa | grep layer
pullin-flash-player-11.1-1.1
flash-player-10.0.15.3-1.1
sharpre@linux-xanp:~/Desktop> rpm -qa | grep ffmpeg
sharpre@linux-xanp:~/Desktop> rpm -qa | grep vic
device-mapper-1.02.27-7.1
sharpre@linux-xanp:~/Desktop> rpm -qa | grep xine
xinetd-2.3.14-129.35
libxine1-gnome-vfs-1.1.15-20.8
libxine1-pulse-1.1.15-20.8
libxine1-1.1.15-20.8
sharpre@linux-xanp:~/Desktop> rpm -qa | grep codec
opensuse-codecs-installer-10.3.1-4.80
sharpre@linux-xanp:~/Desktop>
I am getting audio under gnome but the banshee cd media player will lock up after the first song. Under kde no sound at all. Interesting…
Thanks. I think I see your difficulty.
Let me explain. …
openSUSE is called openSUSE for a reason. Note the emphasis on “open”. That is because Novell/SuSE-GmbH try harder with openSUSE to provide a distribution consistent with the openSource free software philosophy than many other distributions. This means Novell/SuSE-GmbH in most cases will not include software that is proprietary (and not free per the free software foundation definition of free). Hence proprietary drivers for hardware are often not included, media players for playing proprietary audio and video codecs are not included. None of those are completely free. Yes they may (or may not) be free in terms of price, but they are not free in terms of “free to copy”, or “free to give away” or “free to modify” or “free to give away modified copies”.
Most of the video/audio codecs that are available are proprietary, which means openSUSE as packaged is basically crippled for most proprietary codecs.
Fortunately, there are easy and quick works arounds to install 3rd party packaged media players.
The best way to do this is to first setup one one’s software package manager repositories to make the installation of software very easy. A repository is in essence a file server on the internet, that in the case of openSUSE, contains many applications for openSUSE. I recommend you set up your software package manager with only OSS, Non-OSS, Update and Packman repositories. Just those 4. No others. None. There is guidance for doing that on openSUSE-11.1 here: Repositories/11.1 - openSUSE-Community … again add only OSS, Non-OSS, Update and Packman. When you learn more about the risks of adding other repositories, and how to fix the problems that can happen, you can add others. In particular, do NOT add videolan as its codecs / apps are in some key cases not compatible with those of Packman packaged apps.
After you have added those 4, with your PC connected to the internet, go to YaST > Software > Software Management, and select the filter to search, and add the packages that I note below …
I recommend you also install smplayer, mplayerplug-in.
Most of the codecs that you will need for video and audio are provided by dependencies of libffmpeg0. So please install libffmpeg0 packaged by packman.
A great video player is vlc. I recommend you add vlc.
OK, you have either the videolan or the Novell/SuSE packaged versions of these apps. I recommend you replace libxine1-gnome-vfs, libxine1-pulse, and libxine1 with the packman packaged version of those applications. Also install xine-ui from packman. I also like xine-skins.
Another useful packman packaged app to install, to provide 3rd party codecs, is w32codec-all. Also install that.
For mp3 playback, I recommend you install amarork, and amarok-xine. Then when you run amarok, go into the setup/preferences and select the xine engine.
That should get you started.
My circumstances are almost the same. My motherboard is Intel DG965WH,
equipped with 82801H (ICH8) audio. This worked fine in openSUSE 10.2
x86_64, but not 11.1 x86_64.
I am running KDE 4.1, and while there is no sound upon graphical login,
there is on shut down.
Then please follow my advise in post#8, in terms of setting up your repos with OSS, Non-OSS, Update, and packman. And then installing smplayer, mplayerplug-in, libxine1, xine-ui, amarok, amarok-xine, vlc, libffmpeg0, w32codec-all … all from Packman.
oldcpu wrote:
> Robert Carlson;1917327 Wrote:
>> My circumstances are almost the same. My motherboard is Intel DG965WH,
>> equipped with 82801H (ICH8) audio. This worked fine in openSUSE 10.2
>> x86_64, but not 11.1 x86_64.
>>
>> I am running KDE 4.1, and while there is no sound upon graphical
>> login,
>> there is on shut down.
>
> Then please follow my advise in post#8, in terms of setting up your
> repos with OSS, Non-OSS, Update, and packman. And then installing
> smplayer, mplayerplug-in, libxine1, xine-ui, amarok, amarok-xine, vlc,
> libffmpeg0, w32codec-all … all from Packman.
>
>
Only packman needed adding, but after adding it, I tried to install
smplayer. YaST found it, but then there was one error after another
relating to files not found on the packman site:
File './suse/x86_64/portaudio20-20.0-0.pm.1.x86_64.rpm not found on
medium ‘http://ftp.skynet.be/pub/packman/suse/11.1/’
File ‘./suse/x86_64/libxvidcore4-1.2.1-0.pm.0.x86_64.rpm’ not found on
medium ‘http://ftp.skynet.be/pub/packman/suse/11.1/’
File ‘./suse/x86_64/libx264-65-0.0svn20081218-0.pm.4.x86_64.rpm’ not
found on medium ‘http://ftp.skynet.be/pub/packman/suse/11.1/’
File ‘./suse/x86_64/libtwolame0-0.3.12-0.pm.1.x86_64.rpm’ not found on
medium ‘http://ftp.skynet.be/pub/packman/suse/11.1/’
File ‘./suse/x86_64/libmp4v2-1.5.0.1-10.pm.0.x86_64.rpm’ not found on
medium ‘http://ftp.skynet.be/pub/packman/suse/11.1/’
File ‘./suse/x86_64/libmp3lame0-3.98.2-0.pm.3.x86_64.rpm’ not found on
medium ‘http://ftp.skynet.be/pub/packman/suse/11.1/’
File ‘./suse/x86_64/libenca-1.9-0.pm.2.x86_64.rpm’ not found on medium
‘http://ftp.skynet.be/pub/packman/suse/11.1/’
File ‘./suse/x86_64/libdirac0-1.0.0-0.2.x86_64.rpm’ not found on medium
‘http://ftp.skynet.be/pub/packman/suse/11.1/’
File ‘./suse/x86_64/libdca0-0.0.5-3.x86_64.rpm’ not found on medium
‘http://ftp.skynet.be/pub/packman/suse/11.1/’
File ‘./suse/x86_64/libaudio2-1.9.1-0.pm.2.x86_64.rpm’ not found on
medium ‘http://ftp.skynet.be/pub/packman/suse/11.1/’
File './suse/x86_64/libamrwb3-7.0.0.3-0.pm.0.x86_64.rpm not found on
medium ‘http://ftp.skynet.be/pub/packman/suse/11.1/’
File './suse/x86_64/libamrnb3-7.0.0.2-0.pm.0.x86_64.rpm not found on
medium ‘http://ftp.skynet.be/pub/packman/suse/11.1/’
File './suse/x86_64/libmpg123-0-1.6.3-0.pm.1.x86_64.rpm not found on
medium ‘http://ftp.skynet.be/pub/packman/suse/11.1/’
File ‘./suse/x86_64/libfaad0-2.6.1-0.pm.7.x86_64.rpm’ not found on
medium ‘http://ftp.skynet.be/pub/packman/suse/11.1/’
File ‘./suse/x86_64/mpg123-1.6.3-0.pm.1.x86_64.rpm’ not found on medium
‘http://ftp.skynet.be/pub/packman/suse/11.1/’
File ‘./suse/x86_64/libfaac0-1.26-0.pm.0.x86_64.rpm’ not found on medium
‘http://ftp.skynet.be/pub/packman/suse/11.1/’
I just looked:
Index of /suse/11.1/x86_64
the files are there.
Likely you lost contact with the packman site for some reason. Perhaps you are behind a proxy, or perhaps some other problem.
You need to try again, and if behind a proxy, sort your problem there.
oldcpu wrote:
> Robert Carlson;1917387 Wrote:
>> oldcpu wrote:
>>
>>> Then please follow my advise in post#8, in terms of setting up your
>>> repos with OSS, Non-OSS, Update, and packman. And then installing
>>> smplayer, mplayerplug-in, libxine1, xine-ui, amarok, amarok-xine,
>> vlc,
>>> libffmpeg0, w32codec-all … all from Packman.
>>>
>>>
>> Only packman needed adding, but after adding it, I tried to install
>> smplayer. YaST found it, but then there was one error after another
>> relating to files not found on the packman site:
>
> I just looked:
> ‘Index of /suse/11.1/x86_64’
> (http://packman.iu-bremen.de/suse/11.1/x86_64/)
>
> the files are there.
Sure, but that ISN’T the site that the Communities tab points one to.
>
> Likely you lost contact with the packman site for some reason. Perhaps
> you are behind a proxy, or perhaps some other problem.
>
> You need to try again, and if behind a proxy, sort your problem there.
The only site that the Communities tab brings up for Packman is:
http://ftp.skynet.be/pub/packman/suse/11.1/
The files are not there.
When I manually set up the Packman Repository by choosing “Specify URL”
and inserted ‘http://packman.iu-bremen.de/suse/11.1’, then smplayer
installed okay. So it wasn’t a proxy issue; hopefully, this problem can
be corrected such that the Communities tab brings up a correct Packman
site.
Thanks, I’ll try that later this week. Have a day job that does interfere. Also, noted another interesting glitch. Just did a new total re-install and selected gnome as default. Also selected under software to install KDE 4 and 3. Upon reboot I go directly to the gnome login and do not get to select what I want to start. Didn’t see this one in 11.0. Out of curiosity, how buggy is 11.1? I’m seeing inconsistencies and things not responding as expected from 11.0 experience.
I just looked:
Index of /pub/packman/suse/11.1/x86_64
… the files are there. …
This is not a URL issue. It is something else IMHO. Simply try again, or sort your proxy if that is the issue. Perhaps you need to disable ipv6 (I don’t know what the problem is on your end, but it is important and should IMHO be addressed).
There is a raging debate going on about that.
I find 11.1 the best openSUSE release yet. … others disagree.
Many of those who disagree are spouting nonsense. For example one stated 11.1 was the worst release since SuSE-9.x. Which is nonsense. There is not a 9.x release of SuSE that could hold a functional candle to 11.1. But it is indicative of the silly statements being made by those grinding an axe. All rationality has been lost in the emotion of frustration.
Users who are dependent on samba and vnc and some intel graphics are not happy campers. Fixing some stuff (going from 11.0 to 11.1) and adding some stuff (in going from 11.0 to 11.1) caused some breakage that should IMHO be fixed in the next 2 months or so. That always IMHO happens with a new openSUSE release (indeed happens with every distribution - those who say otherwise have not really examined in detail other releases nor other distribution releases).
Users who needed sound working are happier since 11.1 works better with sound. 11.1 has better tablet support. 11.1 has better wireless support (albeit more work is needed). 11.1 mostly has newer graphic support (with exception of some Intel hardware and some other specific hardware). 11.1 has newer software across the board in most applications (which means improved functionality and better security - BUT there are exceptions that has the “axe grinders” rilled) . KDE-4.1.3 while still needing work, is light years ahead of KDE-4.0.4 in 11.0. KDE-3.5.10 in 11.1 is superior to KDE-3.5.9 in 11.0. 11.1 is the first openSUSE release to have hot plug NTFS external drive read/write support out of the box (with no custom tweaks necessary). … there are many other improvements.
For the things that I do, 11.1 is superior to 10.2 (on my mother’s PC), superior to 10.3 (which was on 4 of the 5 PCs in our apartment) and superior to 11.0 (which was on one PC in our apartment). I did not update from 10.3 to 11.0, as 11.0 did not offer enough to make it worth my while. 11.1 does, and I’m updating most family PCs to 11.1.
But as I note, there is a raging debate going on.
oldcpu wrote:
> Robert Carlson;1917443 Wrote:
>> The only site that the Communities tab brings up for Packman is:
>>
>> ‘Index of /pub/packman/suse/11.1’
>> (http://ftp.skynet.be/pub/packman/suse/11.1/)
>>
>> The files are not there.
>>
> I just looked:
> ‘Index of /pub/packman/suse/11.1/x86_64’
> (http://ftp.skynet.be/pub/packman/suse/11.1/x86_64/)
> … the files are there. …
>
> This is not a URL issue. It is something else IMHO. Simply try again,
> or sort your proxy if that is the issue. Perhaps you need to disable
> ipv6 (I don’t know what the problem is on your end, but it is important
> and should IMHO be addressed).
Nope. I didn’t disable ipv6, as I completed the installation of the
packages that you said were necessary before seeing this. There was
only one additional issue that I ran into. I needed to manually get
libcaca0 because the install of xine-ui couldn’t get it. In any case,
following the completion of the w32codec-all file, I now have Amarok
running and playing fine. I haven’t yet checked to see whether other
sounds (e.g. following bootup) are playing, but I would assume so.
It is simply a fact that the URL that the Communities tab gets for
Packman is not usable, at least from my location or perhaps for 11.1
x86_64. The solution for me, again, was to delete that repository and
manually add the following using the option Specify URL:
oldcpu wrote:
> sharpre;1917456 Wrote:
>> Out of curiosity, how buggy is 11.1? I’m seeing inconsistencies and
>> things not responding as expected from 11.0 experience.There is a raging debate going on about that.
>
> I find 11.1 the best openSUSE release yet. … others disagree.
…
> 11.1 mostly has newer graphic support
> (with exception of some Intel hardware and some other specific
> hardware).
…
Don’t have anything to add to the debate but just hope to make further
progress resolving the Intel sound issue. Although I do now have sound
in Amarok, I do not get sound when I test in YaST, and if I try to run a
YouTube video, I get an error about a missing codec. I get no video
but sound for a brief instant but not more. The following have all been
installed:
smplayer, mplayerplug-in, libxine1, xine-ui, amarok, amarok-xine, vlc,
libffmpeg0, w32codec-all
I’m wondering if this might be a 64-bit issue wrt flash-player and codecs. You will need a 64-bit user to help you here, and I think to get that you should start a new thread on this.
oldcpu wrote:
> Robert Carlson;1917511 Wrote:
>> Don’t have anything to add to the debate but just hope to make further
>> progress resolving the Intel sound issue. Although I do now have sound
>> in Amarok, I do not get sound when I test in YaST, and if I try to run a
>> YouTube video, I get an error about a missing codec. I get no video but
>> sound for a brief instant but not more. I’m wondering if this might be a 64-bit issue wrt flash-player and
> codecs. You will need a 64-bit user to help you here, and I think to
> get that you should start a new thread on this.
>
>
Don’t know that it will be worth the bother after I installed Gramps 3.0
genealogy app and can’t even get it to run. Other users of openSUSE
11.1 have reported the same problem. I could try to drop back to
version 2.2 of the app, but YaST won’t uninstall the 3.0 version. I
have been a happy with openSUSE since I first installed it about 2 years
ago, and I would be reluctant to change, but I may have no choice.