The generic box is currently running SUSE 10.3 smooth and stable, and 11.0 boots
and runs GOOD from a live CD with KDE4. (And, it has successfully run many
flavours of Linux, and other non-M$ systems.)
Trying 11.1 Beta 2. Every time (no matter what I can think of to try) it fails
somewhere after that long list of USB setups flashes by during the boot process.
I can NOT see what the last successful item is, nor what the last line reads for
one micro second before it quits and reboots.
Is there a way to SLOW DOWN the boot process so I can actually SEE what the last
line is before it coughs and reboots?
I’m looking for help because I’d like to resolve this and log a bug if we can
find out what the problem is. Following is a hardware list and all the things I
have tried (before responding to try acpi=off, PLEASE read my list and don’t).
Where is the list of other things I SHOULD try before asking for help here?
HARDWARE:
motherboard ASRock K8Upgrade-760GX
CPU Socket 754 AMD 64-bit Athlon 64
Hybrid Booster - CPU Frequency Stepless control
Chipset - Northbridge: SiS 760GX
South Bridge: SiS 964 Chipset
BIOS - 2Mb AMI BIOS with ACPI, SM BIOS 3.0, PnP
Audio - CMedia 9761 6channel AC’97 audio code
LAN - Realtek RTL8201 10/100 Ethernet LAN PHY
powersupply: Altis ATX-300P
Audio: 5.1 channels AC’97 Audio
nVidia GeForce FX 5500 with 3D support
I have MORE, just ask if you need!
HAVE DONE:
Checked md5sum prior to burning CD
Burned CD at slowest possible speed
CD’s media check used, no problems detected
RAM tested ok (it has been checked for days with no problems)
All USB devices disconnected (also tried with USB mouse and webcam working)
All hard drives unplugged and unpowered (also tried with IDE & SATA working)
HAVE TRIED:
video modes
– 1024x768
– 800x600
– VESA
– video=vga
text mode
failsafe
noapic
nolapic
nosmp
acpi=off
acpi=noirq
acpi_use_timer_override
noscsi
nousb
nousebtorage
clock=pit
I know all you experts are busy with lives and your own goals and problems, and
I VERY MUCH thank you in advance for any assistance and guidance you may offer.
Thank You,
beta Tester
PS: I am not a hacker, but I have been using a variety of PCs since 1986/7 and
several different operating systems. I’m not afraid of the command line, but am
no expert by ANY stretch of the imagination.
When this happens to me, I pull out my digital still camera, select its low quality video mode, and take a video of my PCs screen while the PC is booting.
Reference the install problem, did you try installing with no USB devices connected?
Prior to burning the DVD for installing, did you check the md5sum of the downloaded iso file against the md5sum on the web site? After burning, did you do the media check on the DVD?
Looks like you have tried most of the upfront things I would have recommended, well done:)
I recommend you skip Beta2 and go for Beta3. However & for right now the only way is to update from Beta2 or do a network install. Boot with one of these mini CDs Index of /pub/opensuse/factory/iso and off you go – it should have the repro already loaded, if not, hit back and load a working mirror.
Better yet, wait until late tonight or tomorrow and get the CD/DVDs (unless they hit a major snag). I’ll be in the queue too.
Also, last time we initially had to use a torrent client; I’d load/install/test one. If you use Vuse (Azereus) do the NAT test; you may have to open a firewall port or it will be slower than the seven year itch.
oldcpu wrote:
> betaTester;1885648 Wrote:
>> I can NOT see what the last successful item is, nor what the last line
>> reads for
>> one micro second before it quits and reboots.
> When this happens to me, I pull out my digital still camera, select its
> low quality video mode, and take a video of my PCs screen while the PC
> is booting.
GOOD tip, thanks!
> Reference the install problem, did you try installing with no USB
> devices connected?
Reference my initial posting: “before responding to try acpi=off, PLEASE read my
list and don’t” and SHAME ON YOU, go back and READ “All USB devices disconnected
(also tried with USB mouse and webcam working)”.
> Prior to burning the DVD for installing, did you check the md5sum of
> the downloaded iso file against the md5sum on the web site?
DOUBLE SHAME ON YOU: I wrote “Checked md5sum prior to burning CD”.
> After burning, did you do the media check on the DVD?
THREE STRIKES, YOU ARE OUT: I wrote “CD’s media check used, no problems detected”.
I asked “Prior to burning the DVD for installing, did you check the md5sum of the downloaded iso file against the md5sum on the web site?”
You might be surprised at the number of occasions when users stated they had checked the md5sum prior to burning, and they interpreted that as looking at the md5sum, but not comparing the ISO file md5sum to that on the web site.
So your statement “Checked md5sum prior to burning CD”, based on my experience helping users on this forum, was not explicit enough.
So, I ask again, prior to burning the DVD for installing, did you check the md5sum of the downloaded iso file against the md5sum on the web site?
Reference your install attempt(s), I had a case a couple of years ago, where I went to install openSUSE-10.1 (and 10.2) on an old PC, with the boxed CD (and also with a burned CD that I knew to be good) and both installs failed on this old PC. Now I had installed an OS on this PC a year previous with no problems, so had thought (mistakenly) the CD drive was good.
It turns out the CD drive was bad, and in the course of the one year, had deteriorated such that it could no longer accurately read a CD for installation.
So IMHO, if there have been some months since your last successful OS install on this PC (from the DVD drive) there is a slight (albeit very low) possibility that your DVD reader could be bad and causing this problem.
Good luck with any efforts to record the screen messages with a digital video camera.
If you manage to capture the error message just before the failure, you could then take that information, and submit a bug report on 11.1 beta2. Submitting Bug Reports - openSUSE
I note beta3 will be released soon, but IMHO if it did not work on beta2, there is a strong likelihood that beta3 will have the same problem.
> So, I ask again, prior to burning the DVD for installing, did you check
> the md5sum of the downloaded iso file against the md5sum on the web
> site?
Maybe I should have posted: I know how to read.
Yes! I “Checked md5sum prior to burning” which does NOT mean “looking at the
md5sum, but not comparing the ISO file md5sum to that on the web site”. Instead,
I opened a terminal, cd’ed to the correct location and ran
Thank you to oldcpu and snakedriver. I never did get a readable video of the
screen during a failed boot. But, never mind since Beta 3 boots and runs fine!
I got in opposite: 10.3, 11.0 (release), 11.1-beta2 - all running perfectly but 11.1-beta3 doesn’t want to boot (i386DVD):
.usb3.2 new full speed usb device using uhci_hcd and address 4
usb3.2 configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice
usb3.2 new usb device found IDVendor 046d IDProduct 08d9
usb3.2 new usb device strings Mfr=0 Product=0 SerialNumber=0
usb3.2 …could not find dev/disk/by-ID/ata ST…(my HD)
do you want me to fall back to ST…(myHD)-part8 y/n?
y
not found exiting to bin/sh
Since I don’t know what to do with this prompt I tried to reinstall…Gnome, KDE - same result. Repair-same result but menu.lst changed to just 2 entries: Suse and failsafe boot which brings to the same result as default boot. Tried acpi=off - the same result.
md5sum showed full match for md5 from website. Burned @x4.
Hardware: AsusP4/333, cpu Intel 2.4Ghz, mem 768MB, NVdia GForce3Ti200, Master HD Seagate ST…250GB, Slave Matrox 40GB.
Partitions on master HD: 1-pcbsd7;2-freeBSD;3-data;4(extended):
4.1-ubuntu8.04, 4.2-Mandriva2009, 4.3-Suse11.1-beta3, 4.4-Elive;
4.5-empty ext2. Tried grub istall on mbr, /boot, both - doesn’t help. I have gag bootmanager on floppy.
What could be wrong?