The system area of my Gnome menu, which until recently showed entries
to start YaST, log off, or shut down, among others, is suddenly
completely empty. Only the title “System” remains. Below it, a blank
area extends to the next title “Status”, below which the usual “Hard
Disk” and “Network” entries still appear. Needless to say, this is a
bit inconvenient.
The one thing I did before that happened is installing openSUSE 11.1
in a new partition, mounting the existing /home partition into it,
and logging in to my regular user account to see whether it worked.
After rebooting back to the previous openSUSE 10.3 installation
and logging in to the same account again, the system menu content
was gone. So I imagine the 11.1 Gnome has modified something in my
profile in a way the 10.3 Gnome doesn’t like.
Any idea for a quick, makeshift fix? I’ll switch over to 11.1 as soon
as I find the time to complete the installation, but until then I’ll
still have to get some work done using the 10.3 one.
Malcolm schrieb:
> Create a new user and just copy over your data and chown on the
> files…
Aw, I was afraid you would say that. But my home directory is
50 gigabytes and I would prefer not to create a copy of all that
stuff. Backing it up regularly is difficult enough as it is.
> You might also try moving your ~/.gconf ~/.gnome and ~/.gnome2 files to
> a backup name and try logout/login.
Ok, I’ll try that. There are also a ~/.gconf2_private and
~/.gconfd directories which I guess by way of analogy would also
be good to move aside.
But I would still feel more comfortable if I knew what I was
doing. No-one knows where the common garden Gnome keeps that
system menu of his, so I can go for it with a scalpel instead of
a sledgehammer?
Hi
I would say the different gnome version 11.1 being 2.24 schema, menu
changes etc
I have now changed my partitioning these days with a data partition
instead of /home and just create a / which includes home. Then I create
softlinks in the /home to my application data eg claws mail, cxoffice,
gkrellm etc then let the OS/DE tend to it’s own business.
–
Cheers Malcolm °¿° (Linux Counter #276890)
openSUSE 11.1 x86 Kernel 2.6.27.7-9-default
up 2 days 13:20, 2 users, load average: 0.09, 0.04, 0.03
GPU GeForce 6600 TE/6200 TE - Driver Version: 180.29
> Hi
> Create a new user and just copy over your data and chown on the
> files…
>
> You might also try moving your ~/.gconf ~/.gnome and ~/.gnome2 files to
> a backup name and try logout/login.
That didn’t help.
In fact, what I did was this: I switched to runlevel 3 just to make sure
nothing of Gnome was still hanging around, then logged in to my account
on the text console, ran the commands:
mkdir xyzzy
mv .g?o* xyzzy
in order to move all of .gconf .gconfd .gnome .gnome2 .gnome2_private
to an strangely-named subdirectory where Gnome shouldn’t be able to
find them anymore, switched back to runlevel 5 and logged in graphically
again. The result: my font settings are lost, the usual first time
greeting of Gnome appeared, but the System area of the Gnome menu is
still as empty as before.
If nobody has a better idea, next thing I’ll try will be to move my
entire home directory out of the way.
Malcolm schrieb:
> Create a new user and just copy over your data and chown on the
> files…
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Ok, I did that and it didn’t help either, but it turned out that was
because a process named /usr/lib/GConf/2/gconf-2 was still running.
Through a series of experiments I discovered that this process is
started when I log in to a Gnome session, but not terminated when I
log off, that process seems to keep my current Gnome session
parameters alive, including the absence of menu entries in the
system area.
After killing that process, moving my old home directory aside and
creating a new, empty one did indeed restore my Gnome menu, but there
were so many other things lost that I went back to your alternative
proposition:
> You might also try moving your ~/.gconf ~/.gnome and ~/.gnome2 files to
> a backup name and try logout/login.
Just moving these out of the way turned out not to be sufficient, but
after moving all of:
to a backup directory (and killing gconf-2 again of course), lo and
behold, my Gnome menu was complete again. There’s still a bit of
fallout from that operation but far less than by recreating the
complete home directory.
Still, I’m curious. If anyone can tell me where that part of the Gnome
menu, with the entries
Help
Kontrollzentrum
Installieren von Software
Lock Screen
Logout
Shutdown
(indeed with that odd mixture of English and localized captions)
comes from, I would like to examine the backed-up versions of the
config directories above in order to find out what happened.
Malcolm schrieb:
> Create a new user and just copy over your data and chown on the
> files…
Aw, I was afraid you would say that. But my home directory is
50 gigabytes and I would prefer not to create a copy of all that
stuff. Backing it up regularly is difficult enough as it is.
> You might also try moving your ~/.gconf ~/.gnome and ~/.gnome2 files to
> a backup name and try logout/login.
Ok, I’ll try that. There are also a ~/.gconf2_private and
~/.gconfd directories which I guess by way of analogy would also
be good to move aside.
But I would still feel more comfortable if I knew what I was
doing. No-one knows where the common garden Gnome keeps that
system menu of his, so I can go for it with a scalpel instead of
a sledgehammer?
Hi
I would say the different gnome version 11.1 being 2.24 schema, menu
changes etc
I have now changed my partitioning these days with a data partition
instead of /home and just create a / which includes home. Then I create
softlinks in the /home to my application data eg claws mail, cxoffice,
gkrellm etc then let the OS/DE tend to it’s own business.
–
Cheers Malcolm °¿° (Linux Counter #276890)
openSUSE 11.1 x86 Kernel 2.6.27.7-9-default
up 2 days 13:20, 2 users, load average: 0.09, 0.04, 0.03
GPU GeForce 6600 TE/6200 TE - Driver Version: 180.29
