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    Default Leaving Tumbleweed for 15.4: what is the best way?

    I installed openFOAM some months after having switched to Tumbleweed. It turned out that openFOAM blocks updates to Tumbleweed. In the meantime, 15.4 is out and includes SLES.

    The first I want/have to do is doing a complete backup of mails and all user data. What I am uncertain about is how to replace TW with 15.4. One way would be (after backup!) to reformat the 1 TB SSD to have a 'clean' disk, but that seems to me to be exaggerated. Suggestions are welcome!

    BTW: It is my understanding that going from Tumbleweed to 15.4 may be of interest to others than me.

    Best regards,
    Jan Christian Anker

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    Default Re: Leaving Tumbleweed for 15.4: what is the best way?

    Quote Originally Posted by jc_anker View Post
    I installed openFOAM some months after having switched to Tumbleweed. It turned out that openFOAM blocks updates to Tumbleweed.
    Are you sure? openfoam readily installs here:
    Code:
    erlangen:~ # zypper lr -E  
    #  | Alias                | Enabled | GPG Check | Priority | URI 
    ---+----------------------+---------+-----------+----------+--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 
     6 | Packman              | Yes     | (r ) Yes  |   90     | https://ftp.fau.de/packman/suse/openSUSE_Tumbleweed/ 
    18 | non-oss              | Yes     | (r ) Yes  |   99     | https://mirrorcache-eu.opensuse.org/tumbleweed/repo/non-oss/ 
    20 | oss                  | Yes     | (r ) Yes  |   99     | https://mirrorcache-eu.opensuse.org/tumbleweed/repo/oss/ 
    27 | update               | Yes     | (r ) Yes  |   99     | https://mirrorcache-eu.opensuse.org/update/tumbleweed/ 
     8 | chrome               | Yes     | (r ) Yes  |  100     | https://dl.google.com/linux/chrome/rpm/stable/x86_64 
    13 | home_kukuk_qmapshack | Yes     | (r ) Yes  |  100     | https://mirrorcache-eu.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/kukuk:/qmapshack/openSUSE_Tumbleweed/ 
    14 | jalbum               | Yes     | (  ) No   |  100     | https://jalbum.net/download/software/yumrepo/ 
    17 | myrepo               | Yes     | (  ) No   |  100     | dir:/home/karl/Downloads/myrepo 
    24 | science              | Yes     | (r ) Yes  |  100     | https://mirrorcache-eu.opensuse.org/repositories/science/openSUSE_Tumbleweed/ 
    erlangen:~ #
    Code:
    erlangen:~ # zypper if openfoam2206 
    Loading repository data... 
    Reading installed packages... 
    
    
    Information for package openfoam2206: 
    ------------------------------------- 
    Repository     : Software for Scientists and Engineers (openSUSE_Tumbleweed) 
    Name           : openfoam2206 
    Version        : 2206.1-1.6 
    Arch           : x86_64 
    Vendor         : obs://build.opensuse.org/science 
    Installed Size : 545.6 MiB 
    Installed      : Yes (automatically) 
    Status         : up-to-date 
    Source package : openfoam2206-2206.1-1.6.src 
    Upstream URL   : http://www.openfoam.com 
    Summary        : Free, Open Source, Computational Fluid Dynamics Package 
    Description    :  
        OpenFOAM is a free, open source computational fluid dynamics (CFD) 
        software package produced by OpenCFD Ltd with twice yearly releases. 
    
        It has a large user base across many areas of engineering and science, 
        used in academic, government and commercial organizations. 
    
        OpenFOAM has an extensive range of features to solve anything from 
        complex fluid flows involving chemical reactions, turbulence and heat 
        transfer, to solid dynamics and electromagnetics. 
    
        * Release notes:  https://www.openfoam.com/news/main-news/openfoam-v2206 
        * Documentation:  https://www.openfoam.com/documentation/ 
        * Issue Tracker:  https://develop.openfoam.com/Development/openfoam/issues/ 
    
        Shell session:  /usr/bin/openfoam2206 
        Resource file:  /usr/lib/openfoam/openfoam2206/etc/bashrc 
    
        NOTE: The version in this package may not include any additional ParaView 
        reader plugins, runTimePostProcessing etc. 
    
    erlangen:~ #
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    Default Re: Leaving Tumbleweed for 15.4: what is the best way?

    Quote Originally Posted by jc_anker View Post
    ... how to replace TW with 15.4. One way would be (after backup!) to reformat the 1 TB SSD to have a 'clean' disk, but that seems to me to be exaggerated. Suggestions are welcome!
    Searching the forum I found this thread which might answer your question.

    Regards

    susejunky

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    Default Re: Leaving Tumbleweed for 15.4: what is the best way?

    [QUOTE=karlmistelberger;3144916]Are you sure? openfoam readily installs here:
    /QUOTE]

    Code:
    problem with the installed libcerf1-1.17-23.15.x86_64
    the to be installed tlp-1.5.0-1.1.noarch conflicts with 
    'power-profiles-daemon' provided by the to be 
    installed power-profiles-daemon-0.12-1.1.x86_64
    Installing openFOAM under Tumbleweed is no problem, the problem is that openFOAM blocks Tumbleweed updates.

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    Default Re: Leaving Tumbleweed for 15.4: what is the best way?

    Quote Originally Posted by susejunky View Post
    Searching the forum I found this thread which might answer your question.

    Regards

    susejunky
    Bravo and Thank You, the thread
    'https://forums.opensuse.org/showthread.php/567022-Switch-from-tumbleweed-to-leap-15-3-GLIBC_2-34-not-found'
    is a good starting point. In any case, I need to do a full backup, then proceed 'somehow'.

    Jan Christian

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    Default Re: Leaving Tumbleweed for 15.4: what is the best way?

    [QUOTE=jc_anker;3144922]
    Quote Originally Posted by karlmistelberger View Post
    Are you sure? openfoam readily installs here:
    /QUOTE]

    Code:
    problem with the installed libcerf1-1.17-23.15.x86_64
    the to be installed tlp-1.5.0-1.1.noarch conflicts with 
    'power-profiles-daemon' provided by the to be 
    installed power-profiles-daemon-0.12-1.1.x86_64
    Installing openFOAM under Tumbleweed is no problem, the problem is that openFOAM blocks Tumbleweed updates.
    You may safely remove the culprit. Tumbleweed is fine on host erlangen with power-profiles-daemon removed:
    Code:
    erlangen:~ # zypper if power-profiles-daemon
    Loading repository data...
    Reading installed packages...
    
    
    Information for package power-profiles-daemon:
    ----------------------------------------------
    Repository     : Haupt-Repository (OSS)
    Name           : power-profiles-daemon
    Version        : 0.12-1.1
    Arch           : x86_64
    Vendor         : openSUSE
    Installed Size : 123.4 KiB
    Installed      : No
    Status         : not installed
    Source package : power-profiles-daemon-0.12-1.1.src
    Upstream URL   : https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/hadess/power-profiles-daemon
    Summary        : Power profiles handling over D-Bus
    Description    : 
        power-profiles-daemon offers to modify system behaviour based upon user-selected
        power profiles. There are 3 different power profiles: a "balanced" default mode,
        a "power-saver" mode, and a "performance" mode.
    
    erlangen:~ #

    Code:
    erlangen:~ # zypper if libcerf1
    Loading repository data...
    Reading installed packages...
    
    
    Information for package libcerf1:
    ---------------------------------
    Repository     : Haupt-Repository (OSS)
    Name           : libcerf1
    Version        : 1.17-2.3
    Arch           : x86_64
    Vendor         : openSUSE
    Installed Size : 59.2 KiB
    Installed      : Yes
    Status         : up-to-date
    Source package : libcerf-1.17-2.3.src
    Upstream URL   : https://jugit.fz-juelich.de/mlz/libcerf
    Summary        : A library that provides complex error functions
    Description    : 
        libcerf is a self-contained numeric library that provides an efficient and accurate implementation of
        complex error functions, along with Dawson, Faddeeva, and Voigt functions.
    
    erlangen:~ #
    I suggest rethinking and staying with Tumbleweed.
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    Default Re: Leaving Tumbleweed for 15.4: what is the best way?

    Quote Originally Posted by jc_anker View Post

    Code:
    problem with the installed libcerf1-1.17-23.15.x86_64
    the to be installed tlp-1.5.0-1.1.noarch conflicts with 
    'power-profiles-daemon' provided by the to be 
    installed power-profiles-daemon-0.12-1.1.x86_64
    Installing openFOAM under Tumbleweed is no problem, the problem is that openFOAM blocks Tumbleweed updates.
    For details of "problem with the installed libcerf1-1.17-23.15.x86_64" see this bug report: https://bugzilla.suse.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1198549#c4
    Regards, Paul

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    Default Re: Leaving Tumbleweed for 15.4: what is the best way?

    Quote Originally Posted by jc_anker View Post
    Code:
    problem with the installed libcerf1-1.17-23.15.x86_64
    the to be installed tlp-1.5.0-1.1.noarch conflicts with 
    'power-profiles-daemon' provided by the to be 
    installed power-profiles-daemon-0.12-1.1.x86_64
    Installing openFOAM under Tumbleweed is no problem, the problem is that openFOAM blocks Tumbleweed updates.
    a) I fail to find the anything related to openFOAM in the above output
    b) I also do not see how libcerf is related to tlp/power-profiles-daemon or how tlp or power-profiles-daemon is related to openFOAM.

    Show complete command invocation and its full output, not some random lines from it.

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    Default Re: Leaving Tumbleweed for 15.4: what is the best way?

    Quote Originally Posted by arvidjaar View Post
    a) I fail to find the anything related to openFOAM in the above output
    b) I also do not see how libcerf is related to tlp/power-profiles-daemon or how tlp or power-profiles-daemon is related to openFOAM.

    Show complete command invocation and its full output, not some random lines from it.
    The output is what I get when i click on 'Update' for updating Tumbleweed. openFOAM blocks the update (?). What I want is migrating to 15.4. MY understanding is that "There is no official package available for openSUSE Tumbleweed", ref "https://software.opensuse.org/package/openfoam24x", hence I would like to migrate to the latest version of 15.4.

    Jan Christian Anker

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    Default Re: Leaving Tumbleweed for 15.4: what is the best way?

    Quote Originally Posted by jc_anker View Post
    MY understanding is that "There is no official package available for openSUSE Tumbleweed"
    Nope.

    https://build.opensuse.org/package/s...e/openfoam2112
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