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    Cool Just want to give tumbleweed feedback

    I just want to give feedback, I've been using tumbleweed and when i boot my computer it takes soooooooooooooooooooo long to boot up into my kde desktop and everything lags for a short while. I think you should make it almost instant, super fast not waiting 5 minutes to use my computer. same with shutting down if i enter shutdown now or shutdown -r now it should like immediately shutdown. No waiting. That's my feedback. Oh and out of the box kate had to be upgraded to have settings on the kde desktop and i don't like to update things unless i need an update like if a program wont work.

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    Default Re: Just want to give tumbleweed feedback

    Quote Originally Posted by errigour View Post
    I just want to give feedback, I've been using tumbleweed and when i boot my computer it takes soooooooooooooooooooo long to boot up into my kde desktop and everything lags for a short while. I think you should make it almost instant, super fast not waiting 5 minutes to use my computer. same with shutting down if i enter shutdown now or shutdown -r now it should like immediately shutdown.
    More Tumbleweed feedback:

    Startup:
    Code:
    erlangen:~ # journalctl -b -g userspace -o short-monotonic  
    [    5.908003] erlangen systemd[1]: Startup finished in 16.823s (firmware) + 3.606s (loader) + 3.074s (kernel) + 1.647s (initrd) + 1.185s (userspace) = 26.338s. 
    erlangen:~ #
    
    KDE session startup:
    Code:
    erlangen:~ # journalctl -b -u user@1000.service -g Started --since 06:26:40 -o short-monotonic  
    [ 3573.789706] erlangen systemd[1282]: Started KDE Config Module Initialization. 
    [ 3573.824412] erlangen systemd[1282]: Started KDE Daemon. 
    [ 3573.864884] erlangen systemd[1282]: Started KDE Global Shortcuts Server. 
    [ 3573.900510] erlangen systemd[1282]: Started KDE Session Management Server. 
    [ 3573.912656] erlangen systemd[1282]: Started KDE Window Manager. 
    [ 3573.956534] erlangen systemd[1282]: Started KDE Plasma Workspace. 
    [ 3573.957212] erlangen systemd[1282]: Started Proxies GTK DBus menus to a Plasma readable format. 
    [ 3573.958790] erlangen systemd[1282]: Started Handle legacy xembed system tray icons. 
    [ 3574.000561] erlangen systemd[1282]: Started KActivityManager Activity manager Service. 
    [ 3574.003955] erlangen systemd[1282]: Started KDE PolicyKit Authentication Agent. 
    [ 3574.311409] erlangen systemd[1282]: Started Powerdevil. 
    [ 3574.320074] erlangen systemd[1282]: Started Geoclue Demo agent. 
    [ 3574.320141] erlangen systemd[1282]: Started Accessibility. 
    [ 3574.321304] erlangen systemd[1282]: Started Set KDE_FULL_SESSION=1. 
    [ 3574.322678] erlangen systemd[1282]: Started Calendar Reminders. 
    [ 3574.333820] erlangen systemd[1282]: Started KScreen. 
    [ 3574.334272] erlangen systemd[1282]: Started /usr/bin/kalendarac. 
    [ 3574.394733] erlangen systemd[1282]: Started Firefox - Web Browser. 
    [ 3574.460574] erlangen systemd[1282]: Started Virtual filesystem service. 
    [ 3574.493143] erlangen systemd[1282]: Started Konsole - Terminal. 
    [ 3574.541823] erlangen systemd[1282]: Started KMail - E-Mail-Programm. 
    [ 3574.600471] erlangen systemd[1282]: Started Xdg Desktop Portal For KDE. 
    erlangen:~ #
    KDE session startup time = 3574.60 - 3573.78 = 0.82 seconds.

    Shutdown:

    Code:
    erlangen:~ # journalctl -b -1 -u init.scope -g Stopped -o short-monotonic --no-pager 
    [28536.786242] erlangen systemd[1]: Stopped target Graphical Interface.
    [28536.786337] erlangen systemd[1]: Stopped target Multi-User System.
    [28536.786376] erlangen systemd[1]: Stopped target Login Prompts.
    [28536.786413] erlangen systemd[1]: Stopped target Sound Card.
    [28536.786444] erlangen systemd[1]: Stopped target Timer Units.
    [28536.794484] erlangen systemd[1]: Stopped Backup of /home.
    [28536.795068] erlangen systemd[1]: Stopped Backup of RPM database.
    [28536.795250] erlangen systemd[1]: Stopped Backup of /etc/sysconfig.
    [28536.795305] erlangen systemd[1]: Stopped Balance block groups on a btrfs filesystem.
    [28536.795358] erlangen systemd[1]: Stopped Scrub btrfs filesystem, verify block checksums.
    [28536.795413] erlangen systemd[1]: Stopped Check if mainboard battery is Ok.
    [28536.795467] erlangen systemd[1]: Stopped Systemd timer to update the system daily with Zypper.
    [28536.795517] erlangen systemd[1]: Stopped Discard unused blocks once a week.
    [28536.795571] erlangen systemd[1]: Stopped Daily rotation of log files.
    [28536.795628] erlangen systemd[1]: Stopped Daily man-db regeneration.
    [28536.795732] erlangen systemd[1]: Stopped Daily locate database update.
    [28536.795800] erlangen systemd[1]: Stopped Daily Cleanup of Snapper Snapshots.
    [28536.795865] erlangen systemd[1]: Stopped Daily Cleanup of Temporary Directories.
    [28536.796003] erlangen systemd[1]: Stopped auditd rules generation.
    [28536.797352] erlangen systemd[1]: Stopped Apply settings from /etc/sysconfig/keyboard.
    [28536.806885] erlangen systemd[1]: Stopped hd-idle disk spindown service.
    [28536.807242] erlangen systemd[1]: Stopped irqbalance daemon.
    [28536.807596] erlangen systemd[1]: Stopped CUPS Scheduler.
    [28536.808322] erlangen systemd[1]: Stopped Machine Check Exception Logging Daemon.
    [28536.808604] erlangen systemd[1]: Stopped MiniDLNA is a DLNA/UPnP-AV server software.
    [28536.808941] erlangen systemd[1]: Stopped OpenSSH Daemon.
    [28536.809220] erlangen systemd[1]: Stopped Command Scheduler.
    [28536.809528] erlangen systemd[1]: Stopped Daemon for power management.
    [28536.810332] erlangen systemd[1]: Stopped A remote-mail retrieval utility.
    [28536.810676] erlangen systemd[1]: Stopped RealtimeKit Scheduling Policy Service.
    [28536.811402] erlangen systemd[1]: Stopped Getty on tty1.
    [28536.812049] erlangen systemd[1]: Stopped Restore /run/initramfs on shutdown.
    [28536.812485] erlangen systemd[1]: Stopped Load/Save Random Seed.
    [28536.813047] erlangen systemd[1]: Stopped Session 5 of User karl.
    [28536.814616] erlangen systemd[1]: Stopped Start fetchmail.
    [28536.814649] erlangen systemd[1]: Stopped target Network is Online.
    [28536.815317] erlangen systemd[1]: Stopped Hold until boot process finishes up.
    [28536.818501] erlangen systemd[1]: Stopped Authorization Manager.
    [28536.819310] erlangen systemd[1]: Stopped Disk Manager.
    [28536.904558] erlangen systemd[1]: Stopped Initialize hardware monitoring sensors.
    [28537.138240] erlangen systemd[1]: Stopped User Manager for UID 1000.
    [28537.240499] erlangen systemd[1]: Stopped Start the rsync server daemon.
    [28537.240860] erlangen systemd[1]: Stopped User Runtime Directory /run/user/1000.
    [28537.260398] erlangen systemd[1]: Stopped D-Bus System Message Bus.
    [28537.731088] erlangen systemd[1]: Stopped X Display Manager.
    [28537.734925] erlangen systemd[1]: Stopped Permit User Sessions.
    [28537.771753] erlangen systemd[1]: Stopped The Apache Webserver.
    [28537.771860] erlangen systemd[1]: Stopped target Remote File Systems.
    [28537.780759] erlangen systemd[1]: Stopped User Login Management.
    [28537.908492] erlangen systemd[1]: Stopped Postfix Mail Transport Agent.
    [28537.908566] erlangen systemd[1]: Stopped target System Time Synchronized.
    [28537.908586] erlangen systemd[1]: Stopped target System Time Set.
    [28537.909350] erlangen systemd[1]: Stopped NTP client/server.
    [28537.909435] erlangen systemd[1]: Stopped target Basic System.
    [28537.909457] erlangen systemd[1]: Stopped target Network.
    [28537.909470] erlangen systemd[1]: Stopped target Host and Network Name Lookups.
    [28537.909489] erlangen systemd[1]: Stopped target Path Units.
    [28537.928348] erlangen systemd[1]: Stopped Watch /etc/sysconfig/btrfsmaintenance.
    [28537.988561] erlangen systemd[1]: Stopped Watch for changes in CA certificates.
    [28537.988705] erlangen systemd[1]: Stopped CUPS Scheduler.
    [28538.020557] erlangen systemd[1]: Stopped Watch for changes in issue snippets.
    [28538.020673] erlangen systemd[1]: Stopped target Slice Units.
    [28538.020757] erlangen systemd[1]: Stopped target Socket Units.
    [28538.020904] erlangen systemd[1]: Stopped target System Initialization.
    [28538.020974] erlangen systemd[1]: Stopped target Local Encrypted Volumes.
    [28538.036587] erlangen systemd[1]: Stopped Dispatch Password Requests to Console Directory Watch.
    [28538.036673] erlangen systemd[1]: Stopped target Local Integrity Protected Volumes.
    [28538.036698] erlangen systemd[1]: Stopped target Local Verity Protected Volumes.
    [28538.040747] erlangen systemd[1]: Stopped Record System Boot/Shutdown in UTMP.
    [28538.053586] erlangen systemd[1]: Stopped Network Name Resolution.
    [28538.077575] erlangen systemd[1]: Stopped Network Configuration.
    [28538.077876] erlangen systemd[1]: Stopped Apply Kernel Variables.
    [28538.077924] erlangen systemd[1]: Stopped Apply Kernel Variables for 5.18.9-2-default.
    [28538.077962] erlangen systemd[1]: Stopped Load Kernel Modules.
    [28538.099327] erlangen systemd[1]: Stopped Security Auditing Service.
    [28538.099424] erlangen systemd[1]: Stopped Create Volatile Files and Directories.
    [28538.099445] erlangen systemd[1]: Stopped target Local File Systems.
    [28538.104395] erlangen systemd[1]: Stopped target Swaps.
    erlangen:~ # 
    Shutdown time = 28538.10 - 28536.78 = 1.32 seconds.

    Code:
    erlangen:~ # inxi -zMCDm 
    Machine:
      Type: Desktop Mobo: Micro-Star model: B550-A PRO (MS-7C56) v: 2.0 
        serial: <filter> UEFI: American Megatrends LLC. v: A.90 date: 03/17/2022 
    Memory:
      RAM:total: 31.26 GiB used: 4.08 GiB (13.1%) 
      Array-1:capacity: 128 GiB slots: 4 EC: None 
      Device-1: DIMM 0 type: no module installed 
      Device-2: DIMM 1 type: DDR4 size: 16 GiB speed: 3200 MT/s 
      Device-3: DIMM 0 type: no module installed 
      Device-4: DIMM 1 type: DDR4 size: 16 GiB speed: 3200 MT/s 
    CPU:
      Info: 6-core model: AMD Ryzen 5 5600X bits: 64 type: MT MCP cache:
        L2: 3 MiB 
      Speed (MHz):avg: 2250 min/max: 2200/4650 cores:1: 2200 2: 2200 3: 2800 
        4: 2200 5: 2200 6: 2200 7: 2200 8: 2200 9: 2200 10: 2200 11: 2200 12: 2200 
    Drives:
      Local Storage:total: 3.64 TiB used: 1.77 TiB (48.7%) 
      ID-1: /dev/nvme0n1 vendor: Samsung model: SSD 970 EVO Plus 2TB 
        size: 1.82 TiB 
      ID-2: /dev/sdc vendor: Crucial model: CT2000BX500SSD1 size: 1.82 TiB 
    erlangen:~ #
    You may run the above on your machine.

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    Default Re: Just want to give tumbleweed feedback

    I dont understand what all that is can you explain? Should i type all that to make it faster?

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    Default Re: Just want to give tumbleweed feedback

    Quote Originally Posted by errigour View Post
    I just want to give feedback, I've been using tumbleweed and when i boot my computer it takes soooooooooooooooooooo long to boot up into my kde desktop and everything lags for a short while. I think you should make it almost instant, super fast not waiting 5 minutes to use my computer. same with shutting down if i enter shutdown now or shutdown -r now it should like immediately shutdown. No waiting. That's my feedback. Oh and out of the box kate had to be upgraded to have settings on the kde desktop and i don't like to update things unless i need an update like if a program wont work.
    Well You dont really give any information. Tumbleweed is a rolling release and as such needs regularly updating, if you don't want that then don't use Tumblewed install Leap the stable release. Mine boots up in around 20-30 seconds into KDE usable desktop, you do not say what processor or memory your system has and what kind of hard disks, an SSD makes it a lot faster.

    If you want to use Tumbleweed then take a look at the first line in each of those code snippets and run each command in a console window and post the results here together with an overview of your hardware and you may get some help.

    Stuart

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    Default Re: Just want to give tumbleweed feedback

    Why don't you ask, at best with some factual information, but if you do not know which commands to use then ask for it) one of the technical help sub-forums, I assume Install/Boot/Login is the best one). Then people will probably try to help you with a support. When you do not want support (posting here), there is hardly anything you can expect, except people telling you that they do not have that slow boot/login combination. Or do you really think that everybody waits 5 minutes after switching the system on before they can start working on it?

    And please be aware of the difference between booting and log-in (in e.g. KDE). There is not such a thing as "booting into KDE".

    And as suggested above, when you so not like to update a program unless needed because of e.g. security reasons, then why did you choose for Tumbleweed instead of Leap?
    Henk van Velden

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