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    Default The future of OpenSUSE Leap

    Hi,

    I just read the following news about OpenSUSE Leap on Distrowatch:

    While SUSE has been quiet about what exactly will happen next, it looks like SLE will become a minimal, transactional base, downstream of openSUSE Tumbleweed. Meanwhile Leap may be phased out, though confirmation has not yet been published about these plans.
    For the record, OpenSUSE Leap + KDE is running perfectly in our local school. What is it with distribution maintainers jumping ship and pulling the carpet from under our feet? Two years ago CentOS went down the drain (or more like up the drain to be exact). Now it looks like SUSE wants to improve Leap to death.

    Tumbleweed is not an option. You don't use rolling releases on production machines. Never ever. I know, I ran Arch on production desktop clients back in 2006.

    Any sense of perennity anyone? Or do we all have to move to Debian?

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    Default Re: The future of OpenSUSE Leap

    The part which you quoted is a wild guess from distrowatch, which is not backed by any facts.

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    Default Re: The future of OpenSUSE Leap

    Distrowatch keeps posting these articles about openSUSE dying or SUSE in general croaking every few years when they want to get more hits.

    At least they're not as bad as Roy, even though they're typically hyperbole about everything - much like Register which I wouldn't even use to wipe my butt if it came in physical form.
    .: miuku @ #opensuse @ irc.libera.chat

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    Question Re: The future of OpenSUSE Leap

    Quote Originally Posted by microlinux View Post
    I just read the following news about OpenSUSE Leap on Distrowatch:
    Maybe you should have noticed the 2022 openSUSE Conference and, two of the Friday morning sessions –
    Leap is dead - We need a new development model” – <https://events.opensuse.org/conferen...proposals/3773>.
    ALP Roast - An open discussion with the ALP Steering Committee” – <https://events.opensuse.org/conferen...proposals/3883>.

    The basic problem and/or issue is –
    • An elephant in the room – which is affected all Linux distributions.
    • Initially the versions of script languages Python and Ruby …

    Currently, it comes down to, the problems and issues around the installed versions of Python and Ruby being used by the system as such and, the Python and Ruby versions needed by some applications and, how to deal with the resulting version mismatches …

    And, how to deal with with the Server versus Desktop scenarios …

    Unfortunately, the Conference Videos are not yet available but, mailing lists related to the ALP project are being put in place and, at the conference there was a call for volunteers …

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    Default Re: The future of OpenSUSE Leap

    There's a special place in hell for folks who argue against stable releases, where they spend a few millions years managing thousands of desktop clients with regular driver breakage, inconsistent APIs, unresolved dependencies, obsolete syntax and other daily surprises.

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    Default Re: The future of OpenSUSE Leap

    Current Leap is based on SLE.
    SLE successor is to be based on ALP, see https://lists.opensuse.org/archives/...XRF3MVLF6HW4W/
    There's this misterious ticket about Leap migration to ALP, see https://code.opensuse.org/leap/features/issue/72

    Want to keep usnig Leap? Then learn and contribute to ALP.
    openSUSE Tumbleweed

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    Default Re: The future of OpenSUSE Leap

    Quote Originally Posted by awerlang View Post
    Want to keep usnig Leap? Then learn and contribute to ALP.
    Guess I'll move to Debian Stable.

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    Default Re: The future of OpenSUSE Leap

    Quote Originally Posted by microlinux View Post
    Guess I'll move to Debian Stable.
    Good luck then (with a distribution which even struggles to to keep actual/secure browser versions ....).

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    Default Re: The future of OpenSUSE Leap

    Quote Originally Posted by awerlang View Post
    Current Leap is based on SLE.
    SLE successor is to be based on ALP, see https://lists.opensuse.org/archives/...XRF3MVLF6HW4W/
    There's this misterious ticket about Leap migration to ALP, see https://code.opensuse.org/leap/features/issue/72

    Want to keep usnig Leap? Then learn and contribute to ALP.
    Hi, -yes. Scaring. It's supposed to be what the market/customers want. Ordinary users? I don't know enough yet but,., Developers in the free run and promises.

    Regards
    I'm shameless like others in the forum -was I to any help or made sense? If yes: click the on the star below to the left. Written whit a ;-) in my eye.

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    Default Re: The future of OpenSUSE Leap

    Quote Originally Posted by hui View Post
    Good luck then (with a distribution which even struggles to to keep actual/secure browser versions ....).
    Explaining distribution release cycles and the concept of low-risk security updates and backports to my students is part of my job, you know.

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