"2321" packages to upgrade . . . on reboot another "204" yet to go?? Why???

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Hi
Correct, just different ways to see how the computer is running. The mprime (prime95) tool is very useful if overclocking cpu and/or ram to test it's producing no errors, make small changes to speed, voltage etc and test.

@malcolmlewis:

Ah . . . OK . . . . Well, I'm definitely not "overclocking" this cpu. I did mess with that in my '00 PowerMac to get it to something like "1.2GHz" a few years back, trying to keep it "viable" in today's internet . . . but then I guess the power supply took a dive . . . . So I can get mind-boggling PPC speeds for 20 minutes or so . . . then fade to black . . . .

I should be rotating back to TW tomorrow, so I'll try to run the complete "onemkl" testing and see if it "passes" the entire test . . . got it up to "18K" as posted before and it "passed" up to that level before I . . . what, ctrl + z'd out of it . . . . Had other stuff to do. Life stuff.

[malcolmlewis]

@malcolmlewis:

Ah . . . OK . . . . Well, I'm definitely not "overclocking" this cpu. I did mess with that in my '00 PowerMac to get it to something like "1.2GHz" a few years back, trying to keep it "viable" in today's internet . . . but then I guess the power supply took a dive . . . . So I can get mind-boggling PPC speeds for 20 minutes or so . . . then fade to black . . . .

I should be rotating back to TW tomorrow, so I'll try to run the complete "onemkl" testing and see if it "passes" the entire test . . . got it up to "18K" as posted before and it "passed" up to that level before I . . . what, ctrl + z'd out of it . . . . Had other stuff to do. Life stuff.

Hi
Yes, that may be the limit for that cpu.....

So if I use rust and multithreading, the bash example on this machine (only uses a single core) takes around 16 seconds, with rust and 24 cores it takes 1.12 seconds to 5000 decimal places

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Hi
Yes, that may be the limit for that cpu.....

So if I use rust and multithreading, the bash example on this machine (only uses a single core) takes around 16 seconds, with rust and 24 cores it takes 1.12 seconds to 5000 decimal places

To quote a famous line . . . "rust never sleeps" . . . it just gets "rustier" . . . ???

[karlmistelberger]

Leap-15-4:~ # systemctl cat dup-15.4.service                      
# /etc/systemd/system/dup-15.4.service
[Unit] 
Description=Upgrade to Leap 15.4 

[Service] 
ExecStart=/usr/bin/zypper --releasever=15.4 dup --no-confirm --allow-vendor-change 
Leap-15-4:~ #

Leap-15-4:~ # journalctl -b -1 -u dup-15.4.service -g Pakete 
Jul 04 13:53:54 Leap-15-3 zypper[14482]: Installierte Pakete werden gelesen... 
Jul 04 13:53:55 Leap-15-3 zypper[14482]: Die folgenden 1380 Pakete werden aktualisiert: 
Jul 04 13:53:55 Leap-15-3 zypper[14482]: Die folgenden 60 Pakete werden durch eine ältere Version ausgetauscht: 
Jul 04 13:53:55 Leap-15-3 zypper[14482]: Die folgenden 5 Pakete werden die Architektur ändern: 
Jul 04 13:53:55 Leap-15-3 zypper[14482]: Die folgenden 35 Pakete werden den Anbieter ändern: 
Jul 04 13:53:55 Leap-15-3 zypper[14482]: Die folgenden 142 NEUEN Pakete werden installiert: 
Jul 04 13:53:55 Leap-15-3 zypper[14482]: Die folgenden 42 Pakete werden GELÖSCHT: 
Jul 04 13:53:55 Leap-15-3 zypper[14482]: 1380 Pakete werden aktualisiert, 60 werden zurückgestuft, 142 neue, 42 zu entfernen, 35  Anbieterwechsel, 5 Architekturwechsel. 
Leap-15-4:~ #

Installation start: Jul 04 14:07:47, finished: 14:15:55, systemd was reloaded 159 times.

Leap-15-4:~ # zypper lr -uE 
#  | Alias                 | Enabled | GPG Check | Priority | URI 
---+-----------------------+---------+-----------+----------+------------------------------------------------------------------------- 
 4 | packman               | Yes     | (r ) Yes  |   90     | https://ftp.fau.de/packman/suse/openSUSE_Leap_15.4/ 
 6 | repo-backports-update | Yes     | (r ) Yes  |   99     | https://mirrorcache-eu.opensuse.org/update/leap/15.4/backports/ 
11 | repo-non-oss          | Yes     | (r ) Yes  |   99     | https://mirrorcache-eu.opensuse.org/distribution/leap/15.4/repo/non-oss/ 
12 | repo-oss              | Yes     | (r ) Yes  |   99     | https://mirrorcache-eu.opensuse.org/distribution/leap/15.4/repo/oss/ 
14 | repo-sle-update       | Yes     | (r ) Yes  |   99     | https://mirrorcache-eu.opensuse.org/update/leap/15.4/sle/ 
16 | repo-update           | Yes     | (r ) Yes  |   99     | https://mirrorcache-eu.opensuse.org/update/leap/15.4/oss 
17 | repo-update-non-oss   | Yes     | (r ) Yes  |   99     | https://mirrorcache-eu.opensuse.org/update/leap/15.4/non-oss/ 
Leap-15-4:~ # 

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@karlmistelberger, et al:

OK, 15.4 . . . been running the "alpha" or "beta" of that on my '09 MBPro for some time. NIce system. Not super high maintenance . . . if you know what I mean.

So, I tried again on running the "onemkl" cpu stress test on the Quad core Xeon Bloomfield processor . . . unlike @malcolmlewis' run in 13 minutes . . . this was where I stopped it at roughly 1.5 hours of run-time . . . . Too much juice to waste running the "small block" V-8 engine of processors. It's still showing "pass" for each of the line items . . . just doesn't seem to be make quick work of it? I think I posted the previous run data that went up to "18K"?? This is from there to when I cut it . . . other stuff to do.

Perhaps the "PI" quiz challenge for faster test results???

20000  20016  4      205.938    25.9017  3.418252e-10 2.927800e-02   pass
20000  20016  4      208.470    25.5871  3.418252e-10 2.927800e-02   pass
20000  20016  4      204.738    26.0534  3.418252e-10 2.927800e-02   pass
22000  22008  4      280.752    25.2879  4.641425e-10 3.296392e-02   pass
22000  22008  4      288.182    24.6359  4.641425e-10 3.296392e-02   pass
22000  22008  4      285.260    24.8883  4.641425e-10 3.296392e-02   pass
25000  25000  4      407.443    25.5690  5.801093e-10 3.201574e-02   pass
25000  25000  4      417.947    24.9264  5.801093e-10 3.201574e-02   pass
25000  25000  4      427.604    24.3635  5.801093e-10 3.201574e-02   pass
26000  26000  4      471.705    24.8432  6.332790e-10 3.236595e-02   pass
26000  26000  4      453.952    25.8148  6.332790e-10 3.236595e-02   pass
26000  26000  4      406.987    28.7938  6.332790e-10 3.236595e-02   pass
27000  27000  4      535.475    24.5080  6.298261e-10 2.985655e-02   pass
27000  27000  4      531.519    24.6905  6.298261e-10 2.985655e-02   pass
^Z
[1]+  Stopped                 ./runme_xeon64

[karlmistelberger]

@karlmistelberger, et al:

OK, 15.4 . . . been running the "alpha" or "beta" of that on my '09 MBPro for some time. NIce system. Not super high maintenance . . . if you know what I mean.

So, I tried again on running the "onemkl" cpu stress test on the Quad core Xeon Bloomfield processor . . . unlike @malcolmlewis' run in 13 minutes . . . this was where I stopped it at roughly 1.5 hours of run-time . . . . Too much juice to waste running the "small block" V-8 engine of processors. It's still showing "pass" for each of the line items . . . just doesn't seem to be make quick work of it? I think I posted the previous run data that went up to "18K"?? This is from there to when I cut it . . . other stuff to do.

Perhaps the "PI" quiz challenge for faster test results???

20000  20016  4      205.938    25.9017  3.418252e-10 2.927800e-02   pass
20000  20016  4      208.470    25.5871  3.418252e-10 2.927800e-02   pass
20000  20016  4      204.738    26.0534  3.418252e-10 2.927800e-02   pass
22000  22008  4      280.752    25.2879  4.641425e-10 3.296392e-02   pass
22000  22008  4      288.182    24.6359  4.641425e-10 3.296392e-02   pass
22000  22008  4      285.260    24.8883  4.641425e-10 3.296392e-02   pass
25000  25000  4      407.443    25.5690  5.801093e-10 3.201574e-02   pass
25000  25000  4      417.947    24.9264  5.801093e-10 3.201574e-02   pass
25000  25000  4      427.604    24.3635  5.801093e-10 3.201574e-02   pass
26000  26000  4      471.705    24.8432  6.332790e-10 3.236595e-02   pass
26000  26000  4      453.952    25.8148  6.332790e-10 3.236595e-02   pass
26000  26000  4      406.987    28.7938  6.332790e-10 3.236595e-02   pass
27000  27000  4      535.475    24.5080  6.298261e-10 2.985655e-02   pass
27000  27000  4      531.519    24.6905  6.298261e-10 2.985655e-02   pass
^Z
[1]+  Stopped                 ./runme_xeon64

CPU, CPU Mark, Linpack GFlops
Intel Xeon W3565, 3346, 28
Intel Core i7-6700K, 8976, 222
Intel Xeon E5-2690 v4, 20077, 403

https://www.cpubenchmark.net/compare...70vs2565vs2780

I am quite happy with the 6700K. It currently uses a SATA Crucial CT250MX500SSD1, which results in a higher CPU load compared to the NVME Samsung 950 PRO and thus substantially higher real time of zypper dup.

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CPU, CPU Mark, Linpack GFlops
Intel Xeon W3565, 3346, 28
Intel Core i7-6700K, 8976, 222
Intel Xeon E5-2690 v4, 20077, 403

https://www.cpubenchmark.net/compare...70vs2565vs2780

I am quite happy with the 6700K. It currently uses a SATA Crucial CT250MX500SSD1, which results in a higher CPU load compared to the NVME Samsung 950 PRO and thus substantially higher real time of zypper dup.

@karlmistelberger:

Thanks for that comparo. Yes, the 6700K seems to hit the "sweet spot" on the cost/benefit ratio and cost to run, etc. I think for my needs the Quad core unit is fine. It seems like in my case with the "ripping through packages" or "shuffling through them" . . . the weak point is that TW is installed into an HDD, rather than what might be a Crucial SSD that I could move it into . . . on a "rainy" day.

The other "issue" is that I think there might be a problem getting the 6700 into the '12 Mac Pro. I believe there are only a few cpu's that are "supported" by that machine, it was a short list, as I recall from memory of the OWC site's options. So, I'm not quite ready to build a DIYer machine just to be able to run TW upgrades . . . but, perhaps taking the time to flip the TW "/" over to SSD and . . . perhaps a slightly faster Quad-core cpu at some point. Stuff has to "break" before I try to "fix it."