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  1. #211

    Default Re: "2321" packages to upgrade . . . on reboot another "204" yet to go?? Why???

    Quote Originally Posted by malcolmlewis View Post
    Hi
    Correct, just different ways to see how the computer is running. The mprime (prime95) tool is very useful if overclocking cpu and/or ram to test it's producing no errors, make small changes to speed, voltage etc and test.
    @malcolmlewis:

    Ah . . . OK . . . . Well, I'm definitely not "overclocking" this cpu. I did mess with that in my '00 PowerMac to get it to something like "1.2GHz" a few years back, trying to keep it "viable" in today's internet . . . but then I guess the power supply took a dive . . . . So I can get mind-boggling PPC speeds for 20 minutes or so . . . then fade to black . . . .

    I should be rotating back to TW tomorrow, so I'll try to run the complete "onemkl" testing and see if it "passes" the entire test . . . got it up to "18K" as posted before and it "passed" up to that level before I . . . what, ctrl + z'd out of it . . . . Had other stuff to do. Life stuff.

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    Default Re: "2321" packages to upgrade . . . on reboot another "204" yet to go?? Why???

    Quote Originally Posted by non_space View Post
    @malcolmlewis:

    Ah . . . OK . . . . Well, I'm definitely not "overclocking" this cpu. I did mess with that in my '00 PowerMac to get it to something like "1.2GHz" a few years back, trying to keep it "viable" in today's internet . . . but then I guess the power supply took a dive . . . . So I can get mind-boggling PPC speeds for 20 minutes or so . . . then fade to black . . . .

    I should be rotating back to TW tomorrow, so I'll try to run the complete "onemkl" testing and see if it "passes" the entire test . . . got it up to "18K" as posted before and it "passed" up to that level before I . . . what, ctrl + z'd out of it . . . . Had other stuff to do. Life stuff.
    Hi
    Yes, that may be the limit for that cpu.....

    So if I use rust and multithreading, the bash example on this machine (only uses a single core) takes around 16 seconds, with rust and 24 cores it takes 1.12 seconds to 5000 decimal places
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    Default Re: "2321" packages to upgrade . . . on reboot another "204" yet to go?? Why???

    Quote Originally Posted by malcolmlewis View Post
    Hi
    Yes, that may be the limit for that cpu.....

    So if I use rust and multithreading, the bash example on this machine (only uses a single core) takes around 16 seconds, with rust and 24 cores it takes 1.12 seconds to 5000 decimal places
    To quote a famous line . . . "rust never sleeps" . . . it just gets "rustier" . . . ???

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    Default Yet Another zypper dist-upgrade

    Code:
    Leap-15-4:~ # systemctl cat dup-15.4.service                      
    # /etc/systemd/system/dup-15.4.service
    [Unit] 
    Description=Upgrade to Leap 15.4 
    
    [Service] 
    ExecStart=/usr/bin/zypper --releasever=15.4 dup --no-confirm --allow-vendor-change 
    Leap-15-4:~ #


    Code:
    Leap-15-4:~ # journalctl -b -1 -u dup-15.4.service -g Pakete 
    Jul 04 13:53:54 Leap-15-3 zypper[14482]: Installierte Pakete werden gelesen... 
    Jul 04 13:53:55 Leap-15-3 zypper[14482]: Die folgenden 1380 Pakete werden aktualisiert: 
    Jul 04 13:53:55 Leap-15-3 zypper[14482]: Die folgenden 60 Pakete werden durch eine ältere Version ausgetauscht: 
    Jul 04 13:53:55 Leap-15-3 zypper[14482]: Die folgenden 5 Pakete werden die Architektur ändern: 
    Jul 04 13:53:55 Leap-15-3 zypper[14482]: Die folgenden 35 Pakete werden den Anbieter ändern: 
    Jul 04 13:53:55 Leap-15-3 zypper[14482]: Die folgenden 142 NEUEN Pakete werden installiert: 
    Jul 04 13:53:55 Leap-15-3 zypper[14482]: Die folgenden 42 Pakete werden GELÖSCHT: 
    Jul 04 13:53:55 Leap-15-3 zypper[14482]: 1380 Pakete werden aktualisiert, 60 werden zurückgestuft, 142 neue, 42 zu entfernen, 35  Anbieterwechsel, 5 Architekturwechsel. 
    Leap-15-4:~ #
    Installation start: Jul 04 14:07:47, finished: 14:15:55, systemd was reloaded 159 times.
    Code:
    Leap-15-4:~ # zypper lr -uE 
    #  | Alias                 | Enabled | GPG Check | Priority | URI 
    ---+-----------------------+---------+-----------+----------+------------------------------------------------------------------------- 
     4 | packman               | Yes     | (r ) Yes  |   90     | https://ftp.fau.de/packman/suse/openSUSE_Leap_15.4/ 
     6 | repo-backports-update | Yes     | (r ) Yes  |   99     | https://mirrorcache-eu.opensuse.org/update/leap/15.4/backports/ 
    11 | repo-non-oss          | Yes     | (r ) Yes  |   99     | https://mirrorcache-eu.opensuse.org/distribution/leap/15.4/repo/non-oss/ 
    12 | repo-oss              | Yes     | (r ) Yes  |   99     | https://mirrorcache-eu.opensuse.org/distribution/leap/15.4/repo/oss/ 
    14 | repo-sle-update       | Yes     | (r ) Yes  |   99     | https://mirrorcache-eu.opensuse.org/update/leap/15.4/sle/ 
    16 | repo-update           | Yes     | (r ) Yes  |   99     | https://mirrorcache-eu.opensuse.org/update/leap/15.4/oss 
    17 | repo-update-non-oss   | Yes     | (r ) Yes  |   99     | https://mirrorcache-eu.opensuse.org/update/leap/15.4/non-oss/ 
    Leap-15-4:~ # 
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  5. #215

    Default Re: "2321" packages to upgrade . . . on reboot another "204" yet to go?? Why???

    @karlmistelberger, et al:

    OK, 15.4 . . . been running the "alpha" or "beta" of that on my '09 MBPro for some time. NIce system. Not super high maintenance . . . if you know what I mean.

    So, I tried again on running the "onemkl" cpu stress test on the Quad core Xeon Bloomfield processor . . . unlike @malcolmlewis' run in 13 minutes . . . this was where I stopped it at roughly 1.5 hours of run-time . . . . Too much juice to waste running the "small block" V-8 engine of processors. It's still showing "pass" for each of the line items . . . just doesn't seem to be make quick work of it? I think I posted the previous run data that went up to "18K"?? This is from there to when I cut it . . . other stuff to do.

    Perhaps the "PI" quiz challenge for faster test results???

    Code:
    20000  20016  4      205.938    25.9017  3.418252e-10 2.927800e-02   pass
    20000  20016  4      208.470    25.5871  3.418252e-10 2.927800e-02   pass
    20000  20016  4      204.738    26.0534  3.418252e-10 2.927800e-02   pass
    22000  22008  4      280.752    25.2879  4.641425e-10 3.296392e-02   pass
    22000  22008  4      288.182    24.6359  4.641425e-10 3.296392e-02   pass
    22000  22008  4      285.260    24.8883  4.641425e-10 3.296392e-02   pass
    25000  25000  4      407.443    25.5690  5.801093e-10 3.201574e-02   pass
    25000  25000  4      417.947    24.9264  5.801093e-10 3.201574e-02   pass
    25000  25000  4      427.604    24.3635  5.801093e-10 3.201574e-02   pass
    26000  26000  4      471.705    24.8432  6.332790e-10 3.236595e-02   pass
    26000  26000  4      453.952    25.8148  6.332790e-10 3.236595e-02   pass
    26000  26000  4      406.987    28.7938  6.332790e-10 3.236595e-02   pass
    27000  27000  4      535.475    24.5080  6.298261e-10 2.985655e-02   pass
    27000  27000  4      531.519    24.6905  6.298261e-10 2.985655e-02   pass
    ^Z
    [1]+  Stopped                 ./runme_xeon64

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    Default Re: "2321" packages to upgrade . . . on reboot another "204" yet to go?? Why???

    Quote Originally Posted by non_space View Post
    @karlmistelberger, et al:

    OK, 15.4 . . . been running the "alpha" or "beta" of that on my '09 MBPro for some time. NIce system. Not super high maintenance . . . if you know what I mean.

    So, I tried again on running the "onemkl" cpu stress test on the Quad core Xeon Bloomfield processor . . . unlike @malcolmlewis' run in 13 minutes . . . this was where I stopped it at roughly 1.5 hours of run-time . . . . Too much juice to waste running the "small block" V-8 engine of processors. It's still showing "pass" for each of the line items . . . just doesn't seem to be make quick work of it? I think I posted the previous run data that went up to "18K"?? This is from there to when I cut it . . . other stuff to do.

    Perhaps the "PI" quiz challenge for faster test results???

    Code:
    20000  20016  4      205.938    25.9017  3.418252e-10 2.927800e-02   pass
    20000  20016  4      208.470    25.5871  3.418252e-10 2.927800e-02   pass
    20000  20016  4      204.738    26.0534  3.418252e-10 2.927800e-02   pass
    22000  22008  4      280.752    25.2879  4.641425e-10 3.296392e-02   pass
    22000  22008  4      288.182    24.6359  4.641425e-10 3.296392e-02   pass
    22000  22008  4      285.260    24.8883  4.641425e-10 3.296392e-02   pass
    25000  25000  4      407.443    25.5690  5.801093e-10 3.201574e-02   pass
    25000  25000  4      417.947    24.9264  5.801093e-10 3.201574e-02   pass
    25000  25000  4      427.604    24.3635  5.801093e-10 3.201574e-02   pass
    26000  26000  4      471.705    24.8432  6.332790e-10 3.236595e-02   pass
    26000  26000  4      453.952    25.8148  6.332790e-10 3.236595e-02   pass
    26000  26000  4      406.987    28.7938  6.332790e-10 3.236595e-02   pass
    27000  27000  4      535.475    24.5080  6.298261e-10 2.985655e-02   pass
    27000  27000  4      531.519    24.6905  6.298261e-10 2.985655e-02   pass
    ^Z
    [1]+  Stopped                 ./runme_xeon64
    CPU, CPU Mark, Linpack GFlops
    Intel Xeon W3565, 3346, 28
    Intel Core i7-6700K, 8976, 222
    Intel Xeon E5-2690 v4, 20077, 403

    https://www.cpubenchmark.net/compare...70vs2565vs2780

    I am quite happy with the 6700K. It currently uses a SATA Crucial CT250MX500SSD1, which results in a higher CPU load compared to the NVME Samsung 950 PRO and thus substantially higher real time of zypper dup.
    i7-6700K (2016), i5-8250U (2018), AMD Ryzen 5 3400G (2020), 5600X (2022) openSUSE Tumbleweed, KDE Plasma

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    Default Re: "2321" packages to upgrade . . . on reboot another "204" yet to go?? Why???

    Quote Originally Posted by karlmistelberger View Post
    CPU, CPU Mark, Linpack GFlops
    Intel Xeon W3565, 3346, 28
    Intel Core i7-6700K, 8976, 222
    Intel Xeon E5-2690 v4, 20077, 403

    https://www.cpubenchmark.net/compare...70vs2565vs2780

    I am quite happy with the 6700K. It currently uses a SATA Crucial CT250MX500SSD1, which results in a higher CPU load compared to the NVME Samsung 950 PRO and thus substantially higher real time of zypper dup.
    @karlmistelberger:

    Thanks for that comparo. Yes, the 6700K seems to hit the "sweet spot" on the cost/benefit ratio and cost to run, etc. I think for my needs the Quad core unit is fine. It seems like in my case with the "ripping through packages" or "shuffling through them" . . . the weak point is that TW is installed into an HDD, rather than what might be a Crucial SSD that I could move it into . . . on a "rainy" day.

    The other "issue" is that I think there might be a problem getting the 6700 into the '12 Mac Pro. I believe there are only a few cpu's that are "supported" by that machine, it was a short list, as I recall from memory of the OWC site's options. So, I'm not quite ready to build a DIYer machine just to be able to run TW upgrades . . . but, perhaps taking the time to flip the TW "/" over to SSD and . . . perhaps a slightly faster Quad-core cpu at some point. Stuff has to "break" before I try to "fix it."

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