**NOTE** January 2022 - Changes to Gstreamer and Pipewire packages from PackmanPlease read the following thread about the current changes
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16 problems with packages relating to "gstreamer"???
Folks:
Tried to run a zypper dup -l a few minutes ago and it showed something like "286 packages to upgrade" but before it would run the upgrade it found "16 problems" seemingly with dependencies and "gstreamer" where the two "solutions" offered were either to drop back to the previous "5.4x" version of it, or "keep the obsolete" but numerically newer "5.6x" version . . . ???
I tried keeping the obsolete option but it seemed like it was going to ask me for all 16 of the "problems" . . . I canceled out of it.
Is there a "correct" answer, or, best to wait a day or two until the zypper gets these dependency questions answered, before asking me what I want to do???
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Re: 16 problems with packages relating to "gstreamer"???
I think it is an issue with packman, not sure if they have dropped those packages entirely or just 'forgotten'.
I've let them switch to the opensuse version and have not had an issue so far.
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Re: 16 problems with packages relating to "gstreamer"???
 Originally Posted by swannema
I think it is an issue with packman, not sure if they have dropped those packages entirely or just 'forgotten'.
I've let them switch to the opensuse version and have not had an issue so far.
@swannema:
OK, thanks for the reply on it . . . but what does that mean, "I've let them switch to the opensuse version"??? Would that be the seemingly "older" package, dropping back so to speak, rather than "keep obsolete, but newer package" choice??
So, that would be "solution #1"????
I've restarted out of TW, so I can't just check it to see if the "obsolete" package is showing a "packman repo" address or which . . . ???
[edit: Never mind on the question, back in TW and I see that it is #1 that you are referring to . . . switching to "opensuse" . . . . I'll give it a fly.]
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Re: 16 problems with packages relating to "gstreamer"???
You got it right. If packman gets it act together you can always switch back, it will be done with a zypper dup as long as the packman repo has a higher priority than the opensuse repo.
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Re: 16 problems with packages relating to "gstreamer"???
 Originally Posted by swannema
You got it right. If packman gets it act together you can always switch back, it will be done with a zypper dup as long as the packman repo has a higher priority than the opensuse repo.
@swannema:
Cool. Yep, the zypper dup -l seemed to run cleanly after I answered all 16 of the questions . . . . So I guess we'll see how long it goes before the next set of zypper questions comes down the pike . . . .
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Re: 16 problems with packages relating to "gstreamer"???
I ran into this today.
There were 16 packages that were switched from "packman" to "opensuse" repos. I did not hit any problems, but that's because my configuration allows vendor-change for "zypper dup".
I will make a wild guess on what might be happening.
Some of the packages have restrictions due to licenses or patents. And the packman packages provide unrestricted versions of those.
My wild guess: some of those restriction may have expired, so that the standard Tumbleweed repos now have unrestricted versions. And thus there is no need for packman to provide those.
Again, this is only a wild guess.
openSUSE Leap 15.4 Beta; KDE Plasma 5.24.4;
testing Tumbleweed.
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Re: 16 problems with packages relating to "gstreamer"???
@nrickert:
Wild guesses are often more amusing than the non-wild type of guess . . . .
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Re: 16 problems with packages relating to "gstreamer"???
 Originally Posted by non_space
@nrickert:
Wild guesses are often more amusing than the non-wild type of guess . . . . 
The guess is not too wild. This happened earlier with the expiring of the restrictions on (a guess) mp3 years ago.
Henk van Velden
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Re: 16 problems with packages relating to "gstreamer"???
 Originally Posted by hcvv
The guess is not too wild. This happened earlier with the expiring of the restrictions on (a guess) mp3 years ago.
@hcvv:
Ah, yeah, a "guess" based upon previous historical evidence is less than "wild" . . . might be "slightly wild" . . . ????
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Re: 16 problems with packages relating to "gstreamer"???
If the switch was owing to restrictions no longer applying, why was that information not include in the snapshot announcement?
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