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    Question NVIDIA Quadro K2200 - which graphics driver?

    Hi there!

    An older Xeon Dell Precision Desktop (8x E5420 @2.5GHz, HT active iirc) I installed with TW some weeks ago. Graphis is now K2200 (has been NVS295 in the beginning). I tried without and with NOUVEAU (xf86, mesa-dri) no difference.

    Code:
    sudo lspci
    [sudo] password for root: 
    00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation 5400 Chipset Memory Controller Hub (rev 20)
    00:01.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 5400 Chipset PCI Express Port 1 (rev 20)
    00:05.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 5400 Chipset PCI Express Port 5 (rev 20)
    00:09.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 5400 Chipset PCI Express Port 9 (rev 20)
    00:10.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation 5400 Chipset FSB Registers (rev 20)
    00:10.1 Host bridge: Intel Corporation 5400 Chipset FSB Registers (rev 20)
    00:10.2 Host bridge: Intel Corporation 5400 Chipset FSB Registers (rev 20)
    00:10.3 Host bridge: Intel Corporation 5400 Chipset FSB Registers (rev 20)
    00:10.4 Host bridge: Intel Corporation 5400 Chipset FSB Registers (rev 20)
    00:11.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation 5400 Chipset CE/SF Registers (rev 20)
    00:15.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation 5400 Chipset FBD Registers (rev 20)
    00:15.1 Host bridge: Intel Corporation 5400 Chipset FBD Registers (rev 20)
    00:16.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation 5400 Chipset FBD Registers (rev 20)
    00:16.1 Host bridge: Intel Corporation 5400 Chipset FBD Registers (rev 20)
    00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 631xESB/632xESB High Definition Audio Controller (rev 09)
    00:1c.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 631xESB/632xESB/3100 Chipset PCI Express Root Port 1 (rev 09)
    00:1d.0 USB controller: Intel Corporation 631xESB/632xESB/3100 Chipset UHCI USB Controller #1 (rev 09)
    00:1d.1 USB controller: Intel Corporation 631xESB/632xESB/3100 Chipset UHCI USB Controller #2 (rev 09)
    00:1d.2 USB controller: Intel Corporation 631xESB/632xESB/3100 Chipset UHCI USB Controller #3 (rev 09)
    00:1d.3 USB controller: Intel Corporation 631xESB/632xESB/3100 Chipset UHCI USB Controller #4 (rev 09)
    00:1d.7 USB controller: Intel Corporation 631xESB/632xESB/3100 Chipset EHCI USB2 Controller (rev 09)
    00:1e.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801 PCI Bridge (rev d9)
    00:1f.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corporation 631xESB/632xESB/3100 Chipset LPC Interface Controller (rev 09)
    00:1f.1 IDE interface: Intel Corporation 631xESB/632xESB IDE Controller (rev 09)
    00:1f.2 SATA controller: Intel Corporation 631xESB/632xESB SATA AHCI Controller (rev 09)
    00:1f.3 SMBus: Intel Corporation 631xESB/632xESB/3100 Chipset SMBus Controller (rev 09)
    01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation GM107GL [Quadro K2200] (rev a2)
    01:00.1 Audio device: NVIDIA Corporation GM107 High Definition Audio Controller [GeForce 940MX] (rev a1)
    03:00.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 6311ESB/6321ESB PCI Express Upstream Port (rev 01)
    03:00.3 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 6311ESB/6321ESB PCI Express to PCI-X Bridge (rev 01)
    04:00.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 6311ESB/6321ESB PCI Express Downstream Port E1 (rev 01)
    04:01.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 6311ESB/6321ESB PCI Express Downstream Port E2 (rev 01)
    06:00.0 Multimedia video controller: Conexant Systems, Inc. CX23887/8 PCIe Broadcast Audio and Video Decoder with 3D Comb (rev 04)
    08:00.0 Ethernet controller: Broadcom Inc. and subsidiaries NetXtreme BCM5754 Gigabit Ethernet PCI Express (rev 02)
    09:0a.0 FireWire (IEEE 1394): Texas Instruments TSB43AB22A IEEE-1394a-2000 Controller (PHY/Link) [iOHCI-Lynx]
    Problem: If I watch a little TV via kaffeine (DVB-S2, version 2.0.40-86.5-x86_64 from KDE_unstable_EXTRA) the frames stick (no constant picture stream) quite annoying.

    System Information gives:

    Code:
    Graphics Processor: llvmpipe
    And kaffeine complains:

    Code:
    kaffeine 
    19-08-21 09:29:47.040 [Warning ] QCommandLineParser: already having an option named "h" 
    19-08-21 09:29:47.040 [Warning ] QCommandLineParser: already having an option named "help-all" 
    19-08-21 09:29:47.040 [Warning ] QCommandLineParser: already having an option named "v" 
    19-08-21 09:29:48.333 [Info    ] kaffeine.dvb:Using built-in dvb device manager 
    19-08-21 09:29:54.485 [Info    ] kaffeine.dev:Found dvb device P14f188800070c108: NXP TDA10071 
    19-08-21 09:29:58.038 [Info    ] kaffeine.dev:Found dvb device P14f188800070c108: Silicon Labs Si2165 DVB-T DVB-C 
    [00007ff7ec0059b0] gl gl: Initialized libplacebo v3.120.3 (API v120)
    libva info: VA-API version 1.12.0 
    libva info: Trying to open /usr/lib64/dri/nouveau_drv_video.so 
    libva info: Found init function __vaDriverInit_1_12 
    libva info: va_openDriver() returns 0 
    [00007ff7ec0059b0] glconv_vaapi_x11 gl error: vaDeriveImage: operation failed
    [00007ff7f804f8e0] main video output error: video output creation failed
    [00007ff80402a0c0] main decoder error: failed to create video output
    [00007ff7ec023e40] gl gl: Initialized libplacebo v3.120.3 (API v120)
    [00007ff80402a0c0] avcodec decoder: Using G3DVL VDPAU Driver Shared Library version 1.0 for hardware decoding
    [h264 @ 0x7ff7fc002380] Failed setup for format vdpau: hwaccel initialisation returned error.
    [00007ff80402a0c0] avcodec decoder error: existing hardware acceleration cannot be reused
    [00007ff7ec023e40] gl gl: Initialized libplacebo v3.120.3 (API v120)
    libva info: VA-API version 1.12.0 
    libva info: Trying to open /usr/lib64/dri/nouveau_drv_video.so 
    libva info: Found init function __vaDriverInit_1_12 
    libva info: va_openDriver() returns 0 
    [00007ff7ec023e40] glconv_vaapi_x11 gl error: vaDeriveImage: operation failed
    [00007ff7ec023e40] gl gl: Initialized libplacebo v3.120.3 (API v120)
    libva info: VA-API version 1.12.0 
    libva info: Trying to open /usr/lib64/dri/nouveau_drv_video.so 
    libva info: Found init function __vaDriverInit_1_12 
    libva info: va_openDriver() returns 0 
    [00007ff7ec023e40] glconv_vaapi_x11 gl error: vaDeriveImage: operation failed
    [00007ff7f81273b0] main video output error: video output creation failed
    [00007ff80402a0c0] main decoder error: failed to create video output
    [00007ff7ec023e40] gl gl: Initialized libplacebo v3.120.3 (API v120)
    [00007ff80402a0c0] main decoder error: buffer deadlock prevented
    [h264 @ 0x7ff7fc002380] error while decoding MB 29 19, bytestream -25
    [h264 @ 0x7ff7fc0d2700] mmco: unref short failure  
    
    Any ideas how to have better graphics without the NVIDIA driver? I don'T want the pain of re-installing after every kernel update...
    Kind regards

    raspu

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    Default Re: NVIDIA Quadro K2200 - which graphics driver?

    https://nouveau.freedesktop.org/VideoAcceleration.html
    https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Har...o_acceleration

    Install needed packages: search for "vdpau" (libvdpau_nouveau, etc.).
    Install firmware from Nvidia.

    Or VM + Leap + Nvidia drivers?

    Quadro K2200 = GM107 - Maxwell graphics has bad support with nouveau. Use Kepler with nouveau.

    It is rather stupid to use Nvidia Quadro with nouveau.
    Change it to Nvidia Kepler or AMD or Intel graphics.

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    Default Re: NVIDIA Quadro K2200 - which graphics driver?

    Quote Originally Posted by Svyatko View Post
    https://nouveau.freedesktop.org/VideoAcceleration.html
    https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Har...o_acceleration

    Install needed packages: search for "vdpau" (libvdpau_nouveau, etc.).
    Install firmware from Nvidia.

    Or VM + Leap + Nvidia drivers?

    Quadro K2200 = GM107 - Maxwell graphics has bad support with nouveau. Use Kepler with nouveau.

    It is rather stupid to use Nvidia Quadro with nouveau.
    Change it to Nvidia Kepler or AMD or Intel graphics.
    Manythanks for taking time to reply!

    vdpau is installed, I found a vdpau driver in software management and installed, didn't change it.

    Extracted firmware from nouveau page, the console output when starting kaffeine is absolute identical to the situation befor installing...

    You propose buying new hardware?
    Kind regards

    raspu

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    Default Re: NVIDIA Quadro K2200 - which graphics driver?

    changed back to NVS 295 and booted to LEap 15.3, no errors in console with kaffeine starting and nice audio and video quality...
    Kind regards

    raspu

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    Default Re: NVIDIA Quadro K2200 - which graphics driver?

    ...rebooted back to TW, no adequate adio/video quality with same hardware. Strange...
    Kind regards

    raspu

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    Default Re: NVIDIA Quadro K2200 - which graphics driver?

    Yet another thread writing as though there is only one Nouveau meaning. Learn what Nouveau means here. Now that you know, which D?X driver are you using on Leap? Which D?X on TW? Does behavior change by switching to another?
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    Default Re: NVIDIA Quadro K2200 - which graphics driver?

    Quote Originally Posted by mrmazda View Post
    Yet another thread writing as though there is only one Nouveau meaning. Learn what Nouveau means here. Now that you know, which D?X driver are you using on Leap? Which D?X on TW? Does behavior change by switching to another?
    Link gives me:

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    I personally don't use any drivers and don't need any. Afaik TW and Leap make decisions to use drivers. But that is nothing a user should care for. Software (especially OS) should make sensible decisions to utilize hardware capabilities available. I don't sit in a car and start with adjusting the motor tuning before starting a ride. Sorry, that should simply work ootb...
    Kind regards

    raspu

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    Default Re: NVIDIA Quadro K2200 - which graphics driver?

    Quote Originally Posted by suse_rasputin View Post
    Link gives me:...
    Registering to that forum would enable access. There's an earlier version that's less refined here on this forum, where editing as facts and hardware change, or clarification is needed, is not allowed.

    I personally don't use any drivers and don't need any.
    The fact is your computer and openSUSE must use drivers. Without drivers, you can't even begin an installation, and live media won't begin to boot.

    Afaik TW and Leap make decisions to use drivers.
    The decisions are nearly always which driver to use, not whether to use a driver. Sometimes there is a single choice. With X drivers for AMD, Intel and NVidia GPUs, there are usually two choices of competent FOSS drivers, and two choices of crude fallback/troubleshooting drivers that most people would not tolerate for everyday use.

    But that is nothing a user should care for. Software (especially OS) should make sensible decisions to utilize hardware capabilities available. I don't sit in a car and start with adjusting the motor tuning before starting a ride. Sorry, that should simply work ootb...
    While working OOTB is a reasonable expectation, sometimes it just can't happen. Developers simple cannot test every possible hardware combination that exists in the real world. Some problems only get fixed because a user reported a problem that QA and developers never experienced. Sometimes the optimal driver can only be determined by trying each that is available, not programmatically.
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    Default Re: NVIDIA Quadro K2200 - which graphics driver?

    Hmm, one moment. Leap makes a reasonable choice that works, TW doesn't. Easy as that...

    I highly appreciate your competent answers, but am I really supposed to read through a highly technical 4 page thread just to watch a little DVB-S2 on TW? This simply can't be true...
    Kind regards

    raspu

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    Default Re: NVIDIA Quadro K2200 - which graphics driver?

    Quote Originally Posted by suse_rasputin View Post
    I highly appreciate your competent answers, but am I really supposed to read through a highly technical 4 page thread
    No, you're not. However, at the openSUSE link, reading the OP is enough for the gist, the definitions involved. It was intended to be a sole post, not a thread, and certainly not 34 posts (1.7 pages for me; 20 posts per page).

    There is no "thread" at the original link provided. This simplification and clarification is what editing allows, permitted there, prohibited here.
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