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    Default Installing openSUSE Tumbleweed i686 on 32bit Compaq NC-6400 laptop:

    A couple weeks ago I downloaded and verified an .iso from the following link: -> http://download.opensuse.org/tumbleweed/iso/

    It was a 32 bit snapshot by the name of: -> openSUSE-Tumbleweed-KDE-Live-i686-Snapshot20210307-Media.iso

    I am uncertain between the difference in the i686 openSUSE TW .iso's as per current or snapshot-media suffixes.

    I successfully created and verified a bootable USB with balenaEtcher.

    I was able to use this snapshot effectively to install openSUSE TW on an Atom 311mini 1600 mhz cpu - small laptop. It was slow to update and very slow now but in a pinch functional.

    I am now attempting to use the same usb drive to install openSUSE TW onto a 32 bit Compaq nc-6400 1833 mhz Centrino Duo with 4 gigabytes of memory installed and verified. Intel integrated graphics onboard as well as Intel onboard wireless functionality. 160 GB internal sata harddisk.

    The usb appears to load fine into the boot option menu where I can choose to install openSUSE Tumbleweed KDE Live. I attempt this option (The first option-default) and loading proceeds without noticeable incident except for a square mouse cursor with some (Jumbly characters inside). KDE desktop seemingly appears and background scrolls very slowly down a bit at an angle with the openSUSE welcome lizard on the sailing mast window appearing. Trying to use the mouse cursor (block) is not functional when trying to click on "install". For that matter attempting to click on menu or closing the welcome window does not seem to work whatsoever. Everything from moving the mouse cursor to attempting to double click on the menu button or double clicking on any desktop icon seems to be exceptionally slow.

    Are there a couple of options I could try with the boot menu that could yield some further success with this installation possibly?

    Thank You for your thoughts and suggestions.

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    Default Re: Installing openSUSE Tumbleweed i686 on 32bit Compaq NC-6400 laptop:

    Your atom machine probably has a 64-bit processor. Your other machine is only 32-bit. There are some extended instructions needed for 686. I don't know whether your system actually supports that.
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    Default Re: Installing openSUSE Tumbleweed i686 on 32bit Compaq NC-6400 laptop:

    I powered up the HP-mini and verified that it is 32 bit with inxi as follows:
    HTML Code:
    inxi -Fxz
    HTML Code:
    System:
    
       Kernel: 5.11.11-1-pae i686 bits: 32 compiler: gcc v: 10.2.1 
       Desktop: KDE Plasma 5.21.3 Distro: openSUSE Tumbleweed 20210406 
     Machine:
       Type: Laptop System: Hewlett-Packard product: HP Mini 311-1000 
       v: 0390100000201B01100320000 serial: <filter> 
       Mobo: Hewlett-Packard model: 3651 v: 49.19 serial: <filter> BIOS: Hewlett-Packard 
       v: F.16 date: 11/26/2010 
     Battery:
       ID-1: BAT0 charge: 29.7 Wh (85.8%) condition: 34.6/55.1 Wh (62.7%) volts: 12.6 
       min: 10.8 model: Hewlett-Packard Primary status: Charging 
     CPU:
       Info: Single Core model: Intel Atom N270 bits: 32 type: MT arch: Bonnell rev: 2 
       cache: L2: 512 KiB 
       flags: nx pae sse sse2 sse3 ssse3 bogomips: 6399 
       Speed: 1579 MHz min/max: 800/1600 MHz Core speeds (MHz): 1: 1579 2: 1577 
     Graphics:
       Device-1: NVIDIA C79 [GeForce 9400M / ION] vendor: Hewlett-Packard 
       driver: nouveau v: kernel bus-ID: 02:00.0 
       Device-2: Quanta HP Webcam-50 type: USB driver: uvcvideo bus-ID: 2-2:2 
       Display: x11 server: X.org 1.20.10 driver: loaded: nouveau 
       unloaded: fbdev,modesetting,vesa resolution: <missing: xdpyinfo> 
       OpenGL: renderer: llvmpipe (LLVM 11.0.1 128 bits) v: 4.5 Mesa 20.3.5 
       direct render: Yes 
     Audio:
       Device-1: NVIDIA MCP79 High Definition Audio vendor: Hewlett-Packard 
       driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel bus-ID: 00:08.0 
       Sound Server-1: ALSA v: k5.11.11-1-pae running: yes 
       Sound Server-2: PulseAudio v: 14.2-rebootstrapped running: yes 
       Sound Server-3: PipeWire v: 0.3.24 running: no 
     Network:
       Device-1: NVIDIA MCP79 Ethernet vendor: Hewlett-Packard driver: forcedeth 
       v: kernel port: 30e0 bus-ID: 00:0a.0 
       IF: enp0s10 state: down mac: <filter> 
       Device-2: Broadcom BCM43224 802.11a/b/g/n 
       vendor: Hewlett-Packard WMIB-275N Half-size Mini PCIe Card 
       driver: bcma-pci-bridge v: N/A port: 2000 bus-ID: 03:00.0 
       IF-ID-1: wlp3s0b1 state: up mac: <filter> 
     Drives:
       Local Storage: total: 57.84 GiB used: 11.81 GiB (20.4%) 
       ID-1: /dev/sda vendor: Seagate model: ST96812AS size: 55.9 GiB 
       ID-2: /dev/sdb type: USB model: USB 2.0 Flash Disk size: 1.94 GiB 
     Partition:
       ID-1: / size: 26.3 GiB used: 11.05 GiB (42.0%) fs: btrfs dev: /dev/dm-2 
       mapped: system-root 
       ID-2: /home size: 27.58 GiB used: 574.7 MiB (2.0%) fs: xfs dev: /dev/dm-3 
       mapped: system-home 
       ID-3: /opt size: 26.3 GiB used: 11.05 GiB (42.0%) fs: btrfs dev: /dev/dm-2 
       mapped: system-root 
       ID-4: /var size: 26.3 GiB used: 11.05 GiB (42.0%) fs: btrfs dev: /dev/dm-2 
       mapped: system-root 
     Swap:
       ID-1: swap-1 type: partition size: 2 GiB used: 163.8 MiB (8.0%) dev: /dev/dm-1 
       mapped: system-swap 
     Sensors:
       System Temperatures: cpu: 61.0 C mobo: N/A gpu: nouveau temp: 59.0 C 
       Fan Speeds (RPM): N/A 
     Info:
       Processes: 198 Uptime: N/A Memory: 1.7 GiB used: 912.3 MiB (52.3%) Init: systemd 
       runlevel: 5 Compilers: gcc: N/A Packages: 2201 Shell: Bash v: 5.1.4 inxi: 3.3.03 
     
    
     
    
     
    
    
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    Would you happen to have a link for those extended instructions for 686 I may look into?
    Last edited by panorain; 17-Apr-2021 at 14:41. Reason: Wording

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    Default Re: Installing openSUSE Tumbleweed i686 on 32bit Compaq NC-6400 laptop:

    If you include the nomodeset workaround as a kernel command line option to start the installer, I would expect the cursor problem to be gone. There's a bug about corrupt cursors that might be hitting your Atom HP laptop. If the nomodeset workaround works for installation, you will almost certainly not want to continue with it on the installed system. I don't remember whether or not you can use the installer boot menu selection or function key to add nomodeset for an MBR installation, but if UEFI, it must be added via the E key to append it to the line beginning with linu (which usually line breaks).
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    Quote Originally Posted by mrmazda View Post
    If you include the nomodeset workaround as a kernel command line option to start the installer, I would expect the cursor problem to be gone. There's a bug about corrupt cursors that might be hitting your Atom HP laptop. If the nomodeset workaround works for installation, you will almost certainly not want to continue with it on the installed system. I don't remember whether or not you can use the installer boot menu selection or function key to add nomodeset for an MBR installation, but if UEFI, it must be added via the E key to append it to the line beginning with linu (which usually line breaks).
    That bug is about nouveau driver.
    You can set kernel parameter with UEFI in the same manner as with MBR.

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    Default Re: Installing openSUSE Tumbleweed i686 on 32bit Compaq NC-6400 laptop:

    Quote Originally Posted by nrickert View Post
    Your atom machine probably has a 64-bit processor. Your other machine is only 32-bit. There are some extended instructions needed for 686. I don't know whether your system actually supports that.
    ILL Atom machine is HP - Compaq Mini 311c with Intel Atom® Processor N270.
    ILL HP Compaq nc6400 Notebook PC has Intel® Core™ Duo Processor T2400.
    Change CPU in HP Compaq nc6400. Supposedly Socket M, try to use Core 2 (such as Intel® Core™2 Duo Processor T7600 - see manual for details).
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Merom_(microprocessor)
    Supposedly Intel GMA 950, which is bad. Try to install Leap with Core 2, not TW.

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    Default Re: Installing openSUSE Tumbleweed i686 on 32bit Compaq NC-6400 laptop:

    Hi all and thanks for the help so far. @mrmazda adding the nomodeset flag to the usb boot parameter did in fact help BIGTIME. I am now able to almost get through the entire installation which does take some time. Then at the end of installation (98% completion) I get an error message relating to GRUB2 to device failure to install due to Decompressor being to large. I have attached a screenshot taken by spectacle of the error here: ----> https://ibb.co/6Jh4t7C

    I do know that my Gateway nc-6400 laptop does not have UEFI capability (The laptop that I am installing openSUSE TW on). When installation is finished and I reboot the laptop it gets stuck at a flashing cursor at a blank screen.

    I am trying to understand what you all suggest I do but am not certain if I am following that well now at this point. Do you suggest I may want to start a new tread about this perhaps? I do thank you for the help so far because I am much further now than I was initially with the installation.

    Thank You

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    Default Re: Installing openSUSE Tumbleweed i686 on 32bit Compaq NC-6400 laptop:

    inxi output:
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    inxi -Fxz
    System:
    Kernel: 5.11.2-1-default i686 bits: 32 compiler: gcc v: 10.2.1
    Desktop: KDE Plasma 5.21.1 Distro: openSUSE Tumbleweed 20210307
    Machine:
    Type: Laptop System: Hewlett-Packard
    product: HP Compaq nc6400 (RC454AW#ABA) v: F.0B serial: <filter>
    Mobo: Hewlett-Packard model: 30AD v: KBC Version 56.34
    serial: <filter> BIOS: Hewlett-Packard v: 68YCU Ver. F.0B
    date: 09/05/2007
    CPU:
    Info: Dual Core model: Intel T2400 bits: 32 type: MCP arch: M Yonah
    rev: 8 cache: L2: 2 MiB
    flags: nx pae sse sse2 sse3 vmx bogomips: 7314
    Speed: 997 MHz min/max: 1000/1833 MHz Core speeds (MHz): 1: 997 2: 997
    Graphics:
    Device-1: Intel Mobile 945GM/GMS 943/940GML Express Integrated Graphics vendor: Hewlett-Packard driver: N/A bus-ID: 00:02.0
    Display: x11 server: X.org 1.20.10 driver: loaded: vesa
    unloaded: fbdev,modesetting resolution: <missing: xdpyinfo>
    OpenGL: renderer: llvmpipe (LLVM 11.0.1 128 bits) v: 4.5 Mesa 20.3.4
    direct render: Yes
    Audio:
    Device-1: Intel NM10/ICH7 Family High Definition Audio
    vendor: Hewlett-Packard driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel
    bus-ID: 00:1b.0
    Sound Server-1: ALSA v: k5.11.2-1-default running: yes
    Sound Server-2: PulseAudio v: 14.2-rebootstrapped running: yes
    Sound Server-3: PipeWire v: 0.3.22 running: no
    Network:
    Device-1: Broadcom NetXtreme BCM5753M Gigabit Ethernet PCI Express
    vendor: Hewlett-Packard driver: tg3 v: kernel port: 40d0
    bus-ID: 08:00.0
    IF: ens1 state: down mac: <filter>
    Device-2: Intel PRO/Wireless 3945ABG [Golan] Network
    vendor: Hewlett-Packard driver: iwl3945 v: in-tree:s port: 40d0
    bus-ID: 10:00.0
    IF: wlp16s0 state: up mac: <filter>
    Bluetooth:
    Device-1: HP Bluetooth 2.0 Interface [Broadcom BCM2045] type: USB
    driver: btusb v: 0.8 bus-ID: 2-1:2
    Report: This feature requires one of these tools: hciconfig/bt-adapter
    Drives:
    Local Storage: total: 154.72 GiB used: 506 MiB (0.3%)
    ID-1: /dev/sda vendor: Seagate model: ST9160314AS size: 149.05 GiB
    ID-2: /dev/sdb type: USB model: N/A size: 3.73 GiB
    ID-3: /dev/sdc type: USB model: USB 2.0 Flash Disk size: 1.94 GiB
    Partition:
    ID-1: / size: 2.76 GiB used: 466.4 MiB (16.5%) fs: overlay
    source: ERR-102
    Swap:
    Alert: No Swap data was found.
    Sensors:
    System Temperatures: cpu: 38.0 C mobo: N/A
    Fan Speeds (RPM): N/A
    Info:
    Processes: 176 Uptime: N/A Memory: 3.31 GiB used: 1.03 GiB (31.0%)
    Init: systemd runlevel: 5 Compilers: gcc: N/A Packages: 1711
    Shell: Bash v: 5.1.4 inxi: 3.3.03

    I was unable to add this inxi output information to my previous message due to 10 minutes passing.

    Thank You

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    Alert: No Swap data was found.
    That's bad.

    Use # button for tags, enframe all output with them.

    Do not use BTRFS, use ext4/XFS.

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    Default Re: Installing openSUSE Tumbleweed i686 on 32bit Compaq NC-6400 laptop:

    Code:
    # inxi -Cy
    CPU:
      Info: Single Core model: Intel Pentium 4 bits: 64 type: MT cache: L2: 2 MiB
      Speed: 2993 MHz min/max: N/A Core speeds (MHz): 1: 2993 2: 2993
    # inxi -GSay
    System:
      Host: gx151 Kernel: 5.10.16-1-default i686 bits: 32 compiler: gcc v: 10.2.1
      ...
      Desktop: KDE Plasma 5.21.4 tk: Qt 5.15.2 wm: kwin_x11 vt: 3 dm: startx
      Distro: openSUSE Tumbleweed 20210418
    Graphics:
      Device-1: Intel 82945G/GZ Integrated Graphics vendor: Dell driver: i915
      v: kernel bus-ID: 00:02.0 chip-ID: 8086:2772 class-ID: 0300
      Display: x11 server: X.Org 1.20.10 compositor: kwin_x11 driver: loaded: intel
      unloaded: fbdev,modesetting,vesa display-ID: :1 screens: 1
      Screen-1: 0 s-res: 1680x1050 s-dpi: 96 s-size: 444x277mm (17.5x10.9")
      s-diag: 523mm (20.6")
      Monitor-1: VGA1 res: 1680x1050 hz: 60 dpi: 91 size: 470x300mm (18.5x11.8")
      diag: 558mm (22")
      OpenGL: renderer: Mesa DRI Intel 945G x86/MMX/SSE2 v: 1.4 Mesa 21.0.2
      direct render: Yes
    This is essentially the same IGP as panorain's, in desktop form rather than laptop. Plasma starts up fine using the Intel DDX driver, but after a rather short while, it spontaneously aborts. Using the Modesetting DIX driver, Plasma startup doesn't complete. Using DM instead of startx doesn't help. IceWM session rather than Plasma completes, and stays completed. While the TW installation is 32bit, the CPU is actually a 64 bit Pentium 4 630, same basic family as a T2400, 65 nm lithography.
    Code:
    # cat .xsession-errors
    /usr/etc/X11/xdm/Xsession: Checking whether an input method should be started.
    sourcing /etc/sysconfig/language to get the value of INPUT_METHOD
    INPUT_METHOD is not set or empty (no user selected input method).
    Trying to start a default input method for the locale en_US.UTF-8 ...
    There is no default input method for the current locale.
    Dummy input method "none" (do not use any fancy input method by default)
    gpg-connect-agent: no gpg-agent running in this session
    gpg-connect-agent: no gpg-agent running in this session
    xsettingsd: Loaded 0 settings from /root/.config/xsettingsd/xsettingsd.conf
    xsettingsd: Created window 0x2800001 on screen 0 with timestamp 243581
    xsettingsd: Selection _XSETTINGS_S0 is owned by 0x0
    xsettingsd: Took ownership of selection _XSETTINGS_S0
    xsettingsd: Reloading configuration
    xsettingsd: Loaded 10 settings from /root/.config/xsettingsd/xsettingsd.conf
    xsettingsd: Reloading configuration
    xsettingsd: Loaded 10 settings from /root/.config/xsettingsd/xsettingsd.conf
    xsettingsd: Reloading configuration
    xsettingsd: Loaded 10 settings from /root/.config/xsettingsd/xsettingsd.conf
    xsettingsd: Reloading configuration
    xsettingsd: Loaded 10 settings from /root/.config/xsettingsd/xsettingsd.conf
    xsettingsd: Reloading configuration
    xsettingsd: Loaded 10 settings from /root/.config/xsettingsd/xsettingsd.conf
    xsettingsd: Reloading configuration
    xsettingsd: Loaded 10 settings from /root/.config/xsettingsd/xsettingsd.conf
    xsettingsd: Reloading configuration
    xsettingsd: Loaded 10 settings from /root/.config/xsettingsd/xsettingsd.conf
    xsettingsd: Reloading configuration
    xsettingsd: Loaded 10 settings from /root/.config/xsettingsd/xsettingsd.conf
    xsettingsd: Reloading configuration
    xsettingsd: Loaded 10 settings from /root/.config/xsettingsd/xsettingsd.conf
    [E][pipewire.c:335 add_interface()] can't get Spa:Pointer:Interface:Log interface -2
    [E][pipewire.c:368 load_journal_logger()] can't get log interface -2
    [E][pipewire.c:335 add_interface()] can't get Spa:Pointer:Interface:CPU interface -2
    startkde: Starting up...
    klauncher: Exiting on signal 1
    X connection to :0 broken (explicit kill or server shutdown)
    So, there's obviously something wrong with this Plasma installation, but Xorg itself seems to be fine with the Intel DDX driver on i945G for desktop.

    Quote Originally Posted by panorain View Post
    Code:
      Display: x11 server: X.org 1.20.10 driver: loaded: vesa 
      unloaded: fbdev,modesetting resolution: <missing: xdpyinfo>
    panorain, assuming this inxi is from a completed installation, vesa should not be the driver in use. If this was from a nomodeset boot, then ignore this. Again, if this is from an installed system, please install xdpyinfo before using inxi again, and if /var/log/Xorg.0.log exists do this:
    Code:
    susepaste /var/log/Xorg.0.log
    If it does not exist, but ~/.local/share/xorg/Xorg.#.log exists, then do:
    Code:
    susepaste ~/.local/share/xorg/Xorg.#.log
    Either way, provide the resulting URL here. I used # because the number might be something other than 0. If more than one such log exists, only the newest should be uploaded.

    About that Grub error, I'm clueless ATM. Maybe a web search or a Bugzilla search can find something.
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