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    Default leap15.2 and myoldlaptop=freeze. but linux !leap15.12 - ok

    When a lot of heavy applications are running: evolution, ms teams, firefox, viber: the system often freezes for 10 ... 60 minutes.
    I see - the indicator light of requests to the hard drive is on.
    Does not respond to keyboard and mouse.

    Now I tried to install ubuntu20.04 on the same laptop.
    I work with exactly the same applications and also use them: no freezes !
    Less than a second, fading occurred a couple of times a day.

    Who can advise - what settings inside ubuntu20.04 to look at in order to try to reproduce them in leap15.2 ?

    My old laptop (I know that its specifications are below the minimum recommended Leap15.2):
    ext2 and ext4 only. xfce.
    Model: Hewlett-Packard Company NX7300 laptop
    Code:
    $ hwinfo --mem 
    01: None 00.0: 10102 Main Memory                                
      [Created at memory.74]
      Unique ID: rdCR.CxwsZFjVASF
      Hardware Class: memory
      Model: "Main Memory"
      Memory Range: 0x00000000-0xb679cfff (rw)
      Memory Size: 2 GB + 768 MB
      Config Status: cfg=new, avail=yes, need=no, active=unknown
    $ hwinfo --short
    cpu:                                                            
     Intel(R) Core(TM)2 CPU         T7400  @ 2.16GHz, 1721 MHz
     Intel(R) Core(TM)2 CPU         T7400  @ 2.16GHz, 1975 MHz
    monitor:
     LGPhilipsLCD LCD Monitor
    graphics card:
     Intel Mobile 945GM/GMS/GME, 943/940GML Express Integrated Graphics Controller
     Intel 945 GM
    storage:
     Intel 82801GBM/GHM (ICH7-M Family) SATA Controller [AHCI mode]
     Intel 82801G (ICH7 Family) IDE Controller
    network:
     eth0   Hewlett-Packard Company NX7300 laptop
     wlan0  Hewlett-Packard Company BCM4311 802.11b/g Wireless LAN Controller
    bluetooth:
     HP Bluetooth 2.0 Interface [Broadcom BCM2045]

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    Default Re: leap15.2 and myoldlaptop=freeze. but linux !leap15.12 - ok

    Is the RAM full? You have only 2 GB, 4GB are possible...

    https://support.hp.com/si-en/document/c00801207

    Do you have a swap partition? Really a HDD, no SSD?

    I would try Tumbleweed, just to check.
    Kind regards

    raspu

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    Default Re: leap15.2 and myoldlaptop=freeze. but linux !leap15.12 - ok

    Quote Originally Posted by suse_rasputin View Post
    Is the RAM full? You have only 2 GB, 4GB are possible...

    https://support.hp.com/si-en/document/c00801207

    Do you have a swap partition? Really a HDD, no SSD?

    I would try Tumbleweed, just to check.
    Yes both ( and leap15.2 and ubuntu20.04) used swap
    both - swap partition size = 5G
    hdd(sata)

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    Default Re: leap15.2 and myoldlaptop=freeze. but linux !leap15.12 - ok

    Maybe try SSH into it from another machine if possible? If it is still responding you could check free memory or hanging processes etc.
    Last edited by kasi042; 04-Mar-2021 at 04:30. Reason: missing word

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    Default Re: leap15.2 and myoldlaptop=freeze. but linux !leap15.12 - ok

    Quote Originally Posted by kasi042 View Post
    Maybe try SSH into it from another machine if possible? If it is still responding you could check free memory or hanging processes etc.
    At the moment of such a freeze in Leap15.2 (at the very beginning) I managed to switch by Ctrl-Alt-F1) (text console).
    Entered username: root
    After a while, an invitation to enter the password appeared.
    I entered "root" password.
    After that I waited for a long time. But bash never showed up


    I am pondering (looking for) what settings differ between ubuntu20.04 and Leap15.2.
    Settings that affect the behavior of the system in conditions of insufficient RAM.

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    Question Re: leap15.2 and myoldlaptop=freeze. but linux !leap15.12 - ok

    Quote Originally Posted by skoltogyan View Post
    Now I tried to install ubuntu20.04 on the same laptop.
    AFAICS, for the system partition, Ubuntu uses ext4 as the default file system –
    • Did you install the Ubuntu system with Btrfs as the default file system?


    My thoughts are, that the default openSUSE usage of having Btrfs as the file system on the system partition may have provoked the issue you experienced …

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    Default Re: leap15.2 and myoldlaptop=freeze. but linux !leap15.12 - ok

    Quote Originally Posted by dcurtisfra View Post
    AFAICS, for the system partition, Ubuntu uses ext4 as the default file system –
    • Did you install the Ubuntu system with Btrfs as the default file system?


    My thoughts are, that the default openSUSE usage of having Btrfs as the file system on the system partition may have provoked the issue you experienced …
    Borth (Leap15.2 and Ubuntu20.04) - ext4 ( /boot - ext2, / and /home - ext4. swap - 5G)

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    Default Re: leap15.2 and myoldlaptop=freeze. but linux !leap15.12 - ok

    Just out of curiosity, what's the GPU on the laptop? I found Ubuntu is typically has a more robust Nouveau that can handle dGPU without freezing.

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    Default Re: leap15.2 and myoldlaptop=freeze. but linux !leap15.12 - ok

    1. Install 4 GiB memory = 2 + 2.
    2. Use SSD for a system with a big onboard cache.
    3. Lower dedicated video memory volume to 64-256 MiB

    Intel Graphics Media Accelerator 950, up to 224 MB shared system memory
    4. Use lightweight DE (not GNOME).
    5. Do not use BTRFS.
    6. You may upgrade CPU to:

    • Core 2 Duo T7700 – 2.40 GHz (4 MB L2, 800 MHz FSB)
    • Core 2 Duo T7600 – 2.33 GHz (4 MB L2, 667 MHz FSB)
    • Core 2 Duo T7500 – 2.20 GHz (4 MB L2, 800 MHz FSB)
    • Core 2 Duo T7400 – 2.16 GHz (4 MB L2, 667 MHz FSB)


    7. Intel Graphics Media Accelerator 950, OpenGL 1.4 - use XRender, not OpenGL 2.0 for compositing (depends on DE).
    8. IMHO with system memory = 4 GiB use swap = 8+ GiB.


    Notebook is too old for an ordinary desktop usage. Try https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Light-...x_distribution .

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    Default Re: leap15.2 and myoldlaptop=freeze. but linux !leap15.12 - ok

    Quote Originally Posted by SJLPHI View Post
    Just out of curiosity, what's the GPU on the laptop? I found Ubuntu is typically has a more robust Nouveau that can handle dGPU without freezing.
    Intel Graphics Media Accelerator 950 in chipset.

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