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    Default I have ThinkPad E590 with 4GB RAM and no SSD and random freez in linux distro

    My company give me Lenevo ThinkPad E590 with 4GB of RAM and CPU intel CORE i3.
    I installed on in last Manajro with Gnome and Ubuntu 20.04
    sometimes when I open many app and browser . my system Freez and I can not use it and I have to Turn off it by power key and turn on it again by power key.
    My company can not change RAM to 8GB or more.
    what is best recommendation for use this ThinkPad?
    can I install on this ThinkPad opensuse and use it without problem?
    I had random freez by Manajro and Ubuntu.
    which version of opensuse is right for my ThinkPad

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    Default Re: I have ThinkPad E590 with 4GB RAM and no SSD and random freez in linux distro

    Hi, I have a test install of Leap 15.2 Gnome on an old laptop with just 2 GB of RAM, so I don't think that 4GB is the real problem.
    Sure, you cannot expect to have Firefox open with 20+ tabs and have spectacular speed with that, but a properly configured system should not "freeze".
    Maybe you have a badly configured swap (or no swap at all?) and with extreme conditions a system might take 10+ minutes to recover normal operation, which looks very similar to a "freeze" to the casual user.
    I cannot comment about other distros, but if you install Leap or Tumbleweed and you still face problems you can ask for help here.
    Be prepared to describe exactly your configuration and what you technically mean by "freeze".
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    Default Re: I have ThinkPad E590 with 4GB RAM and no SSD and random freez in linux distro

    Quote Originally Posted by OrsoBruno View Post
    Hi, I have a test install of Leap 15.2 Gnome on an old laptop with just 2 GB of RAM, so I don't think that 4GB is the real problem.
    Sure, you cannot expect to have Firefox open with 20+ tabs and have spectacular speed with that, but a properly configured system should not "freeze".
    Maybe you have a badly configured swap (or no swap at all?) and with extreme conditions a system might take 10+ minutes to recover normal operation, which looks very similar to a "freeze" to the casual user.
    I cannot comment about other distros, but if you install Leap or Tumbleweed and you still face problems you can ask for help here.
    Be prepared to describe exactly your configuration and what you technically mean by "freeze".
    Thanks, nice guide.
    when my system Freez I can not do not anything by ThinkPad. I can not open Terminal and type reboot. I can not switch from gnome to terminal . when my system freez everything stop working and I have too shutdwon system by power key

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    Default Re: I have ThinkPad E590 with 4GB RAM and no SSD and random freez in linux distro

    Quote Originally Posted by mfaridi View Post
    My company give me Lenevo ThinkPad E590 with 4GB of RAM and CPU intel CORE i3.
    what is best recommendation for use this ThinkPad?
    can I install on this ThinkPad opensuse and use it without problem?
    I had random freez by Manajro and Ubuntu.
    which version of opensuse is right for my ThinkPad
    We have a ThinkPad E550 with 4GB of RAM and CPU intel CORE i5, and 500 GB mechanical hard drive. It dual boots Windows 10 and openSUSE Leap 15.1. We use openSUSE almost exclusively, and it works great. If you are looking for stability, I recommend Leap instead of Tumbleweed.
    Howard
    ThinkPads 310ED, 600E, T23, X41, X60, T61, X201, E550, X390

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    Quote Originally Posted by crmrhm View Post
    We have a ThinkPad E550 with 4GB of RAM and CPU intel CORE i5, and 500 GB mechanical hard drive. It dual boots Windows 10 and openSUSE Leap 15.1. We use openSUSE almost exclusively, and it works great. If you are looking for stability, I recommend Leap instead of Tumbleweed.
    Thanks
    I will test it. which version is better ? Gnome or KDE or XFCE?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mfaridi View Post
    Thanks
    I will test it. which version is better ? Gnome or KDE or XFCE?
    Desktop choice is strictly personal preference. I started with KDE long ago because it was (at the time) SuSE's default. I still prefer KDE, in part because of Dolphin, in part because I have already learned useful features in Krusader and Konqueror, and am not inclined to learn a new desktop. Lots of people in the forum use Gnome, and a fair number use Xfce. Enjoy testing.
    Regards,
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    Default Re: I have ThinkPad E590 with 4GB RAM and no SSD and random freez in linux distro

    Quote Originally Posted by mfaridi View Post
    Thanks
    I will test it. which version is better ? Gnome or KDE or XFCE?
    XFCE is the lightest of the three and more suited to systems with limited resources. KDE is less hungry for RAM than Gnome these days (about 450 MB vs 1050 MB with just the desktop running, but firefox alone easily exceeds that with a few tabs open).
    Other than that, all are excellent desktops and you'll find help here on all of them in case of need, so it is largely a matter of personal taste.
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    Default Re: I have ThinkPad E590 with 4GB RAM and no SSD and random freez in linux distro

    Quote Originally Posted by mfaridi View Post
    I had random freez by Manajro and Ubuntu.
    Given this, I would give RAM a thorough workout (many hours) with memtest86 before expecting a switch to openSUSE to help. Even brand new RAM can be bad.

    Some E590 models are equipped with a Radeon GPU. Does this describe yours?
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    Default Re: I have ThinkPad E590 with 4GB RAM and no SSD and random freez in linux distro

    Quote Originally Posted by mrmazda View Post
    Given this, I would give RAM a thorough workout (many hours) with memtest86 before expecting a switch to openSUSE to help. Even brand new RAM can be bad.

    Some E590 models are equipped with a Radeon GPU. Does this describe yours?
    Thanks
    My ThinkPad has only Intel GPU
    this is specification of my ThinkPad in Manjaro

    Code:
               
    Machine:   Type: Laptop System: LENOVO product: 20NB0057UE v: ThinkPad E590 serial: <filter> 
               Mobo: LENOVO model: 20NB0057UE serial: <filter> UEFI: LENOVO v: R0YET32W (1.15 ) date: 06/10/2019 
    Battery:   ID-1: BAT0 charge: 36.8 Wh condition: 48.2/45.3 Wh (106%) model: SMP 01AV446 status: Discharging 
    CPU:       Topology: Dual Core model: Intel Core i3-8145U bits: 64 type: MT MCP arch: Kaby Lake rev: C L2 cache: 4096 KiB 
               flags: avx avx2 lm nx pae sse sse2 sse3 sse4_1 sse4_2 ssse3 vmx bogomips: 18406 
               Speed: 900 MHz min/max: 400/3900 MHz Core speeds (MHz): 1: 900 2: 900 3: 900 4: 900 
    Graphics:  Device-1: Intel UHD Graphics 620 vendor: Lenovo driver: i915 v: kernel bus ID: 00:02.0 
               Display: x11 server: X.org 1.20.8 driver: i915 resolution: <xdpyinfo missing> 
               OpenGL: renderer: Mesa Intel UHD Graphics 620 (WHL GT2) v: 4.6 Mesa 20.1.3 direct render: Yes 
    Audio:     Device-1: Intel Cannon Point-LP High Definition Audio vendor: Lenovo driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel 
               bus ID: 00:1f.3 
               Sound Server: ALSA v: k5.6.19-2-MANJARO 
    Network:   Device-1: Realtek RTL8111/8168/8411 PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet vendor: Lenovo driver: r8169 v: kernel port: 2000 
               bus ID: 04:00.0 
               IF: enp4s0 state: down mac: <filter> 
               Device-2: Intel Wireless-AC 9260 driver: iwlwifi v: kernel port: 2000 bus ID: 05:00.0 
               IF: wlp5s0 state: up mac: <filter> 
               IF-ID-1: ip_vti0 state: down mac: <filter> 
               IF-ID-2: ppp0 state: unknown speed: N/A duplex: N/A mac: N/A 
    Drives:    Local Storage: total: 931.51 GiB used: 102.16 GiB (11.0%) 
               ID-1: /dev/sda vendor: Seagate model: ST1000LM035-1RK172 size: 931.51 GiB 
    Partition: ID-1: / size: 915.60 GiB used: 102.16 GiB (11.2%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/sda2 
    Sensors:   System Temperatures: cpu: 42.0 C mobo: 0.0 C 
               Fan Speeds (RPM): cpu: 0 
    Info:      Processes: 255 Uptime: 35m Memory: 3.69 GiB used: 1.64 GiB (44.3%) Init: systemd Compilers: gcc: 10.1.0 Shell: zsh 
               v: 5.8 inxi: 3.0.37

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    Default Re: I have ThinkPad E590 with 4GB RAM and no SSD and random freez in linux distro

    Quote Originally Posted by mfaridi View Post
    Thanks
    My ThinkPad has only Intel GPU
    this is specification of my ThinkPad in Manjaro

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    Drives:    Local Storage: total: 931.51 GiB used: 102.16 GiB (11.0%) 
               ID-1: /dev/sda vendor: Seagate model: ST1000LM035-1RK172 size: 931.51 GiB 
    Partition: ID-1: / size: 915.60 GiB used: 102.16 GiB (11.2%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/sda2
    Not really sure, but this seems to tell us that you are operating the system with no swap. If that is really the case, operating a system with 4GB RAM and no swap is not a good practice nowadays.
    Even a peak use of near to 4GB RAM will activate the OOM killer, killing immediately the process that tries to use additional RAM; that should not cause a system freeze normally, but maybe that occasionally depends on what process is killed.
    I would recommend setting up a swap partition (even a small one) so that in case of trouble you notice a slowdown before getting to a freeze and you might be able to find out what is happening and possibly remove the root cause.
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