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    Default mingw confusion, is it another wine ?

    Hi Guys

    I have ofcourse googled but that did not help much.

    Mingw seems to be something made by the gnu(gnu is not Unix) guys.

    It seems to be windows for Linux, and that's were my confusion starts.

    Wine is already windows for Linux ?

    The dependencies, of a program called Carla seems to need both mingw and Wine.

    How does this work ?

    You need to compile twice ?


    When I search in YAST, I do find allot of mingw related stuff, but which one do I need ?
    Do I have to talk to the Carla developer? ( I already know he knows allot about debian / ubuntu, but not openSUSE.)


    I think I found the right package, but I am beyond lost, what to do with it.

    mingw32-binutils

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    Default Re: mingw confusion, is it another wine ?

    Hi
    mingw is the 'cross compiler' to 'make' the windows application, then you run the application in wine....

    In the source there should be documentation and what is required etc?

    Do you have a link to the source?
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    Default Re: mingw confusion, is it another wine ?

    Thank you its already starting to make a bit more sense now.

    https://github.com/falkTX/Carla

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    Default Re: mingw confusion, is it another wine ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gps2010 View Post
    Thank you its already starting to make a bit more sense now.

    https://github.com/falkTX/Carla
    Hi
    So you only want the wine version, or native linux?
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    I would like to use Carla in LMMS.

    Carla should be able to load windows VST. ( that's were wine come in, most vst are .dll files)

    The Carla version from our repositories does not support vst

    I have talked to the package maintainer, but when it comes to mingw he seems to be as confused as me.

    If possible I would want Linux native at least as much as possible.

    The part I do get, it has to do with the red crosses in Carla as shown in the picture.

    https://paste.opensuse.org/5625363


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    Quote Originally Posted by Gps2010 View Post
    I would like to use Carla in LMMS.

    Carla should be able to load windows VST. ( that's were wine come in, most vst are .dll files)

    The Carla version from our repositories does not support vst

    I have talked to the package maintainer, but when it comes to mingw he seems to be as confused as me.

    If possible I would want Linux native at least as much as possible.

    The part I do get, it has to do with the red crosses in Carla as shown in the picture.

    https://paste.opensuse.org/5625363

    Hi
    X11 == VST, if your running wayland then that may be your issue? You haven't installed python3-rdflib?
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    I do not understand the X11 == vst part.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virtual_Studio_Technology

    Virtual Studio Technology (VST) is an audio plug-in software interface that integrates software synthesizer and effects in digital audio workstations. VST and similar technologies use digital signal processing to simulate traditional recording studio hardware in software. Thousands of plugins exist, both commercial and freeware, and many audio applications support VST under license from its creator, Steinberg.

    I looked in yast but don't have, python3-rdflib installed.

    I fear I will end up, compiling Carla myself.


    Because of you're reply though, I think I am getting it.
    It seems I will have to compile some (windows) stuff using mingw, so that after the compile of Carla, that stuff can work through wine.




    Maybe I should just give up on usng vst in Carla, because. with Carla from our repositories, I can already do stuff I could not do before in LMMS.
    Use native Linux plugins.

    One of my favourite VST, already works through Vestige in LMMS. (LMMS version from our repositories, look in YAST for LMMS vst, not just LMMS.)

    This is already a step forward for me, because I was using an appimage file for LMMS.

    Also maybe talk to the LMMS devs if they can do some work, so that this vst will work.

    Ample Guitar M Lite
    I already tried this one through vestige, but run into issues, so I was hoping to use it through Carla.

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    Hi
    Other OBS users have it built, either link or create your own package in your build repo... at least that should remove one issue...
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    I saw something about branching on the obs, that's sounds as the way to go.

    This should save me from getting 99 % of the dependencies and all.
    We already have a fine working Carla.

    Then my part would only be about something called Carla bridges and mingw.


    As Jeremy Clarkson would say, how hard can it be?

    Some memories about previous compile attempts, are coming back although I was trying to forget them.

    If I recall right, I will have to find and download some windows stuff. (Should be mentioned some were in the Carla docs).
    This might be also the point were I got stuck last time though.

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    Default Re: mingw confusion, is it another wine ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gps2010 View Post
    I saw something about branching on the obs, that's sounds as the way to go.

    This should save me from getting 99 % of the dependencies and all.
    We already have a fine working Carla.

    Then my part would only be about something called Carla bridges and mingw.


    As Jeremy Clarkson would say, how hard can it be?

    Some memories about previous compile attempts, are coming back although I was trying to forget them.

    If I recall right, I will have to find and download some windows stuff. (Should be mentioned some were in the Carla docs).
    This might be also the point were I got stuck last time though.
    Hi
    Ahh it is in Tumbleweed, Leap 15.1 and 15.2....

    Code:
    Information for package python3-rdflib:
    ---------------------------------------
    Repository     : Main Repository (OSS)                
    Name           : python3-rdflib
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