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    Default Re: Carla ( a plugin host) wich can be used in LMMS and other music software like ardour)

    I am getting more and more confused about the obs.

    After a password recovery, I can log in again, and started a new home, named Carla for tumbleweed.


    I cant seem to extract a zip file I added ?

    Then I unpacked the source code zip at my own pc, but then it won't allow me to upload that folder.
    Because its expecting a file.

    This most be totally different from compiling at you're own pc ?


    There the first step is to get the source code.

    This page is only adding to my confusion:
    https://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Build_Service_Tutorial

    I must be understanding this totally wrong ?
    Were am I gonna build the package at my pc or on the obs ?

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    Default Re: Carla ( a plugin host) wich can be used in LMMS and other music software like ardour)

    You can use OBS from the webinterface, and through osc on your local machine. But why insist in compiling/building your own package, when Dave Plater already builds a recent one from git in the multimedia:apps repo?

    If you want to go your own road, contact Dave ( his email address is on the package's page in OBS.
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    Default Re: Carla ( a plugin host) wich can be used in LMMS and other music software like ardour)

    Thank you, but

    I have installed LMMS and Carla from openSUSE sources many times.

    This ended one time in me talking with packman, and then talking with the LMMS devs.
    Another time with me getting compile errors, to even which the LMMS devs said wtf ?


    These days I gave up on the LMMS part, and am using an appimage file, made by the LMMS devs.

    I am using LMMS for years now, and its nightmare to some extent.
    About every package builder from about every distro gets it wrong.
    Wine being one part of that problem. To solve this, is why the LMMS devs now have an apimage file.
    ( works on openSUSE leap and Tumbleweed, Ubuntu, Mint, Arch, Fedora and probably most 64 bit distro's around )

    I ones tried to compile Carla myself, but to keep this short, that why I am now on Tumbleweed.

    Back to today.
    I recently installed Carla from the obs, and again there is a problem.

    ( I can't even remember it fully working ones with all respect to the effort people put in to it because I know how hard it is to compile LMMS and Carla )


    That why I wanted to attempt to compile it my self again, and then maybe talk to Falk tx again, the dev of Carla if I encounter problems.

    I will talk to Dave first though, lets see if he knows what's wrong and why I am getting an invalid elf header error, when I try to add a (windows) VST into Carla.
    Maybe fork his branch if it's wine related.


    Last time I talked to the person who had put Carla on the obs, the first reply I got was that he did not know Carla needs wine for some task.
    He also was too busy with his personal life, to continue the project.
    I was asked if I wanted to takeover the project, but because I then would have to test for leap too, I declined.

    Carla is for me an ongoing battle ( 3 years or so ), in which I sometimes got so frustrated, I even considered distro hopping to KX Studio.
    ( On KX studio, LMMS and Carla will work right out of the box. like Firefox on openSUSE )

    I am however still very happy I ignored that impulse.

    Maybe I can help Dave and or Dave can help me.

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    Default Re: Carla ( a plugin host) wich can be used in LMMS and other music software like ardour)

    Please stop assuming there is such a thing as openSUSE sources. The carla sources are those from github. Packagers do not make their own sources, though they do sometimes apply patches. OBS / the spec file of a package should take care of that.

    AFAIK Dave Plater took over the maintenance of the carla builds.
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    Default Re: Carla ( a plugin host) wich can be used in LMMS and other music software like ardour)

    Thank you, will try to be more specific about the sources. Because I got Carla from the obs, I called it a official openSUSE source.

    I did notice they got the source from the github.

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    I made some progress.

    I emailed Dave, and found a much better OBS tutorial.

    https://openbuildservice.org/help/ma...ginners-guide/

    I then installed the command-line tool, and noticed something called git gui was installed too.

    With some luck I won't need it though, but I am starting to see the light on how to do gitclone on the obs.


    Will now first wait for reply from Dave. I asked how i can tell if I have his Carla version installed, and if its build with wine support.
    Also offered to help, if I can.

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    Default Re: Carla ( a plugin host) wich can be used in LMMS and other music software like ardour)

    Quote Originally Posted by Gps2010 View Post
    I made some progress.

    I emailed Dave, and found a much better OBS tutorial.

    https://openbuildservice.org/help/ma...ginners-guide/

    I then installed the command-line tool, and noticed something called git gui was installed too.

    With some luck I won't need it though, but I am starting to see the light on how to do gitclone on the obs.


    Will now first wait for reply from Dave. I asked how i can tell if I have his Carla version installed, and if its build with wine support.
    Also offered to help, if I can.
    What I like about the web based version, is that I don't have to have the sources on my system. Another thing is the lot of workers that take care of building. Never affects my system.
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    Default Re: Carla ( a plugin host) wich can be used in LMMS and other music software like ardour)

    Keeping you're system clean is much better, I had in the past sometimes update issues, because I was using stuff newer then the normal repositories for leap have.
    To get all files needed for compiling I had to add the rolling release repositories.

    I also now understand how easy it can be to test for leap too.
    I can make a branch of a project for leap on the obs. Then another virtual machine is created, to me that's awesome.


    I already have answers from Dave though, and I am quite happy.

    To start with Carla, he never uses windows vst, so I am the right person to test this.
    He only uses Linux vst and that is good news to me too. One reason why I want Carla in LMMS, is to use Linux VST.

    Its almost funny Linux Multi Media studio, can't load Linux vst. ( you need Carla for that )

    He also said I don't need to use the LMMS appimage file any more.

    So I will be installing LMMS and Carla VST. ( not just Carla )


    So for those who want to make music on openSUSE, it seems all issues with LMMS and Carla are fixed.
    ( although I will have to test if I can load windows VST in Carla, but that's is a minor detail )

    Something else I now will try is to use the newer calf plugins. Newer then the ones that come with LMMS. (you cant do this without Carla)
    Carla adds features lmms is missing.

    Will be interesting to see what will happen in the future. Falk TX, the dev of Carla is also an LMMS dev.

    For people that don't want to use wine, both LMMS and Carla work without wine too.

    You can't without wine use one of my favourite plugins though.
    The mini moog VST
    http://www.vst4free.com/free_vst.php?id=405

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