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    Default Windows 10 update problem

    Hi there!
    I have a dual boot system: openSuse 15.1 (KDE Plasma desktop) on /dev/sda, and Windows 10 on /dev/sdb.
    Every time Windows 10 is updated, I can't restart in openSuse if I don't restart in Windows 10 first.
    This does not happen with updates from other operating systems such as Winsows7.
    Can someone tell me why this happens and if I can avoid it?
    Thank you in advance!
    [Adrián E. Córdoba]

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    Default Re: Windows 10 update problem

    No, this is Windows specific.
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    Hi
    Is this Legacy or UEFI booting? If UEFI are you sharing the same /boot/efi partition, or do you have separate ones?
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    Quote Originally Posted by malcolmlewis View Post
    Hi
    Is this Legacy or UEFI booting? If UEFI are you sharing the same /boot/efi partition, or do you have separate ones?
    It's a legacy (BIOS) boot system.
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    Quote Originally Posted by aecordoba View Post
    It's a legacy (BIOS) boot system.
    Hi
    Can you post the output from (as root user);

    Code:
    lsblk
    fdisk -l
    os-prober
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    I really do not know about this stuff, so this is for discussion only. Not a recommendation.

    Could this be something to do with Microsoft demanding control over the MBR on the primary (first) hard drive?

    Is it possible to easily swap the primary and secondary drives? Hopefully you are using UUIDs and not physical drive and partition labels.
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    Quote Originally Posted by malcolmlewis View Post
    Hi
    Can you post the output from (as root user);

    Code:
    lsblk
    fdisk -l
    os-prober
    I no longer have Windows 10 installed. I installed Windows 7 instead. (That's why I know that the problem does not happen with Windows 7.)
    Anyway here is what he asked for:
    Code:
    adrian@octans:~> sudo lsblk     
    NAME   MAJ:MIN RM   SIZE RO TYPE MOUNTPOINT
    sda      8:0    0 931.5G  0 disk  
    ├─sda1   8:1    0   271M  0 part /boot
    ├─sda2   8:2    0   7.5G  0 part [SWAP]
    ├─sda3   8:3    0  93.1G  0 part /
    └─sda4   8:4    0 830.7G  0 part /home
    sdb      8:16   0 931.5G  0 disk  
    ├─sdb1   8:17   0   549M  0 part  
    ├─sdb2   8:18   0  99.5G  0 part  
    ├─sdb3   8:19   0   300G  0 part  
    └─sdb4   8:20   0 531.5G  0 part /DATA
    sdc      8:32   0 465.8G  0 disk  
    └─sdc1   8:33   0 465.8G  0 part /backup
    sr0     11:0    1  1024M  0 rom   
    adrian@octans:~> sudo fdisk -l  
    Disk /dev/sda: 931.5 GiB, 1000204886016 bytes, 1953525168 sectors
    Disk model: WDC WD10EZEX-60Z
    Units: sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes
    Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 4096 bytes
    I/O size (minimum/optimal): 4096 bytes / 4096 bytes
    Disklabel type: dos
    Disk identifier: 0x0009f7f7
    
    DeviceBoot    Start       End   Sectors  SizeIdType
    /dev/sda1  *         2048     557055     555008   271M 83 Linux
    /dev/sda2          557056   16181247   15624192   7.5G 82 Linux swap / Solaris
    /dev/sda3        16181248  211492863  195311616  93.1G 83 Linux
    /dev/sda4       211492864 1953525167 1742032304 830.7G 83 Linux
    
    
    Disk /dev/sdb: 931.5 GiB, 1000204886016 bytes, 1953525168 sectors
    Disk model: WDC WD10EZEX-08W
    Units: sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes
    Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 4096 bytes
    I/O size (minimum/optimal): 4096 bytes / 4096 bytes
    Disklabel type: dos
    Disk identifier: 0xfe37e8d0
    
    DeviceBoot    Start       End   Sectors  SizeIdType
    /dev/sdb1  *         2048    1126399    1124352   549M  7 HPFS/NTFS/exFAT
    /dev/sdb2         1126400  209715199  208588800  99.5G  7 HPFS/NTFS/exFAT
    /dev/sdb3       209715200  838860799  629145600   300G  7 HPFS/NTFS/exFAT
    /dev/sdb4       838860800 1953521663 1114660864 531.5G  7 HPFS/NTFS/exFAT
    
    
    Disk /dev/sdc: 465.8 GiB, 500107862016 bytes, 976773168 sectors
    Disk model: SAMSUNG HD502HJ  
    Units: sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes
    Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
    I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
    Disklabel type: dos
    Disk identifier: 0x23ae1fa4
    
    DeviceBootStart      End  Sectors  SizeIdType
    /dev/sdc1        2048 976773167 976771120 465.8G 83 Linux
    
    
    adrian@octans:~> sudo os-prober
    /dev/sdb1:Windows 7:Windows:chain
    adrian@octans:~> 
    
    
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    Quote Originally Posted by aecordoba View Post
    I no longer have Windows 10 installed. I installed Windows 7 instead. (That's why I know that the problem does not happen with Windows 7.)
    Anyway here is what he asked for:
    Code:
    
    DeviceBoot    Start       End   Sectors  SizeIdType
    /dev/sda1  *         2048     557055     555008   271M 83 Linux
    
    DeviceBoot    Start       End   Sectors  SizeIdType
    /dev/sdb1  *         2048    1126399    1124352   549M  7 HPFS/NTFS/exFAT
    
    adrian@octans:~> sudo os-prober
    /dev/sdb1:Windows 7:Windows:chain
    adrian@octans:~> 
    
    
    Hi
    So in the BIOS it's likely switched the boot order to sdb, as can be seen the asterisk (*) on both drives is bootable, I would run fdisk /dev/sdb and remove the boot flag (press a from memory) and save/exit and check the output on /dev/sdb removes the *. Fire up YaST bootloader and ensure the probe foreign os is box is checked. Then reboot and in the BIOS set the boot order to use sda first.
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    Quote Originally Posted by malcolmlewis View Post
    Hi
    So in the BIOS it's likely switched the boot order to sdb, as can be seen the asterisk (*) on both drives is bootable, I would run fdisk /dev/sdb and remove the boot flag (press a from memory) and save/exit and check the output on /dev/sdb removes the *. Fire up YaST bootloader and ensure the probe foreign os is box is checked. Then reboot and in the BIOS set the boot order to use sda first.
    Thank you, malclmlewis.
    I'll try it.
    [Adrián E. Córdoba]

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