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    Quote Originally Posted by oakld View Post
    To compare it to RH is then quite useless. In that manner, we could say that OpenSUSE is doing better then a lot of dead Linux distros.
    As far as I know, RedHat is mainly a distro for businesses. And, these days, businesses are installing linux on cloud virtual servers. RH is very active there.

    And then there's Fedora, which is the community branch of RH. It also seems very active.

    Yes, SUSE is also heavily involved in cloud computing. And openSUSE Tumbleweed is where software is tested before it gets into SUSE.

    I don't see them as dying. I see them as adapting to change.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nrickert View Post
    As far as I know, RedHat is mainly a distro for businesses. And, these days, businesses are installing linux on cloud virtual servers. RH is very active there.

    And then there's Fedora, which is the community branch of RH. It also seems very active.

    Yes, SUSE is also heavily involved in cloud computing. And openSUSE Tumbleweed is where software is tested before it gets into SUSE.

    I don't see them as dying. I see them as adapting to change.
    Perhaps RH is targeted at businesses now, but 20+ years ago, around '97/98, it was first Linux distro I encountered, distributed with a PC magazine and targeted at an ordinary PC users as an alternative to WIndows 95/98. At that time it was best known and probably most advanced in GUI comfort installation tools too. We later with friends, still as students, purchased our first SuSE (I think it was 5.2), because we read good reviews about it. By the way it costed double what Windows 10 costs Today. Back then it seemed, that a desktop user will become a very important part of the user base for both RH and SuSE.

    I have only a vauge idea of SUSE business, so I can't judge on that. The only point in that field I could see is, that according to the statistics, the enterprise share seems to keep shrinking too.

    But anyhow, I am somehow satisfied, that so many people think that OpenSUSE/SuSE is doing fine :-).

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    Quote Originally Posted by oakld View Post
    Perhaps RH is targeted at businesses now, but 20+ years ago, around '97/98, it was first Linux distro I encountered, distributed with a PC magazine and targeted at an ordinary PC users as an alternative to WIndows 95/98.
    Back then, I had RH 7.3 on my desktop. I also had Slackware on a different partition (I was mainly a Slackware user back then). But RH 7.3 did do online updates, which was nice. RedHat split off the separate Fedora not long after that.

    At that time it was best known and probably most advanced in GUI comfort installation tools too.
    Redhat invented RPM (the Redhat package manager). And openSUSE is still using an updated version of that. Slackware never had a real package manager, though I gather that their community has now developed something.
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    According to https://distrowatch.com/ the ranking of openSUSE is currently #17 (out of 100 listed).
    Could be better, could be worse. Oh well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by unix111 View Post
    According to https://distrowatch.com/ the ranking of openSUSE is currently #17 (out of 100 listed).
    Could be better, could be worse. Oh well.
    Yep, one could say that. But the rank is not all. If you look into graph depicting numbers over the years, it seems that OpenSUSE has somewhat 5 times less users than at it's peak (it's difficult to guesstimate due to roughness of the graphs I saw).

    Of course, there might be and will be factors affecting the numbers in future, that could prove difficult to tackle. People will continue to use PCs and laptops less and less, many are already using solely their phones now. On the other hand, with Google plan to cut costs on mods and pushing to use pure Linux without the modifications into the Android, there might be a [purely] psychological effect that people are already using Linux and willingness to use it on desktops too; plus Windows is now 2nd class product for Microsoft and doesn't really fight Linux as they used to. So I wonder how the numbers will change in 5, 10 years...

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    openSUSE certainly peaked around 13.2 after which it dropped the 32-bit version from LEAP, retaining it only in Tumbleweed. So there was a drop with those who needed a 32-bit version going elsewhere but numbers isn’t everything. There are regular openSUSE conferences all over the world as well as SUSE Enterprise conferences. I don’t recall any other distros promoting regular conferences at different locations across the world.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oakld View Post
    Interesting and promising. My feeling is, that this is not getting to the end users and target public, though. Not even the target public doesn't know about it, but even long-time users such as me, unless they dig into the subject, like I'm doing it with this thread... But perhaps, it's only starting and it will get there eventually. Let's hope :-).
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    I'm a little concerned about this as well. If you look at Google Trends, OpenSUSE searches are clearly going down over the last 5 years which does indicate to me that interest is fading. That's a shame though because it's such an awesome distro.
    https://trends.google.com/trends/exp...5-y&q=opensuse

    But comparing opensuse to mx linux in trends shows that MX doesn't have more interest than OpenSUSE which kind of disputes the Distrowatch ranking for MX. That said, I know that revenue for SUSE has been increasing over the same period.
    https://trends.google.com/trends/exp...use,mx%20linux

    I'm not exactly sure what to make of that conflicting data. Anecdotally, when I told my coworkers that I used OpenSUSE, one of them said that he didn't know they were still around and another said he only liked to stick to the core distros. Lol. I told them that SUSE was one of the oldest dristros and they make far more money than Canonical. They were kind of shocked.

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