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    Default nur Lowercase in einigen Programmen

    Hallo liebe Community,


    seit heute habe ich das Problem, dass mein Bash, mein Libre-Office, meine Kate, mein Dolphin und das Testfeld für Tastaturlayouttests eine gedrückte Shift- oder Alt-Gr-Taste einfach ignorieren.
    Agenda, Opera, Firefox und die "Chefkonsole" (Strg+Alt+F2) sind (wie ihr seht) weiterhin in der Lage, Großbuchstaben und Sonderzeichen wie gewohnt zu verabeiten, ebenso funktionieren Kürzel wie Alt+F4 und Strg+Alt+Entf, aber auch Ctrl+C/V in Dolphin.




    Ich hab eine Weile erfolglos herumgegoogelt und das System nun mehrfach schon neu gestartet, eben auch den X-Server. Vorhin habe ich auch das System-Tastatur-Layout 'zurück' auf Deutsch mit Toten Tasten gestellt.
    Nichts an irgendwelchen Layouts herumgebastelt, und Deutsch ist die einzige Einstellung. Allerdings habe ich mithilfe von antimicro mein Gamepad eingerichtet.

    Ich kann euch derzeit nur das Herumtesten im xev zeigen.



    Code:
    xev   
    Outer window is 0x4e00001, inner window is 0x4e00002
    
    
    PropertyNotify event, serial 8, synthetic NO, window 0x4e00001,
        atom 0x27 (WM_NAME), time 1093646, state PropertyNewValue
    
    
    PropertyNotify event, serial 9, synthetic NO, window 0x4e00001,
        atom 0x22 (WM_COMMAND), time 1093646, state PropertyNewValue
    
    
    PropertyNotify event, serial 10, synthetic NO, window 0x4e00001,
        atom 0x28 (WM_NORMAL_HINTS), time 1093646, state PropertyNewValue
    
    
    CreateNotify event, serial 11, synthetic NO, window 0x4e00001,
        parent 0x4e00001, window 0x4e00002, (10,10), width 50, height 50
    border_width 4, override NO
    
    
    PropertyNotify event, serial 14, synthetic NO, window 0x4e00001,
        atom 0x159 (WM_PROTOCOLS), time 1093647, state PropertyNewValue
    
    
    MapNotify event, serial 15, synthetic NO, window 0x4e00001,
        event 0x4e00001, window 0x4e00002, override NO
    
    
    PropertyNotify event, serial 21, synthetic NO, window 0x4e00001,
        atom 0x216 (_KDE_NET_WM_USER_CREATION_TIME), time 1093647, state PropertyNewValue
    
    
    ConfigureNotify event, serial 26, synthetic NO, window 0x4e00001,
        event 0x4e00001, window 0x4e00001, (0,0), width 178, height 178,
        border_width 0, above 0x3e00008, override NO
    
    
    ReparentNotify event, serial 26, synthetic NO, window 0x4e00001,
        event 0x4e00001, window 0x4e00001, parent 0x1c001bd,
        (0,0), override NO
    
    
    PropertyNotify event, serial 29, synthetic NO, window 0x4e00001,
        atom 0x20c (_KDE_NET_WM_ACTIVITIES), time 1093649, state PropertyNewValue
    
    
    PropertyNotify event, serial 29, synthetic NO, window 0x4e00001,
        atom 0x185 (_NET_WM_STATE), time 1093649, state PropertyNewValue
    
    
    PropertyNotify event, serial 30, synthetic NO, window 0x4e00001,
        atom 0x1ed (_NET_WM_DESKTOP), time 1093649, state PropertyNewValue
    
    
    PropertyNotify event, serial 31, synthetic NO, window 0x4e00001,
        atom 0x185 (_NET_WM_STATE), time 1093649, state PropertyNewValue
    
    
    MapNotify event, serial 31, synthetic NO, window 0x4e00001,
        event 0x4e00001, window 0x4e00001, override NO
    
    
    VisibilityNotify event, serial 31, synthetic NO, window 0x4e00001,
        state VisibilityPartiallyObscured
    
    
    Expose event, serial 31, synthetic NO, window 0x4e00001,
        (0,0), width 1, height 1, count 0
    
    
    PropertyNotify event, serial 31, synthetic NO, window 0x4e00001,
        atom 0x162 (WM_STATE), time 1093649, state PropertyNewValue
    
    
    PropertyNotify event, serial 33, synthetic NO, window 0x4e00001,
        atom 0x1ed (_NET_WM_DESKTOP), time 1093675, state PropertyNewValue
    
    
    PropertyNotify event, serial 33, synthetic NO, window 0x4e00001,
        atom 0x1a2 (_NET_FRAME_EXTENTS), time 1093677, state PropertyNewValue
    
    
    PropertyNotify event, serial 33, synthetic NO, window 0x4e00001,
        atom 0x1a1 (_KDE_NET_WM_FRAME_STRUT), time 1093677, state PropertyNewValue
    
    
    PropertyNotify event, serial 33, synthetic NO, window 0x4e00001,
        atom 0x1f3 (_NET_WM_ALLOWED_ACTIONS), time 1093677, state PropertyNewValue
    
    
    VisibilityNotify event, serial 36, synthetic NO, window 0x4e00001,
        state VisibilityFullyObscured
    
    
    PropertyNotify event, serial 36, synthetic NO, window 0x4e00001,
        atom 0x185 (_NET_WM_STATE), time 1093677, state PropertyNewValue
    
    
    FocusIn event, serial 36, synthetic NO, window 0x4e00001,
        mode NotifyNormal, detail NotifyNonlinear
    
    
    KeymapNotify event, serial 36, synthetic NO, window 0x0,
        keys:  4294967201 0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0    
               0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0    
    
    
    ConfigureNotify event, serial 36, synthetic YES, window 0x4e00001,
        event 0x4e00001, window 0x4e00001, (0,669), width 178, height 178,
        border_width 0, above 0x0, override NO
    
    
    PropertyNotify event, serial 36, synthetic NO, window 0x4e00001,
        atom 0x20c (_KDE_NET_WM_ACTIVITIES), time 1093677, state PropertyNewValue
    
    
    PropertyNotify event, serial 36, synthetic NO, window 0x4e00001,
        atom 0x185 (_NET_WM_STATE), time 1093677, state PropertyNewValue
    
    
    VisibilityNotify event, serial 36, synthetic NO, window 0x4e00001,
        state VisibilityUnobscured
    
    
    Expose event, serial 36, synthetic NO, window 0x4e00001,
        (0,0), width 178, height 10, count 3
    
    
    Expose event, serial 36, synthetic NO, window 0x4e00001,
        (0,10), width 10, height 58, count 2
    
    
    Expose event, serial 36, synthetic NO, window 0x4e00001,
        (68,10), width 110, height 58, count 1
    
    
    Expose event, serial 36, synthetic NO, window 0x4e00001,
        (0,68), width 178, height 110, count 0
    
    
    ColormapNotify event, serial 36, synthetic NO, window 0x4e00001,
        colormap 0x20, new NO, state ColormapInstalled
    
    
    PropertyNotify event, serial 36, synthetic NO, window 0x4e00001,
        atom 0x1f0 (_NET_WM_ICON_GEOMETRY), time 1093969, state PropertyNewValue
    
    
    EnterNotify event, serial 37, synthetic NO, window 0x4e00001,
        root 0x14a, subw 0x0, time 1094873, (152,12), root:(152,681),
        mode NotifyNormal, detail NotifyNonlinear, same_screen YES,
        focus YES, state 0
    
    
    KeymapNotify event, serial 37, synthetic NO, window 0x0,
        keys:  68  0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0    
               0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0    
    
    
    MotionNotify event, serial 37, synthetic NO, window 0x4e00001,
        root 0x14a, subw 0x0, time 1094874, (152,12), root:(152,681),
        state 0x0, is_hint 0, same_screen YES
    
    
    MotionNotify event, serial 37, synthetic NO, window 0x4e00001,
        root 0x14a, subw 0x0, time 1094884, (84,32), root:(84,701),
        state 0x0, is_hint 0, same_screen YES
    
    
    LeaveNotify event, serial 37, synthetic NO, window 0x4e00001,
        root 0x14a, subw 0x0, time 1094898, (27,50), root:(27,719),
        mode NotifyNormal, detail NotifyInferior, same_screen YES,
        focus YES, state 0
    
    
    MotionNotify event, serial 37, synthetic NO, window 0x4e00001,
        root 0x14a, subw 0x4e00002, time 1094898, (27,50), root:(27,719),
        state 0x0, is_hint 0, same_screen YES
    
    
    EnterNotify event, serial 37, synthetic NO, window 0x4e00001,
        root 0x14a, subw 0x0, time 1094910, (0,65), root:(0,734),
        mode NotifyNormal, detail NotifyInferior, same_screen YES,
        focus YES, state 0
    
    
    KeymapNotify event, serial 37, synthetic NO, window 0x0,
        keys:  74  0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0    
               0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0    
    
    
    LeaveNotify event, serial 37, synthetic NO, window 0x4e00001,
        root 0x14a, subw 0x0, time 1097749, (131,-4), root:(131,665),
        mode NotifyNormal, detail NotifyAncestor, same_screen YES,
        focus YES, state 0
    
    
    KeyPress event, serial 37, synthetic NO, window 0x4e00001,
        root 0x14a, subw 0x0, time 1099592, (173,-13), root:(173,656),
        state 0x0, keycode 62 (keysym 0xffe2, Shift_R), same_screen YES,
        XLookupString gives 0 bytes:  
        XmbLookupString gives 0 bytes:  
        XFilterEvent returns: False
    
    
    KeyPress event, serial 40, synthetic NO, window 0x4e00001,
        root 0x14a, subw 0x0, time 1099653, (173,-13), root:(173,656),
        state 0x1, keycode 46 (keysym 0x4c, L), same_screen YES,
        XLookupString gives 1 bytes: (4c) "L"
        XmbLookupString gives 1 bytes: (4c) "L"
        XFilterEvent returns: False
    
    
    KeyRelease event, serial 40, synthetic NO, window 0x4e00001,
        root 0x14a, subw 0x0, time 1099748, (173,-13), root:(173,656),
        state 0x1, keycode 62 (keysym 0xffe2, Shift_R), same_screen YES,
        XLookupString gives 0 bytes:  
        XFilterEvent returns: False
    
    
    KeyRelease event, serial 40, synthetic NO, window 0x4e00001,
        root 0x14a, subw 0x0, time 1099778, (173,-13), root:(173,656),
        state 0x0, keycode 46 (keysym 0x6c, l), same_screen YES,
        XLookupString gives 1 bytes: (6c) "l"
        XFilterEvent returns: False
    
    
    KeyPress event, serial 40, synthetic NO, window 0x4e00001,
        root 0x14a, subw 0x0, time 1099803, (173,-13), root:(173,656),
        state 0x0, keycode 26 (keysym 0x65, e), same_screen YES,
        XLookupString gives 1 bytes: (65) "e"
        XmbLookupString gives 1 bytes: (65) "e"
        XFilterEvent returns: False
    
    
    KeyRelease event, serial 40, synthetic NO, window 0x4e00001,
        root 0x14a, subw 0x0, time 1099919, (173,-13), root:(173,656),
        state 0x0, keycode 26 (keysym 0x65, e), same_screen YES,
        XLookupString gives 1 bytes: (65) "e"
        XFilterEvent returns: False
    
    
    KeyPress event, serial 40, synthetic NO, window 0x4e00001,
        root 0x14a, subw 0x0, time 1101286, (173,-13), root:(173,656),
        state 0x0, keycode 62 (keysym 0xffe2, Shift_R), same_screen YES,
        XLookupString gives 0 bytes:  
        XmbLookupString gives 0 bytes:  
        XFilterEvent returns: False
    
    
    KeyPress event, serial 40, synthetic NO, window 0x4e00001,
        root 0x14a, subw 0x0, time 1101497, (173,-13), root:(173,656),
        state 0x1, keycode 43 (keysym 0x48, H), same_screen YES,
        XLookupString gives 1 bytes: (48) "H"
        XmbLookupString gives 1 bytes: (48) "H"
        XFilterEvent returns: False
    
    
    KeyRelease event, serial 40, synthetic NO, window 0x4e00001,
        root 0x14a, subw 0x0, time 1101607, (173,-13), root:(173,656),
        state 0x1, keycode 43 (keysym 0x48, H), same_screen YES,
        XLookupString gives 1 bytes: (48) "H"
        XFilterEvent returns: False
    
    
    KeyPress event, serial 40, synthetic NO, window 0x4e00001,
        root 0x14a, subw 0x0, time 1101839, (173,-13), root:(173,656),
        state 0x1, keycode 38 (keysym 0x41, A), same_screen YES,
        XLookupString gives 1 bytes: (41) "A"
        XmbLookupString gives 1 bytes: (41) "A"
        XFilterEvent returns: False
    
    
    KeyRelease event, serial 40, synthetic NO, window 0x4e00001,
        root 0x14a, subw 0x0, time 1101974, (173,-13), root:(173,656),
        state 0x1, keycode 38 (keysym 0x41, A), same_screen YES,
        XLookupString gives 1 bytes: (41) "A"
        XFilterEvent returns: False
    
    
    KeyPress event, serial 40, synthetic NO, window 0x4e00001,
        root 0x14a, subw 0x0, time 1102266, (173,-13), root:(173,656),
        state 0x1, keycode 46 (keysym 0x4c, L), same_screen YES,
        XLookupString gives 1 bytes: (4c) "L"
        XmbLookupString gives 1 bytes: (4c) "L"
        XFilterEvent returns: False
    
    
    KeyRelease event, serial 40, synthetic NO, window 0x4e00001,
        root 0x14a, subw 0x0, time 1102346, (173,-13), root:(173,656),
        state 0x1, keycode 46 (keysym 0x4c, L), same_screen YES,
        XLookupString gives 1 bytes: (4c) "L"
        XFilterEvent returns: False
    
    
    KeyPress event, serial 40, synthetic NO, window 0x4e00001,
        root 0x14a, subw 0x0, time 1102426, (173,-13), root:(173,656),
        state 0x1, keycode 46 (keysym 0x4c, L), same_screen YES,
        XLookupString gives 1 bytes: (4c) "L"
        XmbLookupString gives 1 bytes: (4c) "L"
        XFilterEvent returns: False
    
    
    KeyRelease event, serial 40, synthetic NO, window 0x4e00001,
        root 0x14a, subw 0x0, time 1102502, (173,-13), root:(173,656),
        state 0x1, keycode 46 (keysym 0x4c, L), same_screen YES,
        XLookupString gives 1 bytes: (4c) "L"
        XFilterEvent returns: False
    
    
    KeyPress event, serial 40, synthetic NO, window 0x4e00001,
        root 0x14a, subw 0x0, time 1102587, (173,-13), root:(173,656),
        state 0x1, keycode 32 (keysym 0x4f, O), same_screen YES,
        XLookupString gives 1 bytes: (4f) "O"
        XmbLookupString gives 1 bytes: (4f) "O"
        XFilterEvent returns: False
    
    
    KeyRelease event, serial 40, synthetic NO, window 0x4e00001,
        root 0x14a, subw 0x0, time 1102688, (173,-13), root:(173,656),
        state 0x1, keycode 32 (keysym 0x4f, O), same_screen YES,
        XLookupString gives 1 bytes: (4f) "O"
        XFilterEvent returns: False
    
    
    KeyRelease event, serial 40, synthetic NO, window 0x4e00001,
        root 0x14a, subw 0x0, time 1103949, (173,-13), root:(173,656),
        state 0x1, keycode 62 (keysym 0xffe2, Shift_R), same_screen YES,
        XLookupString gives 0 bytes:  
        XFilterEvent returns: False
    
    
    ClientMessage event, serial 40, synthetic YES, window 0x4e00001,
        message_type 0x159 (WM_PROTOCOLS), format 32, message 0x15a (WM_DELETE_WINDOW)
    Und ich wäre euch natürlich sehr dankbar, wenn ihr einem Anfänger einen Tipp geben könntet.
    Schönen Sonntag,
    Kumar

  2. #2

    Default Re: nur Lowercase in einigen Programmen

    Es wäre wohl klug gewesen zu erwähnen, dass ich KDE Plasma laufen habe und sich die Probleme deswegen auf X11 beziehen. Sorry für den Doppelpost.

  3. #3
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    Question Re: nur Lowercase in einigen Programmen

    Quote Originally Posted by Bruder_Kumar View Post
    seit heute habe ich das Problem, dass mein Bash, mein Libre-Office, meine Kate, mein Dolphin und das Testfeld für Tastaturlayouttests eine gedrückte Shift- oder Alt-Gr-Taste einfach ignorieren.
    Wie schaut es aus in „Systemeinstellungen” → „Hardware” → „Eingabegeräte” → „Tastatur” → „Belegungen” ?

    • „Belegungen einrichten” aktivieren.
    • „de Deutsch (ohne Akzenttasten)” Hinzufügen.
    • Selektieren und „Vorschau” drücken.

    Beim Reiter „Hardware”, ist die „Tastatur-Modell” korrekt?

    Beim „YaST” → „Hardware” → „System-Tastaturlayout”, ist „Deutsch” selektiert?
    • Vorausgesetzt dass, die KDE Einstellungen korrekt sind, im „YaST” das „Test” Feld sollte »Alt-Gr« Zeichen wie erwartet zeigen …
    • Ich weiß noch nicht ob, beim „YaST” in eine VT das Gleiche ist oder nicht – Ich wird es bald probieren und noch mal melden.

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    Default Re: nur Lowercase in einigen Programmen

    @Bruder_Kumar:

    Mit „yast2” mittels ein VT Sitzung (TT1 bis TTY6) probiert – »Alt-Gr« Zeichen, mit oder ohne „Umschalttaste”, haben wie erwartet funktioniert.
    • „System-Tastaturlayout” → „Deutsch”

  5. #5
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    Default Re: nur Lowercase in einigen Programmen

    Quote Originally Posted by Bruder_Kumar View Post
    Es wäre wohl klug gewesen zu erwähnen, dass ich KDE Plasma laufen habe und sich die Probleme deswegen auf X11 beziehen. Sorry für den Doppelpost.
    Ich habe eine ganz normale Tastatur:

    Code:
    erlangen:~ # localectl
       System Locale: LANG=de_DE.UTF-8
           VC Keymap: de-latin1-nodeadkeys
          X11 Layout: de
           X11 Model: pc105
         X11 Variant: nodeadkeys
         X11 Options: terminate:ctrl_alt_bksp
    erlangen:~ #
    AMD Athlon 4850e (2009), openSUSE 13.1, KDE 4, Intel i3-4130 (2014), i7-6700K (2016), i5-8250U (2018), openSUSE Tumbleweed, KDE Plasma 5

  6. #6
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    Default Re: nur Lowercase in einigen Programmen

    @Bruder_Kumar:

    Bei mir:
    Code:
     # localectl 
       System Locale: LANG=de_DE.UTF-8
           VC Keymap: de-nodeadkeys
          X11 Layout: de
           X11 Model: cymotionlinux
         X11 Variant: nodeadkeys
         X11 Options: terminate:ctrl_alt_bksp
     #
    „cymotionlinux” wie in „Cherry aus die Oberpfalz” …
    Datei ist „/etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/00-keyboard.conf” – mit „localectl” einstellen – Tastaturmodell (X11 Model) Liste ist hier: <https://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Sof...Compatibility/>.

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